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Reply #20 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:55pm

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If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Reply #19 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 1:56pm

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Thanks for all the comments guys, that was nice.

Just for the record, I am not a pro here, I am just a shoot from the hip kind of modeler. I've done plenty of my genius ideas, all to find out, I guess that's why they don't do that. And, I am not trying to jump ahead on Als build, this was something that just ended up on the back burner. I still have Als memorial build design on the back burner, with plans started for it.

My next step for the plans is to do a parts takeoff. I will repost the plans after I do that. Then after that, build the plane. Then find the CG, and find where the control horn should go. Then revise the plans again, to update what I learn. As far as anyone wanting to build from them, enjoy. I have the ability to print the plans full scale. So, if anyone is interested, let me know. Or you can tile them with Adobe Acrobat, and print yourself.

As far as the rudder offset, I am not seeing any on any of the pictures I previously attached. Yes, I am familiar with it on control line. And I found, run like heck, when the lines go slack. Hopefully, you get control back before you hear the crunch. At this time, I have no intention of doing any offset. Time will tell if this is right or wrong. All the other tethers I did, have zero offset. Tom is right, the other design you can just swing the pole behind you, and you don't have to constantly turn with the airplane.

I am also unsure about the handle setup. The independent handle, as in the pictures, you would be able to pull back on the lines to compensate. I have also seen a design with a lever attached to the pole. And, what is going to keep these lines from being all twisted. Time is going to tell for all of this.

I am just doing this for the fun of it. If it succeeds, great. If not, oh well.
 
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Reply #18 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:18pm

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Ian,
I learned that a while back in my youngster days. They get squirmy if them lines are not tight.... Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm

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Dave,
I am a fan of the Corsair to Smiley
Would pursue building that once you completed the plans. If you don't mind me building one also.
Thank you,
Paul
 
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Reply #16 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:14pm

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Ian's got a good point...
The whip style with u-control is a step above what Al did but lots of fun to be had.  With Al's single line set up you didn't have to turn in a circle and get dizzy.  You could just swing the plane around the pole as you held it up. 

Dave, looks like a fun plan.  Your link on the swing site, I believe that's were it was, shows these u-control whip gliders very well.  Reminds me of the u-control profile planes we flew back then... first with the cox .049-.051's and then up to my Fox 35...one of my favorite engines.  But you could get pretty dizzy flying them.  Got to the wingover and was able to fly inverted but not well.  I look forward to this...coming together.
Tom
 

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Reply #15 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:40am

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  If you are not familiar with control-line, don't forget to build in ample rudder offset to keep those lines nice and tight.
ian
 
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Reply #14 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:10am

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This plan is still a work in progress. But this is where I am at.
 

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Reply #13 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:57am

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shipwreck wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:06am:
Is there plans for the Jim Walker whip planes floating around. I have been looking but came up short.
Paul


Paul,
I have made the decision to take the step into the world of whip flying with elevator control. I am in the process of making plans for the Corsair. And am going to pursue its build. I downloaded a 3 view from The-blueprints.com, and scaled it to a size I want, enlarged the tail, like they usually do with control line scale jobs. If you are interested in a certain airplane, maybe I could help put together a set of plans for it for you?
Dave
 
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Reply #12 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:06am

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Any dates anyone throwing around for this? I have a old glider i found at my parents house i can use. Is there plans for the Jim Walker whip planes floating around. I have been looking but came up short.
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Reply #11 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 2:52pm

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In an idea to help keep things simple, this is a link I remembered that Al had over on Hippocket.
http://www.americanjuniorclassics.com/WhipPower/whipower.htm
Be sure to also look for page 2 if you go there. I have always been intending to move into the control horn idea for a little more added fun. But have not had the time. But I'm sure you could keep it simple, and just build slab style without the horn.
 
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Reply #10 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 2:27pm

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Sky9pilot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:09pm:
Thinking of trying to set a time we could all fly together wherever we are?  What do you think?


I think that's a fantastic idea.
 
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Reply #9 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:30pm

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I'm in Smiley
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Reply #8 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:09pm

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To honor Al...how about taking one of those models already built and rig her up for swing flying.  That's what I'm going to do!  Thinking of trying to set a time we could all fly together wherever we are?  What do you think?
Tom
 

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Reply #7 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 7:54pm

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I think I found my inspiration for my SIMPLEFLYER. I went right to the source. This is one of Als past posts.

http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1441342332/30
 

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Reply #6 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 7:01pm

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Something brought me to the S&T website tonight.  Life has had me so busy this past year, I can't remember the last time I have been on this site this year. I have been thinking how I miss my hobbies, and spent next to zero time flying this year. Something told me to go to the S&T website.

I am saddened about hearing about Al. Rest in peace my dear friend, you will be missed.

It is sad, how life gets a hold of us, and the next thing we know, years have passed.

It saddens me how many builds I have started in life, and how many still sit awaiting my return. Because I have more important things to do, HA.

Yes, I would very much so, like to be a part of this build. Before my time is gone. And I'm going to make a decal, and name my airplane, SIMPLEFLYER.

Rest in peace my dear friend, you will be missed.
 
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