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Reply #4 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 7:31pm

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AK - here is a link to Brad's Sorceress - 1972 Reno Biplane racer - he did a fantastic job on his whole model using silver tissue
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1487013873/75
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Reply #3 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 6:49pm

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I have used Easybuilt's silver tissue.  I like it and apply it similar to the Esaki.  It is a bit more porous than Esaki so can be spritzed on the shinny side, but like Esaki it take more time to penetrate.

My F-86 was covered using Easybuilt tissue. Click Here
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Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 6:00pm

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Sky9pilot wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
Esaki Silver/Aluminum is a bird of another feather.  Apparently the silver finish is applied to the tissue and thereby reducing the ability of the tissue to shrink as the color tinted tissue. 

I've found that applying it wet (by wetting the back side) of the tissue and pulling the wrinkles out as best I can before it dries has worked best for me.  It is reluctant to go around compound curves and takes much more patience and re-wetting and additional gluestick for application. Sometimes I've had to resort to small strips for the application.  It does seem to be a bit tougher and more resilient to hanger rash!!!

Another solution to achieving  the aluminum/silver finish is to use black tissue with a light coat of Krylon Silver paint or many use the Design Master Floral Spray like you find at Michael's in silver. 
Tom


Yep, Tom, that pretty well describes my observation when I tried my test strip. Being somewhat clueless, I applied the tissue shiny side up and then tried to shrink that with my water/alcohol spray. Needless to say, that didn't work!!

Eventually, I managed to get the strip pretty much wrinkle-free, but way too much effort for something that was a two-dimensional framework (like a stabilizer would be).

I see where EZBuilt offers a silver tissue. Any experience with that?
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:42pm

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Esaki Silver/Aluminum is a bird of another feather.  Apparently the silver finish is applied to the tissue and thereby reducing the ability of the tissue to shrink as the color tinted tissue. 

I've found that applying it wet (by wetting the back side) of the tissue and pulling the wrinkles out as best I can before it dries has worked best for me.  It is reluctant to go around compound curves and takes much more patience and re-wetting and additional gluestick for application. Sometimes I've had to resort to small strips for the application.  It does seem to be a bit tougher and more resilient to hanger rash!!!

Another solution to achieving  the aluminum/silver finish is to use black tissue with a light coat of Krylon Silver paint or many use the Design Master Floral Spray like you find at Michael's in silver. 
Tom
 

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Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:51pm

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I did a test run with this tissue and immediately saw that it has characteristics different from other esaki colors. I searched here but didn't find much, on the HPA forum, however, there is a fairly wide ranging discussion.

Has anyone had success with this and if so, what worked for you?
 
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