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Frogflight Piper Pacer (16") first "flight" (Read 282 times)
Reply #7 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:30pm

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Spliffsecond wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
... If with what you see, you have any tips for me, let me know.
I am convinced that with some trimming, she might fly 1 minute and more

Until then ...

grt free

Maybe adding a little down thrust would help prevent stalls during the initial power burst as you increase turns on the motor. 

Terry
 
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Reply #6 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 2:07pm

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Went out today, the wind was calm at 8 km per hour.

They have plowed my flying field  Angry

So I had to go to a smaller field.

Some in flight foto's

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I have 3 videos of flights and they get better and better.

First flight is 500 turns on a 12" loop of 3/16" F.A.I. Tan Flight Rubber.

https://youtu.be/QSateTX-W88

second flight is 600 turns with less downtrust and a little up elevator.

https://youtu.be/amMiDeX0NZE

tirth flight is 700 turns, but the weather changed rapidly and the wind picked up violently. You see her struggeling. I can only imagine what this flight would have been 10 minutes before with no wind.

https://youtu.be/qgBrYBMngKA

But tomorrow the predict a good day with very little wind.

If with what you see, you have any tips for me, let me know.
I am convinced that with some trimming, she might fly 1 minute and more

Until then ...

grt free
 
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Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2018 at 7:07am

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It's really true, tall grass really does exist. I like it when these simple planes work so well and yours is no exception. Looking forward to more flights.
NB
Mike
 

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Reply #4 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:50pm

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Spliffsecond, great photos of a beautiful flight.

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Reply #3 - Apr 1st, 2018 at 12:53pm

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So second time,

the candidates for flight

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the field

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the flying

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The piper behaved much better than last time, still not perfect and a little bit all over the place (no two flights with the same pattern)
After a few flights with 300 turns I broke the nose mount (again)
so back to the repairstation.

I have a video, but it's not the best flight.

https://youtu.be/RISYTJwYryQ

and I also managed to break the wing on the okha.
So all in all not a bad day  Grin

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Untill next time
grt free
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2018 at 10:51am

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No need to thank me, it’s my pleasure.
I wil try to have better footage next time.

Thank you richard for the advise to purchase a flying kit.
But I think I already have all that I need.
I have a laser cut cloud tramp, should be a great flyer and not to much construction.
I also invested in some wood and raided the website for plans, so
I am cutting wood for a chilton DW 16” by clive Gamble and will try to make it really traditional only wood and real dope on tissue, no paint.
I wil also make another printwood kit this time from kielkraft P51,
I know that wwII fighters are not easy flyers but I kind of like the desing simplicity of the kit.
I also like the catapult launched gliders so I printed the plans to an
Fling-Hi G-12 wich seems a nice follow up to the ohka, and seems a good flyer.
Many other ideas in my head ( wakefield, rc conversion, ....) but I have to remind myself baby steps.
So, I do appreciate your advice and would follow it but I already chose another path.
I will however not trow the Se5a in oblivion, but she will fly eventually, when I got enough experience.
I will not give up if I don’t succeed at first, I ‘m rather stubborn.
Thanks again.
Untill next time.
Grtz free
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 4:00pm

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Hi Free - thanks for the videos - nice to see someone go out and actually try to fly.  Smiley Smiley  You are much more than ready for a
REAL
flyer.  Please don't wreck your nice  SE5a  right away.  I would suggest building a laser cut kit (no die crushed balsa kits and no printwood kits),  that is
guaranteed
to fly right off your building board and right off the table.  That is Sig Mfg. ( who were the first to laser cut kits by the way).  And they have kits for sale from dealers in Austria Germany Denmark and Switzerland.  I am talking about the  22"  wingspan Sig
"Cabinaire"
.  They guarantee that they will fly for 10 to 25 seconds by finger winding, and fly for 20 - 50 seconds by stretch winding the rubber motor in a winding stooge.  I have had many, many happy flights with mine, my longest flight of  57  seconds.   Here is the link https://sigmfg.com/  And click on Aircraft, then Sig free flight kits.  Good luck on your next flying session!   Cheesy
 

OH, I HAVE SLIPPED THE SURLY BONDS OF EARTH ... UP, UP THE LONG DELIRIOUS BURNING BLUE ... SUNWARD I'VE CLIMBED AND JOINED THE TUMBLING MIRTH OF SUN-SPLIT CLOUDS ...
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Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:14pm

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Good evening gentleman,

Instead of working on the Se5a this afternoon, I went out with the piper and the ohka. Perfect first day of springtime, very gentle breeze and sunny albeit cold.

Since I did not make a stooge yet I had to improvise,

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it works a charm altough I would not reccomend it with more elaborate planes.

The piper flew right away, but now I need to learn how to trim an aeroplane. I did not try and change anything for today I just wanted to see what she was dooing.
After a few "flights" the wingsupport struds broke and I need to make the motor mount more sturdy. But in general I am very happy.
I had to stop trying because she took a bath in the only ditch in the field

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Almost ok flight, I think she needs a bit of up elevator

https://youtu.be/PeNVEg7DdKU

And the reason you should not try to launch a model and film at the same time. I launched her into a stall, but she really wants to fly.

https://youtu.be/H472X11Gjxc



After that it was time for the ohka,
She still went into a loop with power launches and lost the moving portions of the rudder and stabiliser. But even then she glides nicely when hand launched.

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I was about to give up on her, blame it on the novice builder  Smiley
But then I remembered that I am a lefty and meaby if I launched righthanded it would work?

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Yes, that was all that was needed, change of hand  Cool
Now she needs trimming, but thats for next time because after a few try's I lost the left stab  Shocked and she still flew after that  Cool

https://youtu.be/KKmz_UnBv14

so I went home a happy man and can't wait to get back out there and go for better results.

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Grts free


 
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