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Reply #1641 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 1:06pm

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Well,  here is one for you.  We all know it is a Drone.  What is the model number, and what is its purpose ?
LWM
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Reply #1640 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm

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Hi ffadict!  Yeah, there is not much about the BMFW Stahleindecker Militärtyp steel-constructed monoplane.  I found just one more item ...
BMFW Stahleindecker Militärtyp.
Militäreindecker [Military monoplane] designed by Ing. Philipp Enders [System Enders] announced in Flugsport 1911 to be constructed by the Flug Technische Gesellschaft Nürnberg-Fürth E.V., yet in the same issue a drawing infers that it is to be constructed by the Nürnberger Motoren und Maschinenfabrik. In the end the steel-constructed machine was exposited in the Berlin ALA (Algemeinen Luftfahrt Ausstellung) 1912 as a finished machine of the Bayerische Motoren- und Flugzeugwerke Nürnberg.
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OH, I HAVE SLIPPED THE SURLY BONDS OF EARTH ... UP, UP THE LONG DELIRIOUS BURNING BLUE ... SUNWARD I'VE CLIMBED AND JOINED THE TUMBLING MIRTH OF SUN-SPLIT CLOUDS ...
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Reply #1639 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:59am

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That's it! Nice find! There isn't very much information on this airplane, this is about all I could find.

"This is the very rare two-seat Stahleindecker designed by Ing. Ph. Enders in 1911 and built by the Flugtechnische Gesellschaft Nürnberg-Fürth E.V. (F.G.N.F.). Characteristic were: the pilot and passenger were seated under the wing in a sort of gondola with a large windscreen, the pilot (in the back seat) had a steering wheel which came down from the wing above, and the long and narrow tail-boom.

The 1911 Stahleindecker was a development of a similar aircraft Enders had designed in 1910, that was based on the machines of Hans Grade, but then of all wood construction and without a windshield for the pilot and his passenger.

After the appearance in 1911 of this steel monoplane, which was duly noted in the contemporary press as a military type, nothing was heard from the machine nor F.G.N.F."
 
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Reply #1638 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 9:43pm

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BMFW Stahleindecker Militärtyp.
LWM
Richard
 

OH, I HAVE SLIPPED THE SURLY BONDS OF EARTH ... UP, UP THE LONG DELIRIOUS BURNING BLUE ... SUNWARD I'VE CLIMBED AND JOINED THE TUMBLING MIRTH OF SUN-SPLIT CLOUDS ...
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Reply #1637 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 12:56am

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ffadict...nice find on the Babcock-Vlchek X  it has baffled me!!! 
I found this other pic after your post!!!

Now to find your mystery plane!!!
It looks like some form of a Demoiselle!
Tom
 

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Reply #1636 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 7:41pm

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Thanks MKelly. Alright, the next stumper is here.
 
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Reply #1635 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 6:35pm

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Correct!  Babcock was a very interesting character - the Wikipedia writeup on him is worth a read.
 
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Reply #1634 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 6:29pm

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I finally found who it was. It was Vearne Clifton Babcock. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vearne_C._Babcock, he was the fifth person to fly. I believe the source picture came from http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/McBrideBill/9358.htm. The airplane was a Babcock-Vlcek X Airmaster. There is a lack of information on the subject because only one was made.
 
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Reply #1633 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 9:51pm

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Wrecked his self-made copy of the Wright 1905 flyer.  My reference just says he "was the xth person to fly", doesn't specify if that was just in the US.
 
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Reply #1632 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 9:20pm

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Glenn Curtiss crashed his Curtiss NO. 1 as seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_No._1
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Reply #1631 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 7:50pm

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? wrecked a copy of the Wright Flyer? or wrecked a copy of the Mystery plane?  And your other hint "one of the first ten people to fly"  - in the world or just the USA?
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Reply #1630 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 6:23pm

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Not a Cessna.  The designer first flew in an aircraft copied from the Wright Flyer.  Not exactly a master of the air, he wrecked it on takeoff.
 
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Reply #1629 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 5:07am

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Cessna  monoplane CR-2
LWM
Richard
 

OH, I HAVE SLIPPED THE SURLY BONDS OF EARTH ... UP, UP THE LONG DELIRIOUS BURNING BLUE ... SUNWARD I'VE CLIMBED AND JOINED THE TUMBLING MIRTH OF SUN-SPLIT CLOUDS ...
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Reply #1628 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 3:01am

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That thing has Cessna written all over it.
 

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Reply #1627 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 2:06am

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The tail looks like the Curtiss-Wright C-21 Demon, but I haven't been able to locate anything remotely like that aircraft from your hint from Curtiss. The first 10 flyers of heavier than air planes who were americans were: the Wright brothers and Curtiss.
ian
 
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