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Reply #61 - Dec 29th, 2018 at 2:05am

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The December O.F.F.C. contest is ROG Unlimited.  The CD is listed as Ed Slobod (FBTG).  The FBTG stands from From Beyond The Grave since the contest is a memorial to Ed.  The contest is for any rubber powered model airplane that will ROG.  It was held on Boxing Day this year and was attended and due to timing and circumstances attracted five entries.
 
Bill Watson flew a model that he designed just for the contest.  It was a small ROG with film covered wings and a rolled tube motor stick.  His best two out of five flight score was 341.4 seconds!  That’s 5 minutes and 69 seconds in the Stonehurst gym with the air conditioner/heater running.  His best flight was a little over 4 minutes.

Joe Whiting came In second at 107.2 seconds flying an Embryo.  I was third at 80.2 seconds flying an old Minnow with patched tissue and wings that had so many breaks that half the weight of the airframe was glue.  Don Smith had an equally old Minnow.  I had to leave early so I don’t know the significance of the notation on the timing sheet “STOMPED ON PLANE” in the third flight column in Don’s row.  Winn Hammer got in some flights but could not get the model to ROG.

At this writing I have not received any photos from the contest.

The members have decided the schedule for 2019:
Month            Model                        CD
January 30              Minnow                          Will Woods
February 27      Bostonian                          Hugh Langhans
March 27              Delta Dart (Build on Site)      Dave Gee
April 24            Catapult Glider                  Howard Littman
May 29            Legal Eagle                   Bud Matthews
June 12            Outdoor Spot/Time            Dave Gee
June 26            A-6                               Jim Lueken
July 31            Dime Scale                          Joe Whiting
August 28              Phantom Flash                  Don Martin
September 25      One Design                  Dave Gee and Bill Watson
October 30              No Cal                        Don Butman
November 27      P-18                         Barry Dougherty
December 18      R.O.G. Unlimited                    Ed Slobod (FBTG)

Don Martin has retired from the presidency of the group and Bill Watson has assumed the office.
 

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Reply #60 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 3:23pm

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Time to catch up with the year.  When we last left our intrepid fliers they were getting ready for the No-Cal Scale contest at the end of November.  The usual location, Stonehurst Rec Center gym, was available.  After the one hour meeting the contest commenced.

Firstly, the designated CD was not present.  Kurt Young, who did not bring a model, "volunteered" to be the CD, record keeper and timer.  The contest, for some reason (Remember, we're a bunch of old guys, @#%^ happens!), was not as well attended as one expects for a No-Cal contest with only five members bringing models. Some brought more than one, but the CD decided only the best flying model counted for scoring.

The only new models were the Zero by Bill Watson and the Heinkel 119 by Dave Gee.  Bill also brought a Fike which is usually a "sure thing" at a No-Cal contest.  The Heinkel, by proportion and layout, and at just over 5 grams, looked like a sure thing but proved almost impossible to trim.  Jim Leuken brought a Bucker Jungmeister being proxy flown for Dave Saks.  Jim Leuken's gentle flying Bleriot pusher (A model of the first airplane Bleriot actually got to fly, although the No-Cal model can stay in the air longer than the real airplane.) has been at previous contests and Don Butman's PZL (Actually, he, being a bit OCD, brought two of them.) is an extremely reliable flier.  I was going to bring my new F2A to fly and trim for the upcoming Pearl Harbor contest, but since I had not built it yet I patched up my much trashed, old P-36/Hawk 75 with Scotch Tape and tissue and flew it.

The results were:

1.  Bill Watson          Zero    191.4
2.  Jim Leuken          Bleriot 154.8
3.  Don Butman        PZL      133.2
4.  Howard Littman   P-36       71.6
5.  Dave Saks           Bucker    69.7
6.  Dave Gee            Heinkel   14.1

The December contest is, as usual, the Ed Slobad Memorial R.O.G. Unlimited contest for any rubber powered model that will R.O.G.  This can be very interesting since the Penny Planes with landing gear don't always win.



 
 

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Reply #59 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 11:40pm

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OK, I did compete in the Unlimited Scale contest on September 26th, but did so badly that I was embarrassed to post about it.  For continuity's sake I may as well get it over with.

The contest was, indeed, held outdoors at Stonehurst.  It really was a beautiful morning, clear, and only a slight breeze.  The wind held off until 11:00 AM.  Eight people flew but there were 13 models.  Amazingly enough, Bill Watson brought only one entry.  Dave Gee brought a Dumas T-34 and a Clipped Wing Monocoupe.  Barry Dougherty brought a Piper Cub as did Bill Watson and Don Butman who brought two and a peanut Pilatus Porter.  Don Smith had a Comet Porterfield.  Don Martin showed up with a Guillow's Cessna 180 and Hugh Lnaghans ahd an Aeronca Champ.  I had nothing new to fly my SE5 being framed but uncovered (I did start the covering at the AMA EXPO but that's a post of another thread.) so I took a couple of my Beaver prototypes and a Pilatus Porter prototype down from the ceiling and put fresh rubber in them.

The strange thing was that with all the experience there and good weather everyone was having trouble getting anything to fly.  It was nearly the end of the session when models started flying.  Scale judging was a Mooney linup

The results were:


    1. Dave Gee                Monocoupe                                 101.2 seconds  (includesl 16 scale points)
    2.  Don Smith              Porterfield                                   96.1 seconds  (10 points)
    3.  Bill Watson             Piper Cub                                    62.0 seconds  (14 points)
    4.  Don Butman            Pilatus Porter                               59.7 seconds   (6 points)
    5.  Barry Daugherty      Piper Cub                                    46.8 seconds   (15 points)
    6.  Don Martin             Cessna 180                                  46.1 seconds   (12 points)
    7.  Howard Littman       Beaver (U-6B)                              38.7 seconds   (8 points)
    8. Hugh Langhans        Aeronca                                      36.8 seconds   (4 points)




My Porter and one of my Beavers ended up cartwheeling in and tearing their wings off.  Should have left them on the ceiling. Six years ago, when they were built, I could get a minute out of them.  Oh, Well!

I did not go to the Mini-Stick contest on October 31.  It was Halloween and I had to put up the decorations before the Trick-or-Treating started.  No one gave me any pictures or any times.
  The results were:


    [li]1. Bill Watson
    2. Bill Watson  (With so few entries the CD decided to let both of his count.)
    3. Jim Leuken
    4.Bud Matthews
    5.Don Butman
    [/li]


The next contest, No-Cal Scale, will be on November 28.  With the Pearl Harbor No-Cal contest coming up on December 7 I expect that there will be many Pearl Harbor models at this contest.
 

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Reply #58 - Sep 24th, 2018 at 5:21pm

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Per Don Martin, President, and Bill Watson, CD,

The Unlimited Scale Contest will be held Wednesday, Sept. 26, 9:00 AM, outdoors, at Stonehurst.

Don called the park staff and they will turn the sprinklers off Tuesday and Wednesday morning so that the field will be dry for us.

Don't be too enthusiastic about what you bring to fly...its outdoors, but the field is a bit smaller than the Grassy Knoll.

KF
 

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Reply #57 - Sep 21st, 2018 at 11:54am

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We did not have an  O.F.F.C. meeting this week.  Don, our president, could not contact any of the three venues we have on the phone to confirm availability.  We are still searching for a venue for next week's Unlimited Scale contest.  Panorama is unsuitable being the smallest venue we fly in since some of the indoor scale ships have 30 inch wing spans and do not turn that tight, and it has a really fierce air conditioning system that we cannot shut off for the contest.  The floor replacement at Stonehurst is progressing slower than predicted and painting the markings on the new floor may still be in progress next week.  We have not yet heard if Branford will be available.  We have approached the CD, Bill Watson, with the possibility of having the contest outdoors at Stonehurst or postponing it again.  Will post the decision by Tuesday.
 

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Reply #56 - Sep 11th, 2018 at 2:04pm

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It appears that we will be in the Panorama City Park location for the next few weeks.  The floor renovations at Stonehurst and Branford are going slowly.  This is not good for the upcoming Unlimited Scale event since the Panorama venue is minimal size.  At tomorrows meeting we will discuss the possibility of making it an outdoor event at Stonehurst.

Two weeks ago, we had a discussion about the Black Sheep Squadron having a rubber powered dirigible at the AMA EXPO in November.  During the following week Bill Watson built one and brought it for testing at the O.F.F.C. meeting.   (See photos)

Howard
 

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Reply #55 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 10:12pm

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For the month of August the O.F.F.C. was a club in search of a venue. We were chased from the Stonehurst Rec Center because the gym floor was being replaced. The first two meetings were held outdoors, under the trees, on the Stonehurst field. This did not provide an environment for trimming an A6. Thanks to the efforts of Don Martin and Kathy Mader from the Seniors Programs at the Parks Department we were able to hold the next two meetings at the Branford Park gym. Then we were barred from there because that gym floor was being refinished. So, effort was made again and we held the A6 contest at the Panorama Park rec center, probably the smallest venue we have held a contest.

The results were:
1. Bill Watson     272 seconds
2. Pete Basone   206.8
3. Jim Leuken     182.5
4. Don Butman   148.3
Howard Littman was the CD and along with Kurt Young and John Buntin did the timing.

The next meeting will be on September 5th and, as far as we know, will be at the Panorama Park rec center, 8600 Hazeltine Ave, Panorama City.
 

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Reply #54 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:47pm

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We met at the Branford Park gym this morning.  No meeting room, as we have at Stonehurst, but the gym, as a flying venue is better.  The air conditioning is gentle and, although it has an open truss roof, the bottoms of the roof trusses are noticeably higher than the ceiling at Stonehurst.  If a model gets stuck in the roof trusses we can retrieve it with a pole whereas if it goes into one of the "black holes" in the Stonehurst ceiling it gone until something up there needs maintenance.

Unfortunately, there was a notice on the gym door informing us that the gym will be closed for two weeks starting on the 27th to refinish the floor!  We're still looking for a venue for the A6 contest on the 29th.

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Reply #53 - Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:19pm

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We had another outdoor meeting today.  It was too breezy to fly anything not radio controlled so while we sat under the trees and had the meeting we were entertained by Ira Ratner with two RC foamies a T-28 and a Cessna and by Bill Watson with his Jetstream glider.  He is a master at Hy-start launches.

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Reply #52 - Aug 1st, 2018 at 6:48pm

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We thought that we were going to be out of the Stonehurst gym for the month of August while the floor was being refinished.  Didn't make sense that the floor needed refinishing let alone that it would take a month to refinish the floor, but OK.  We looked for another temporary venue and were offered the gym at Branford Park, 13306 Branford St., Arleta, CA 91331, for our meetings August 15 and 22.  We decided to meet today and next week, August 08, under the trees on the Stonehurst field and have an outdoor session.   We don't know yet where the August 29 A6 contest will be held which particularly bothered me since I am the CD for that event.  I will make a post when that is decided.

When we got to Stonehurst this morning it became obvious why the "refinishing" of the floor would take a month.  They are not refinishing the floor, they are replacing it with an entire new flooring system.  The meeting went well this morning. We brought our camp chairs and a couple of camp tables and had our meeting in the shade of the trees and walked out into the open field to launch outdoor models.  It was a little breezy but we had no flyaways and only one model, a cat glider, had to be poled out of a tree. 

More later,

KF
 

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Reply #51 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 4:10pm

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July 25th was the O.F.F.C. Dime Scale Contest, or as the CD, Joe Whiting says, 9 Cent Scale, due to the relaxed rules.  In this case, it was judging only for extra points, 5 points for low wing, 10 points for biplane, and an extra 10 points for ROG. The contest was for best single flight of unlimited tries,  The model had to have a maximum 16” wing span, be made of only 1/16” stock and be a “recognizable scale” model of an aircraft that flew before 1945.  Reproduction dime scale models with additional plastic parts were allowed, (“Sure, if they don’t mind the extra weight, let them fly.” Joe)

Only five members had models ready for the event.  That was partially because we were not sure it was going to happen since the refinishing of the gym floor was supposed to commence on the 25th. Even with only five entrants there were nine models flown.  The outside temperature was 110°(F) so the air conditioning was on full in the room. The turbulent air made for some interesting flights and despite the small number of contestants it was fun to watch.

Results:  (Only best flying models of multiple entries counted.)

1,   Joe Whiting      Howard DGA           56.7
2.   Bill Watson       Wiley Post Biplane   50.3
3.   Don Butman     Farman Moustique   40.0
4.   Don Smith        Rearwin Speedster  17.4
5.   John Buntin      J-3 Cub                  12.3

Will Woods recorded times.  Kurt Young and Howard Littman did the timing.
 

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Reply #50 - Jun 30th, 2018 at 9:11pm

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Great stuff, thanks for sharing this with us.  I see in the last picture that plane eating fences as well as plane eating trees are prevalent no matter where you fly!! Grin Wink
Thanks again Howard!
Tom
 

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Reply #49 - Jun 30th, 2018 at 8:15pm

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June was the two contest month for the O.F.F.C., Spot Landing/Predicted Time and Penny Plane.

Spot Landing/Predicted Time is the only outdoor contest in the O.F.F.C. schedule.  There was an interesting selection of models flown from Guillow's slip-togethers to scratch built models done just for the competition. I put a new motor stick on my Crash Box Special but didn't get a chance to test it before the contest day. I arrived late after dropping my grandson off at Cooking Camp (He didn't want to go to Science Camp this year.) and the wind was up.  The best I could do was 5th in both Spot Landing (49 feet on a 50 foot max) and 2 seconds off my predicted time.  This year you didn't just call out your time at launch, you had to write your time on the tally board before you took your model out to the field for an attempt.  Five attempts were allowed.

I've attached the pages on the contests from the July Black Sheep Newsletter for photos and details.  There is a picture of my model riding a thermal at the outdoor contest, I got it a bit too high going for a 36 second time.  The end of that flight is shown by the photo I posted.
 

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Reply #48 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 5:12pm

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Great stuff...thanks for sharing!
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Reply #47 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 5:08pm

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And, a few more pictures from the P-18 Contest.

The timing table with Kurt Young timing, Barry Dougherty (CD) recording, and Bud Matthews kibitzing.

Pete Basone's little corner of the gym getting his model ready.

Jim Leuken assisting Bill Watson winding his model.
 

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