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Message started by Tom Akery on Jul 6th, 2012 at 1:12pm

Title: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 6th, 2012 at 1:12pm
Hi ya'll,

Found this pic and thought that I'd see if any of you can identify it...

This is back to the origins of this thread. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:40pm
Beech 34 Twin Quad.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 6th, 2012 at 3:52pm
Well done Tim... "exact-a-mundo" [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

If you'd like a bit more info check out this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Model_34

Tim...Have you got one for us to identify?

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 6th, 2012 at 5:06pm
As luck would have it, I have a whole folder of mystery planes.  Thanks to a total lack of foresight I didn't put identifying filenames on any of them so here's the only one I remember right now...

-Tim
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 6th, 2012 at 8:36pm
The tail area makes me think of De Havilland  like the chipmunk but the radial engine and fix landing gear in spats is something else.

I'll keep looking...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Jul 6th, 2012 at 9:40pm
Even if you dont know what it is, thro it out there. Somebody will find it.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 7th, 2012 at 6:15pm
Tom, I never really noticed the very DH-like tail on my mystery plane but you're absolutely right, it does have that look.  Too bad it's not a DH product!

I'll at least let you know that while the pic I posted is a prototype, the airplane actually did go into full production.  I believe three or four survive today with only one of those examples in airworthy condition.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 8th, 2012 at 1:58am
Thanks Tim,

I'm still checking...I haven't given up yet..... :D :o ;)

Anyone else out there got any guesses???

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 10th, 2012 at 8:33pm
Alright, it was designed to be an intermediate trainer between the Tiger Moth and Harvard but instead was refitted with radio training gear.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Jul 10th, 2012 at 9:34pm
My days off are coming. I will dig around then.
What country is it?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 13th, 2012 at 1:45pm
It looks like possibly a Blackburn prototype for the Skua...similar lines....

Still haven't found anything definitive...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 16th, 2012 at 2:13pm
Alright, I'll go on to say it was designed and built in Canada.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 16th, 2012 at 3:19pm
Tim,

Your last hint did it for me.  I believe it's a RCAF Fleet Fort...built by the Canadians during WWII

Here's the pic I found.  The Fleet Fort Model 60K

This looks like a unique plane that I'd be tempted to try to scratch build.  Eliptical wings, big round fuse cross section and all.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 18th, 2012 at 1:42pm
You've obviously nailed it Tom.  I too want to build one, I just haven't figured out exactly how.  Might be a good first foam fuselage for me...

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 18th, 2012 at 3:31pm

Tim the Inspector wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 1:42pm:
You've obviously nailed it Tom.  I too want to build one, I just haven't figured out exactly how.  Might be a good first foam fuselage for me...

-Tim



You're reading my mind Tim...I was thinking of lost foam and reed former construction as in my Goose G-21 build.  Looks like a perfect candidate....

I love it...

Yesterday my computer crashed and I lost my mystery planes.  Had a lot of my stuff backed up but not the mystery planes....have you got another one? 

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 18th, 2012 at 4:43pm
I was thinking of doing a carved foam fuselage and stick and tissue flying surfaces. Actually, part of me wants to go right off the deep end and do a model of a half-restored Fort they have on display at the Canadian Warplane Heritage museum.

Probably not any time soon, though.

As for further mysteries, my computer is in the shop so you'll have to wait for any further contributions from me.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 18th, 2012 at 5:34pm

Tim the Inspector wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 4:43pm:
As for further mysteries, my computer is in the shop so you'll have to wait for any further contributions from me.

-Tim


Been having confuser challenges also...know the frustrations :P ::) >:(

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 18th, 2012 at 6:35pm
Alright, how about this portly biplane?


-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 18th, 2012 at 11:10pm
If I can find time to get to a scanner tomorrow morning before my flight out of town (going to Oshkosh!), I'll drop a big hint elsewhere on this site.  If not, the hint will come in a week or so when I get back.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Jul 19th, 2012 at 6:42am
Oshkosh!?! For the big gathering?
PLEASE takes a million pics!!!!!!!!

You are SO lucky!!!!!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 19th, 2012 at 11:48am
TK, that's exactly why I'm headed down to Oshkosh.  My dad and I have been talking about going there for the past twenty years and this year we're finally going to do it.  The camera is charged up, the memory stick cleared so there will definitely be pics.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Jul 19th, 2012 at 4:00pm
I envy you SO much!   


Quote:
My dad and I have been talking about going there for the past twenty years and this year we're finally going to do it.


[smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
If I could have a nickel for every cool adventure I put off till it was to late......   

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 21st, 2012 at 9:44pm
I believe the aircraft is a Thruxton Jackaroo... I think a few more were made as Rollason Jackaroos.

A modified De Havilland Tiger Moth made into a 4 place tourer.  A small batch was made from war surplus Moths following WWII.

This is my guess.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  check out this site: http://www.airteamimages.com/search.php?srch_keyword=Thruxton%20Jackaroo

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 4:51pm
;D
Wont fit 4 of me in there.....Not wide enough. ;D ::) ::) Probly exceed the payload. :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 11:17pm
[quote author=203B31393F3133273E372B520 link=1341598357/23#23 date=1343080280] ;D
Wont fit 4 of me in there.....Not wide enough. ;D ::) ::) Probly exceed the payload. :-[ :-[/quote]

I'm certain I would  max it out just by myself....I also don't think anyone would be able to sit next to me. 

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Jul 26th, 2012 at 8:27pm
Haha, she's not very roomy for sure but they did free up some space inside by staggering the seating.  The two seats on the right are set about six inches back from the two on the left to make more shoulder room without making the fuselage wider still.  As for weight, I've never heard of the one I'm involved with carrying more than three people at a time.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 1st, 2012 at 10:45pm
Anyone else have a mystery plane to post?

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 2nd, 2012 at 11:45pm
How about this one, Tim?  We took this photo at Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1967.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 3rd, 2012 at 8:03am
Whoa, that's an oddball.  Looks like somebody made a twin out of a Stinson Flying Station Wagon, but I don't think it's the factory built example (was developed by Piper into the Apache).

Am I close?

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by TJH on Aug 3rd, 2012 at 11:10am
I agree; looks a bit like a Piper Apache.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 4th, 2012 at 12:15am

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Looks like somebody made a twin out of a Stinson Flying Station Wagon, but I don't think it's the factory built....


Correct, Tim, and here's a sketch of where the wing and engines came from.  Only a few were built, could be a subject for another MP. 

The mystery plane was put together by some fellows in Tulsa and licensed and flown as an experimental, of which only one copy was built.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 4th, 2012 at 1:23am
I found pics of the plane that match the drawing but the twin tail setup put me off.  The original pic has a single tail setup....

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 7th, 2012 at 7:19pm
Anyone know what this one is?


-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 9th, 2012 at 12:00am
Shapley Kittiwake of the 1930's

http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/shapley_kittiwake.php

Neat little aircraft.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 9th, 2012 at 9:04pm
Wouldn't the Kittiwake look just great as a model?  I'm not entirely sure how I'd handle a lot of things to do with that wing but one of these is definitely on my to-do list.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 10th, 2012 at 1:12am
The wing could be built just like the F4U Corsair... only inverted to actual gull setup. Just reinforce the wing spars at the breaks.

I agree, she'd be a great model that has just that different look to make all the guys at the field ask, "What's that?"

She might make an outstanding bostonian...

When you get to her Tim...be sure to post the build here...

Thanks for a unique aircraft.
In the first picture I wonder what the color scheme is?

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 10th, 2012 at 7:29am
Tom, I suspect your first pic of the Kittiwake shows it in primer.  British planes of the period received a red oxide coloured paint on wood surfaces, I think I read somewhere it was a preservative or fungicide or something.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 10th, 2012 at 9:13am
Thanks Tim,

That fuselage is kinda Gee Bee like.  Big Round Barrel.  Would make an interesting model.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 14th, 2012 at 10:56pm
Since no one else is posting here, how about this one?


Could the answer really be as simple as it looks at first glance?

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 16th, 2012 at 3:57pm
Mosquito with Wright Cyclone or Wasp power instead of Merlins????

I'll do some research...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 16th, 2012 at 4:20pm
Could it be this bird from Argentina????

The I AE 24 Calquin....

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 17th, 2012 at 8:09pm
Tom obviously nailed it so who else has a plane to post?

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 18th, 2012 at 8:24am
OK  .... here's one can you name this plane?

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 18th, 2012 at 11:42pm
Tom I just...  I don't know.  My usual mystery plane process starts when I've either seen the picture before (I do nearly constant research be aide I like airplanes) or I recognize something about the airplane.  From there I do a quick bit of searching online to confirm it is what I think it is and post my answer.

Not so simple this time.

I've never seen that pic before and the airplane itself doesn't look enough like anything I remember to start searching.  Next I move on to my overall impression of the plane which seems mostly WACO-ish in proportions.  Yeah, unswept wings, big round engine on a smoothly tapering fuselage, the landing gear seems kind of close and that crude canopy could show it was built during one of the times they were on the edge of bankruptcy.  Must be some sort of WACO export fighter, I guess.  But wait...  The landing gear isn't quite right, the tail is off and the upper and lower wings are of unequal chord.  Looking closer it seems the trailing edge of the wing is scalloped, too.

Back to square one.  Alright, we have an exhaust collector ring at the front of the cowl and the prop turns counterclockwise so I bet the engine is British.  The general crudeness of construction and the scalloped trailing edges suggest this plane wasn't built by one of the countries that was influential in aircraft development.  I'm thinking somewhere in continental Europe but not France, Germany or Italy.  They couldn't have built too many types in that region so the search shouldn't take too long... I hope.

Either way, I'll get on it tomorrow.

This is a tough one, Tom.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 19th, 2012 at 6:26pm
Tim,

Love your logic and you're on the right track.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Aug 20th, 2012 at 10:38pm
Tim knows about planes.  :o :o :o
I never would have thought of half that stuff. I got as far as Waco-ish. :-[ :-/

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 21st, 2012 at 7:04pm
You're gonna have to go "Roaming" around to find this one.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 2:43am
Will we roam enough you could call it "Roam-mania?"

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 10:30am
Tim... on the right track!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 5:42pm
I'm pretty sure the latest mystery was built by IAR (but then again what Romanian plane wasn't?) but I can't find a model number for it.  I think you've won this round, Tom.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 6:45pm
Try Fabrica De Avione S.E.T. XV

Romanian....

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 8:33pm
Here's a new one...see if you know this one.

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 10:08pm
Thanks for putting me out of my misery Tom.  New one looks to be the Abrams Explorer.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 23rd, 2012 at 10:15am
Right on the money....Tim

Abrams Explorer P-1  one off, photography aircraft.  http://www.aerospacefacts.com/plane/aircraft.php?plane_id=138

enjoy...

Who's got the next plane?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 23rd, 2012 at 7:53pm
How about this?


-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 24th, 2012 at 9:42am
I believe it's the Ryan Fireball XFR-4 composite powered plane.  Radial up front and jet engine in the rear.

Mid page - http://aviationtrivia.blogspot.com/2010/11/ryan-fr-1-fireball-and-f2r-dark-shark.html

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 28th, 2012 at 5:42pm
What's this plane?


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:05am
Horten H XVa designed by Reimar Horten built in Argentina as the I AE 34 Clen Antu.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:28am
What about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 30th, 2012 at 8:57am
Great job Simpleflyer...you nailed it [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I'll have to do some research...on this next one!

From the looks of the tail and high wing/shoulder mount it looks like it's from Consolidated Aircraft.  Probably derived from the PV4 Privateer made for the Navy.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 30th, 2012 at 9:12am
I think this is it...
Consolidated Model 39 Liberator-Liner NX30039 in American Airlines
The Consolidated R2Y "Liberator Liner" (Consolidated Model 39) was an attempt at creating an airliner derivative of the B-24 airframe. Built for the US Navy by Consolidated Aircraft (soon to become Convair), the XR2Y-1, as the single prototype was known in Navy service, used the wings, engines, single vertical tail and landing gear of the PB4Y-2 Privateer, but The fuselage was an entirely new design.


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 30th, 2012 at 9:28am
Here's a new one for you...

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:26pm
You guys are blowing my mind!!!!!!!

That is SOOO cool!  This is better than Google.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:17pm

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Consolidated Model 39 Liberator-Liner NX30039 in American Airline

Correct.  Good research work, Tom.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:26pm
Your next posted airplane is the Lockheed R6V Constitution.  Only 2 were built and were the largest fixed wing aircraft operated by the US Navy.

Absolutely right.  Well done! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:34pm
Another mystery heavy lifter powered by round engines.  Also posted is a pic of the 28 cylinder round engine used by the Constitution and the mystery heavy lifter.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 30th, 2012 at 8:35pm
Great job Simpleflyer...

I believe the heavy lifter is the Convair Cargo version of their B-36,  I think it was called the XC-99 but will varify that.  What an engine... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  Six of them and the B-36 added 4 jets to all that to get into the air. 

Here's a link to some pics...of the Convair XC-99 troop carrier.   I believe only one was built.  The Jet age put an end to the wonderful big radial propliners.

What a job of plumbing going on there in that engine!!!!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 30th, 2012 at 10:44pm
IIRC one of the last-ditch efforts to sell the XC-99 was aimed at the US postal service.  The idea was that it was so big it could be used to actually sort the mail on its way across the country to deliver it!

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 31st, 2012 at 1:03am
Thanks Tim,

That's half the fun of this stuff...learning the background stuff.  People are so creative to make something work and make some money for the company.

I'd love to have seen some of these birds in person.  I do remember the Douglas C-124 and the C-133 flying out of Norton AFB in So. Cal.

Just something to hear the sound of those radial engines...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 31st, 2012 at 1:08am
Ok people .... here's a new one for you...

Do you know this aircraft?

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Aug 31st, 2012 at 8:01am
The last one is the Amercan Gyro Crusader.  Some day I WILL bring that one to life in dime scale, I even found copper coloured tissue for it.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 31st, 2012 at 10:24am
Tim,

You're correct and I want to know where you found the tissue.  I was thinking the same thing.  This would be a real fun project.

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 31st, 2012 at 10:48am
Here's another one....

Who knows this one? ...

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by TJH on Aug 31st, 2012 at 1:55pm
I really like that American Gyro Crusader ;)
Anyone want to guess at this one?





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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 31st, 2012 at 3:53pm
Tom, your mystery twin looks like the Convair NC-131H (TIFS)-Total In-Flight Simulator.  A very interesting variation of the C-131.  More about the aircraft at:
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=13367

You are correct SimpleFlyer... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:25pm
TJH, the little pusher is the Anderson Greenwood AG-14.  It was built at the Sam Houston Airport, now abandoned and buried under a Houston suburb about 30 miles from where we now live in Rosenberg.  When we moved to the Houston area in 1981 the airport and AG-14 were no longer here.  On of my co-workers (Claude Duncan) at Houston Executive Air Service remembers seeing the AG-14 when they were being built and flown here. 

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Bredehoft on Aug 31st, 2012 at 7:32pm
There was one of those at the 2000 FAC Nats



--george
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 31st, 2012 at 9:31pm
Great stuff George...

Are you aware of any plans available for this little gem?

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 1st, 2012 at 12:16am
A smaller one this time.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 1st, 2012 at 9:38am
The latest mystery is a (the?) Fletcher Defender.

Anyone who wants a plan for the A-G Crusader just hang on until tonight and let me see what I have.  I'm pretty sure I have at least one plan for it.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 1st, 2012 at 9:44am

Tim the Inspector wrote on Sep 1st, 2012 at 9:38am:
Anyone who wants a plan for the A-G Crusader just hang on until tonight and let me see what I have.  I'm pretty sure I have at least one plan for it.  -Tim


I'd be interested if you can find one.  It's just weird enought to be interesting.  Plus it's a twin. 

Tom

Here's an interesting link to the Fletcher Defender... http://www.aerospace.co.nz/aircraft/heritage-aircraft/fletcher-fu-25-defender

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 1st, 2012 at 10:16am
Well,

You guys are just too good at this.  I'm sure this one won't stump you, but here goes!

What's this plane?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 1st, 2012 at 8:34pm
It's a Barkley-Grow T8P.  There was something odd about those too, IIRC.  I think it was that they didn't have any ribs...  or spars...  or both.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 1st, 2012 at 8:37pm
Oh yeah, these exist too...

-Tim
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 1st, 2012 at 9:09pm
I thought the plans were complete but it seems I was wrong.  Either way it wouldn't be hard to fill in what's missing.  Whatever site I got them from also had a pic of the finished plane.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 1st, 2012 at 11:58pm
Outstanding Tim and right you are, it indeed was the Barkley Grow T8P...

Thanks for the plans... I'll look them over. 

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 9:30pm
Guess I'll put one up now...


-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:23am
Hi ya'll,

I believe this is the Bacon Super T-6F built not behind the Iron Curtain, but I believe in Santa Monica, CA...

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/MilitaryProp/NAAAT6-4.htm

Amazing what they do to existing airframes to change the role and meet other governmental requests for aircraft types.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by TJH on Sep 4th, 2012 at 6:43am
This is a great thread on here; a lot of rare birds!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 4th, 2012 at 5:40pm

TJH wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 6:43am:
This is a great thread on here; a lot of rare birds!

Everyone is welcome to join in.  What may be common to you could be obscure and unknown to the rest of us.

In the meantime, there's this:


-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 4th, 2012 at 8:59pm
As Tim said,

Please join in with your planes...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 5th, 2012 at 10:33am
Tim,

I don't think Santa would have enjoyed using this for his sleigh!!!  My understanding is the first two prototypes both crashed because of wing flap/flex.  I don't think it was faster than a "Speeding Bullet"!

Am I close with this?

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 5th, 2012 at 11:02am
I'd say you got it Tom.

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:17pm
That means it's the Christmas Bullet...

Very interesting character Mr. Christmas was.  Fun read. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

check it out http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/christmas_bullet.php

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:20pm
Who's got another mystery plane?

Come on and puzzle us!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:43pm
That Christmas Bullet would make a neat Bostonian, wouldn't it?

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:46pm
Luckily there's a never ending supply of neat airplanes.  Hopefully someone other than Tom or myself will try posting the next one.  Before that happens, give this a try:


-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tim the Inspector on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:56pm
Oh yeah, I also found the whole AG Crusader plan for those interested:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/download_this_plan.asp?ID=907

-Tim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 5th, 2012 at 10:40pm

Tim the Inspector wrote on Sep 5th, 2012 at 9:43pm:
That Christmas Bullet would make a neat Bostonian, wouldn't it?

-Tim


Tim, that's a great idea...I'll follow your build closely [smiley=thumbsup.gif] :o ;D :D ;) 8-)

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Sep 6th, 2012 at 2:06am


This one just showed up on its way to a museum.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 6th, 2012 at 9:04am
John, she's a beaut!!!

Didn't know Stinson built a parasol.  Love the Cowling and spats.  The giveaway is the Stinson logo on the tail.

I believe she's the replica Model O Stinson.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 6th, 2012 at 9:25am
Tim,

Very clever... I searched and searched.  All I could see that came close was the Folkerts SK-1... but the gear was too tiny.    Searched all the Golden Age Racers ... Ike, Pete were close but no cigar....

Finally found the Mono Special... which was later modified to the SK-1.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 12th, 2012 at 1:58pm
Here's what I found:

Folkerts Mono-Special [NR500W] (K O Eckland coll)

Mono-Special (Mono Aircraft Co, Moline) 1930 = 1pOmwM; 90hp Cirrus Mk II; span: 18'5" (?>24'0") length: 16'9" (?>19'0") load: 457# v: 160/150/55 range: 350. Built by Mono—but not as SK-1, as often thought—with a motor provided by Folkerts. POP: 1 racer for Cirrus Derby, withdrawn after a landing accident at Douglas AZ (p: Roy Quinby) [NR500W]. Competed in 1930 Nationals after repair (p: Quinby). Became SK-1.

http://www.aerofiles.com/_f.html

http://www.aerofiles.com/folkmonospl.jpg

Ok...Here's another one...
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RMFF on Sep 20th, 2012 at 6:44am
I know I don't post often, but I believe this one is a Breguet Provence.
RMFF

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 21st, 2012 at 12:02am
You are correct RMFF...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-France/Breguet-763-Provence/1230009/L/

Very interesting aircraft...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 21st, 2012 at 3:39pm
While we are waiting on someone else to post a mystery plane...here's one that should be very easy...

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 21st, 2012 at 10:51pm
Fairchild XC-120
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 21st, 2012 at 11:02pm
Here's a mystery plane.  IMHO, the prettiest version of the airplane from which it was derived.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Sep 22nd, 2012 at 1:28am
That's the civilian conversion of a Douglas A-26.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 22nd, 2012 at 11:21am

John Webster wrote on Sep 22nd, 2012 at 1:28am:
That's the civilian conversion of a Douglas A-26.


That's my guess also.  Very good looking bird.
I believe it was called the On Mark Marketeer

By the way the Fairchild Packet was the correct answer for the previous mystery plane...


Here's a neat video of a restored bird in military markings taking off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOdNkaQEco0

How about this derivative...the Marksman... http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Visschedijk/6712L.jpg
The cockpit modifications are from DC-6&7 cockpit windshields and side windows to allow full pressurization of the whole fuselage, along with metal top panels.  What a conversion....  Thanks Simpleflyer for this mystery bird.

Might make a great trimotor model...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 23rd, 2012 at 7:07pm
Here's a new plane for all you aviation wizards....

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 24th, 2012 at 11:19pm
The neat pusher canard is the AASI Jetcruzer 500.  The picture reminded me of the OMAC pusher, so I googled OMAC  to check if that was the mystery plane, and learned that it has evolved to this current version.

Thanks to those of you that made guesses on the plane that we posted.

John, you are correct that it is a modified A-26.

Tom, You were close with the OnMark Marketeer and thanks for the link to N256H picture.  N256H has an interesting story and we'll elaborate on it in a couple of posts.

The mystery A-26 is actually the L.B. Smith Tempo II.  Some info for it is in the attached scan.  More detailed info at:

http://napoleon130.tripod.com/id114.html

You will need to scroll down about 30 percent of the page, and be forewarned the page is loaded with images and  will take a bit of time to load depending on your connection.  Enjoy,

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 24th, 2012 at 11:52pm
Simpleflyer... absolutely correct - Jetcruzer 500 [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Very tricky with the Tempo II...  I thought the fuselage was quite modified... now I see it was completely new.  Well done!!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 25th, 2012 at 10:05pm
Who's got another Mystery Plane for us to guess?  Come on guys give it a shot!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 26th, 2012 at 6:07pm
We spotted this one at the airport in Lafayette, LA. in 1972.  The locals were using it to hunt alligator poachers when gators were an endangered species.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 26th, 2012 at 11:15pm
A view from the front.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 27th, 2012 at 12:05am
Great Plane Simpleflyer...

I believe it was built by Lockheed...for silent observation interdiction in Vietnam.  I saw one used by NASA at the Dryden Research Center...

Has to be the quietest plane I've ever seen....couldn't hear it on approach at all.  If we hadn't had a radio tuned to the tower we wouldn't even had seen it come in it was so quiet.

I think it was designated YO-3A...I think they made a couple other versions...time for some research...

Thanks for the great bird...

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 12th, 2012 at 2:18pm
Till someone else has a plane to offer....do you know what this one is?

Tom

Edited 11/4/2012:  With the switch to the new server a few pics have been lost.  So here's the last pic posted/reposted.

Tom



Edit 06/13/2013: For those who didn't find this aircraft it's a Northrop Grumman Firebird spy plane. Can be flown with or without a pilot onboard.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Chris on May 18th, 2013 at 3:05pm
Okay here is a Japanese airplane


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 18th, 2013 at 5:04pm
I think it might be a NAKAJIMA "TENRAI" 18-Shi INTERCEPTOR also known as an J5N1 .

That's my guess!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Chris on May 18th, 2013 at 11:20pm
good guess, but no.


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 19th, 2013 at 3:05am
I guess I keep guessing! LOL

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 19th, 2013 at 5:12pm
I think I found it.  Nice research project.  How about building it Chris?

Kawasaki Ki-96 I believe is the aircraft pictured. 

check out this link:  http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Kawasaki%20%20Ki%2096.htm

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Chris on May 19th, 2013 at 8:46pm
Correct, also you might have noticed that if you click the photo back tithe source link, it'll say ki-96. Whoops.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 19th, 2013 at 11:10pm
I didn't do that, but I was aware of that.  That's why on the pics I post, I save them and then rename them before posting so we really have to know the plane or do some research.  I enjoy the research, that's part of the challenge and fun for me.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 12th, 2013 at 11:50pm
Anyone else  out there got a mystery plane for us?

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by mitch j on Jun 13th, 2013 at 7:06pm
G'day all;

Here's one for you. You guys will probably know it straight away but i'd never seen one before.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:16pm
Mitch,

I have seen pics of this somewhere.  Can't remember the name just yet but looks like a Sikorsky heli cockpit on the front of this thing.  I'll do some research.  Thanks for sharing this.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:15pm
Check  page 4 post #51

Abrams P-1 Explorer

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by mitch j on Jun 14th, 2013 at 12:08am
G'day Tom;
Dosent surprise me one bit that you got it mate! I looked at the link in that post of yours - I am surprised at how small it is! Cool pics though!

Cheers!!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 14th, 2013 at 1:50am
Mitch,

It was a remarkable airplane.  The site said it was used right up to the beginning of WWII.  Also known as the Stratoplane, doing high altitude photography at around 43,000 ft.  Amazing stuff considering the time, especially for a one off, aircraft. 

Might make a very interesting model, anyone out there feel inspired?

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 3rd, 2013 at 10:49pm
It's been a while, but here's a new plane for someone to identify....

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 22nd, 2013 at 3:28am
That aircraft that Tom posted #131 is the Piaggio P 119, originally flew in 1942 and was to be evaluated by the Regia Aeronautica but the Italian armistice of 1943 put paid to that.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Nov 27th, 2013 at 1:19pm
Yep!!!

I was intrigued by the engine location and that it appears to be a radial engine at that!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 27th, 2013 at 9:32pm
Unusual in employing a buried power plant driving a tractor propellor via an extension shaft and unique among such aircraft in employing an air-cooled radial engine. The P.119 single seat fighter was conceived in 1938 by Giovanni Casiraghi as a private venture. Official interest was shown in March 1940, at which time it was proposed to power the prototype with a 1,500 hp Piaggio P.XV RC 45 18 cylinder 2 row radial repacing this in the series model with a 1,700 hp P.XV RC 60/2V.
Armament comprised a 20mm cannon firing through the propellor hub and four 12.7mm machine guns close-grouped in the fuselage nose. Of all metal construction with a monocoque fuselage , the P.119 was first flown on 19 December 1942, flight trials continuing up to 2 August 1943 when the prototype was to have been evaluated by the Regia Aeronautica,after which it was anticipated that series production would commence. However, the Armistice of 8 September 1943 resulted in the termination of development.
Max speed 400 mph at 22,300ft, Time to 10,000ft 3.25 min. Range 940 miles. Empty weight 5,374lb, loaded weight 9,020lb. Span 42'8", length 31 ft 10" , Height 9'6", Wing area 299.24 sq ft

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 28th, 2013 at 10:35pm
Here is a not too hard one to see who's paying attention, I even left the rego on to help people out.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by staubkorb on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:10am
POTEZ 75.  Developed around 1952-53 as a light ground support aircraft (tank buster).  I think only two were built, but touted as being highly responsive and easy to fly.   I didn't have to look this one up as I have it in my "might build" files (along with about 1000 others), but since I'm somewhat partial to twin-boom pushers, it was an easy one ;).

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Dec 27th, 2013 at 1:37am
This thread has been pretty slow so here is another oddity to identify
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RMFF on Dec 27th, 2013 at 7:24am
That one is a Bleriot 125.

RNFF

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 27th, 2013 at 3:30pm
Right On RMFF... hadn't seen this one before.  Quite an imagination from the French there.

Someone else have a mystery plane?
Here's one till someone comes up with another one....
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Dec 31st, 2013 at 4:23pm
Looks like the Short Sperrin. Designed as a back up should the RAF's V bombers have problems two were built.

Here one that is on my "must build" list (maybe later this year?)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 31st, 2013 at 6:54pm
Right on Kiwi...

That parasol wing is a very nice looking aircraft.  Have no idea what it is yet!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 31st, 2013 at 7:05pm
Ok...you've just added one more plane to the "To-Do" list....
I believe it's the PZL S-4 Kania
http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/la/s4/s4-1.gif

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 1st, 2014 at 6:18pm
Yep, that's it, the PZL S4 Kania
Aeromodeller published plans for a 26" rubber powered version in 1975 available here:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2548
and three view drawings were in Aeromodeller September 1971
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 29th, 2014 at 12:37am
Still struggling with access but seeing as how this thread is very quite again does someone want to have a go at this one where obviously the amount of dihedral must have been decided by a committee!
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jan 29th, 2014 at 11:49pm
I believe this is the Bonney Gull by Leonard Bonney.  Wings patterned after the sea gulls!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 30th, 2014 at 6:59pm
The idea was that as soon as the wheels touched the ground the wings would fold back along the fuselage so as it didn't need a landing run. I don't think he figured that a gull has almost zero airspeed when it lands! Well worth a google and read up on it.

Anyone else going to join me and Tom with lesser known aeronautical devices?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Feb 1st, 2014 at 10:54am
Ok! l am game let me dust out the cob webbs to see if l can even stay up with yall.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 7th, 2014 at 6:50pm
While we are waiting for Bob here is another to keep you going. The trim changes with power settings must have been interesting.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Feb 7th, 2014 at 7:25pm
It looks French is all l can think of for the moment.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Feb 8th, 2014 at 1:58am
I was thinking it looked Soviet.  But really have no clue yet.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 10th, 2014 at 10:53pm
Tom, go with Bob's thoughts!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:59pm
Well nobody managed to nail the last one which was the Potez 41.
Here is another one for you all, not as obvious as you  might think
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:51pm
Potez....ah!  Next time.

This one looks like a Peashooter by Boeing.  P-26C for the Chinese?????
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:57pm
Fiat G-?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:16pm
Like I said it nothing as obvious as a P-26. Also it is not a Fiat product although that is getting closer. ;)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:23pm
I think I've found it...the Breda 27 the Italian hint helped.
check out this link: http://italianaircraftofwwii.devhub.com/blog/category/fighter/
Boy it sure looks like the P-26C peashooter.
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:10am
You got it Tom, It is indeed the Breda Ba 27.
You got one for us?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 1:20am
Ok guys...here's one pusher- puller for y'all.
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 4th, 2014 at 2:54am
Thats got me scratching my head, my thoughts are something Italian perhaps?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 4th, 2014 at 11:13am
Your in the ballpark there Kiwi... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 4th, 2014 at 11:40am
Well, that leaves me out l was thinking French. Those engine nacelles are the only item that give me some sort of head scratch.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 5th, 2014 at 1:09am
Found it! Piaggio P 23m from 1935.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 5th, 2014 at 10:26am
Kiwi...well done.  Piaggio P-23m  is correct.
OK...who's got another one?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 7th, 2014 at 3:38pm
While we are waiting for someone else to post here is another one to amuse yourselves with in the meantime.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 7th, 2014 at 11:15pm
Looks Russian to me.  I'll do some checking!!!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 7th, 2014 at 11:49pm
Werkspoor Jumbo was a 1930s Dutch biplane freighter aircraft

Apparently only one made and was flown by KLM.  It seems the enclosed cowling caused engine overheating and was later removed.  Not as sleek with the radial in the air.

http://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/tag/interwar/
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 8th, 2014 at 1:07am
Well done Tom, that one didn't last long at all, did it!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:01am
You guys are just too good for me or maybe l need new glasses/spectacles.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:46am
Who is able to post an airplane, the one who guessed the latest?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:47pm
My thoughts are that, until we can get more people playing, anyone can post. Although I think it is a good idea to refer in your answer the post number you are having a go at.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:17pm
Well, here is my try at this since l have to so far guess any of the past photos: This is for post #171
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by mitch j on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:55am
G'day guys
I love looking at all these obscure aircraft that you guys come up with & am always amazed at your knowledge of them. I dont participate in answers because-a:I never have any idea what they are,& b:there are really easy ways to get the answers using internet "tools" (which I'm sure your aware of!), &, even though I use them,I'm not going to try & sound all clever & give the answers,sounding like I know what I'm talking about! Its a good thread guys-Keep it up!! I'll try & find something from my book collection to add!


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:43am
Mitch, c'mon and join us! I don't use the internet to find them cos I don't know how to and I'm too old in the tooth to learn but I have been reading aircraft mags since the 50s!

#171 has me exercising my grey matter, current thought is Czech, but not an Avia

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 10th, 2014 at 9:24am

mitch j wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:55am:
G'day guys
I love looking at all these obscure aircraft that you guys come up with & am always amazed at your knowledge of them. I dont participate in answers because-a:I never have any idea what they are,& b:there are really easy ways to get the answers using internet "tools" (which I'm sure your aware of!), &, even though I use them,I'm not going to try & sound all clever & give the answers,sounding like I know what I'm talking about! Its a good thread guys-Keep it up!! I'll try & find something from my book collection to add!



Mitch: even using the internet is not an easy task to find some a/c and there is no "WE ARE SUPER BRAINS" :D l have to correctly answer one yet. This is just an exercise to keep our minds young. l wager that you ::) are sitting there naming each a/c.

Kiwi: arent we all long in the tooth if we  we have our oringinals ;D

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:52am
Mitch,

I'm not that smart either...I've got several books and have read and scanned them over and over for years so I usually go back to them or look up a  country that I think might be the manufacturer's place of origin.  Just some fun diversion.  As has been said, trying to keep the mind sharp.

Jump in with any thoughts and join the fun. 
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:54am
@Kiwi: re: post #171 not the correct area, but getting luke warm.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 10th, 2014 at 11:04am
re: post #171-  I was thinking Junker all metal monoplane like the Junker-Fokker CL-1 but the nose doesn't look right for that plane.

edit:  3/10/2014 10:12 am --  I think it might be the Polikarpov IL-400b
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:02pm
Tom, your second guess is in the correct country but not the exact builder. Try again l think you are on the right track.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 10th, 2014 at 4:05pm
re: reply #171
Polikarpov IL-400b

G. A. Z. NO. 1 (State Aircraft Factory No. 1)

Khodinka, Moscow, USSR - 1924

How's this.... any closer?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:40pm
Correct country, l will give you this one:
Polikarpov  I-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_I-1

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 10th, 2014 at 10:14pm
Thanks Bob,

I guess I got hung up on the prototype. 
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 11th, 2014 at 1:19pm
Ok....here's one for you....most interesting.
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:30pm
Tom: l have seen this one before many many moons ago, l cannot remember where. GOOD ONE

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 18th, 2014 at 2:39am
The engine prop and cowl look very American to me but danged if I can find it

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 18th, 2014 at 11:05am
Think Pacific Rim...
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 19th, 2014 at 12:52am
# 182  Nakajima B3N1

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 19th, 2014 at 10:56am
#182 Correct Kiwi....the Nakajima B3n1(B4N1)  there are two designation for this single prototype.  Well Done! Most unusual configuration for a plane.
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 20th, 2014 at 1:27am
OK Here's another one for you all.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 20th, 2014 at 10:25am
1st glance looks like the DeHavilland Comet Racer... but I'll give it some research.  I'm sure you're throwing us a curve!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 12:54am
Caudron C 641 Typhon mail plane/racer.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 2:56am
You got it, the Caudron 640 mailplane, 8 of which were built, 2 were later modified to racers and called 641
http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/Comets/C640.htm

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 24th, 2014 at 12:57am
What a great plane...I think this one might make a great twin free flight model...anyone out there inspired to give this one a try?

Thanks Kiwi for a great plane...way to go John in identifying her for us!  Well Done [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Tom

Have you got one for us John?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Mar 27th, 2014 at 4:12am
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/midpoint/09-05-2004024402AM.jpg

Identify the green racer. Extra kudos for the blue one.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 27th, 2014 at 12:35pm
ls that Steve Wittman standing next to the green a/c?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 27th, 2014 at 1:25pm
My guess would be the Shoestring Midget Racer designed by, Rodney Kreimendahl.  This is a guess on my part.  I'm not as familiar with these Midget Racers!
Edit:
After a bit of research... I believe it's the Wittman V-Witt.  Most interesting aircraft with amazing performance.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 27th, 2014 at 1:59pm
lf that is Steve W. then l second Toms observation.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Mar 28th, 2014 at 11:29pm
Yes, that's Steve Wittman standing in front of his V-Witt.

There is another homebuilt airplane designer in the picture standing by the blue racer which he built from another famous designer's plans. His first design is quite popular and has even been kitted.

The picture was taken at a Formula Vee race in Cincinatti.

BTW, check the direction of rotation of the propellors on the three VW powered aircraft.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 29th, 2014 at 1:42pm
Most interesting...I hadn't noticed the rotation of the props till you pointed them out.  Just the reverse of most US aircraft.  Counter Clockwise from the cockpit!  Must be the gearing from the VW engines.

Could it be the Cosmic Wind????
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Mar 30th, 2014 at 5:04am
Not the Cosmic Wind. Think plans built Formula Vee racer.

What I was trying to point out is that Wittman's prop rotates opposite to the other two. Most aircraft VW conversions have the prop on the end where the generator pulley used to be. Wittman used an extension off of the flywheel end of the engine.

The designer behind the blue racer is most famous for a single place high wing monoplane finished in Bahama Blue with white trim.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 30th, 2014 at 12:20pm
l still can not find what the GREEN a/c is but l think that the blue is:
#77 - "Blueberry" (aka "Oldberry") Built by Ed Fisher
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:02pm
If I couldn't convince you that #188 was a DH Comet what about this then?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:40pm
Kiwi, l do not have much hair now and you are contributing to the loss of those 5 that l do. LOL. Gotta do a little research.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Apr 5th, 2014 at 1:51am
Yes, that was Blueberry and Ed Fisher was standing behind it. He's better known for his Zippy Sport.

Blueberry is a Sonerai designed by John Monet.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 21st, 2014 at 12:37am
C'mon guys,we haven't even had any wild guesses for #201,much more of this silence and I'll have to start giving out clues ;D !

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Apr 21st, 2014 at 9:52am
Well...you've done well in presenting a very frustrating aircraft for identification.  Definitely has the looks of the DH88 but it's not a Caudron that I can find.  I'm open for a hint!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 21st, 2014 at 5:19pm
OK, try the largest country in the world (although it's a bit smaller now)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 21st, 2014 at 10:01pm
In area: Russkie.
In population: China.

?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 5:33pm
I'd go with area!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 8:05pm
Kiwi: you had to give it away for me to be able to guess, nice one l've never heard of it. OOS Aviatourist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OOS_Aviatourist

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:24am
Hmmm. I have it as the Gregorovich DG 55 and the photo came out of  Flying Review International

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 10:29am
Kiwi...definitely stumped me!  Never heard of this one or seen a picture.  Even with the name given I can't seem to find a picture of it on the net.

Well Done!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by mitch j on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 4:18pm
Kiwi is right-according to my "dirty rotten cheats big book of answers" it is a Grigorovich DG 55. (although according to "the book", Bobs suggestion sounds like it just might be the same thing but I couldnt find any pictures.)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 24th, 2014 at 1:40am
OK! Kiwi, put another one up for us to scratch out brains on. :D

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 24th, 2014 at 4:20pm
OK here's another one then, hopefully not  as obscure.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 24th, 2014 at 6:40pm
Ok! l am allready in trouble :-? with this pusher job!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Apr 25th, 2014 at 12:33am
I'm definitely going to have to get the resource book that you find these aircraft in!!!  I've not got a clue about this one.  I suspect it's a homebuilt prototype. 

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 25th, 2014 at 3:06am
No it's not a homebuilt but a one-off.
Clues: Made in 1940s
Not American or Continental.

Go for it!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Apr 30th, 2014 at 2:56pm
OK, time for some more help for you guys.
It's British.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 3rd, 2014 at 5:15pm
It seems like this one stumped you all. It is the Planet Satellite. First flew in 1949, it was built of magnesium, which proved to be it's downfall.
You can read more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Satellite

I'll find another for you.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 4th, 2014 at 12:52am
OK, here's another one
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 4th, 2014 at 2:13pm
Now we're talking, Argentina I think!  IA-24 Calquin?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 4th, 2014 at 4:14pm
Right on! Couldn't fool you with the radial powered Mosquito trick  ;D.
Got one for us?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 4th, 2014 at 9:28pm
l knew that it was a radial powered Mosquito, but l did not know that it was Argentinian.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 5th, 2014 at 4:37am
Ahh, so we did fool you. It was influenced by the Mosquito but an entirely different design
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 9th, 2014 at 3:20am
C'mon you guys, someone must have a mystery to add to mixture.
While you are finding one here is another to identify.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 11th, 2014 at 10:54am
l think it is the BOULTON PAUL P.111/111A or P.120.


Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 12th, 2014 at 4:50am
Right era, right country, wrong plane. P 111 never had the little delta stabiliser on the tail










Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 12th, 2014 at 2:57pm
Well! Back to scratching my bald head and looking through the pile of books and/or trying to remember what l think this may be.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 12th, 2014 at 3:04pm
Well! Kiwi, your clue gave me an area to start with and l say that it is the Fairey Delta.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 12th, 2014 at 3:19pm
Thats it Bob, it's the Fairey FD 1. Started to build 3 but only one completed and flown. Lessons learnt were embodied in the FD 2 which held the world speed record for a long time and was eventually modified to test the Concorde wing planform.

Got one for us?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 19th, 2014 at 4:20am
Seems to be bit of a reluctance to post posers?

Try another one, with these markings it should be easy for you guys over there.

Please, will some more folks join in?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 19th, 2014 at 11:59am
Kiwi: l thought that you would pass the poster over to another after the last post. So it is to the correct guess to post the next a/c, my mistake, l may now understand.

The new photos is of a Curtiss P-60 l do not know which sub series.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 19th, 2014 at 4:53pm
Until we can get more people participating Bob I don't think it matters much who posts, we can keep track easily by referring to the post number.

Sorry,#231 is not the Curtiss P-60

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 19th, 2014 at 6:53pm
I have seen #231, but l cannot recall where.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 19th, 2014 at 7:40pm
OK...how about Curtiss XF-14C-2? 

I think it's definitely Curtiss!!!!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 19th, 2014 at 10:35pm
Bingo!

You got one for us?
Or do you want another?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 20th, 2014 at 11:03am
Let me see what I can find for you all!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 20th, 2014 at 11:23am
Here's one for y'all....
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 20th, 2014 at 12:54pm
Thanks a lot Tom, l will never get this one.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 21st, 2014 at 3:52am
#238 is the  I.Ae.34 Clen Antú from Argentina sometimes called the Horton XVa. First flew in 1949 and a total of 6 were built.

(The Argentinian symbol on the tail area was a great help!) ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 22nd, 2014 at 6:31pm
Here's another one to have a go at.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 22nd, 2014 at 7:58pm
post #238 is indeed I.Ae.34 Clen Antú from Argentina!  Well done Kiwi! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 22nd, 2014 at 10:51pm
Re: post #248 reminds me of the Douglas DC-5 but the tail is larger and more square.  still looking!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 23rd, 2014 at 12:52am
Post #241 looks like a Fairchild ?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 23rd, 2014 at 3:07am
No, not a Fairchild

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jdincau on May 23rd, 2014 at 8:55am
Lockheed Saturn?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 23rd, 2014 at 11:46am
I concur with jdincau...I believe it's a Lockheed Saturn also!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 23rd, 2014 at 12:09pm
Yep! jdincau is correct, it is the Lockheed Saturn.


Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 23rd, 2014 at 11:04pm
Yep, you fellas go it,it's the Lockheed Saturn of 1946.
Projected feeder transport; unique right-left interchangeable components (gears, tail surfaces, outboard wings, etc. Only 1 built.

Who's got another?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on May 24th, 2014 at 3:46am

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 24th, 2014 at 11:38am
Looks like it might be the Wright model B....I believe it was used to demo the use of firing a machine gun for the first time from an airplane.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on May 25th, 2014 at 2:23am
A Wright Model B is considerably larger than this airplane but you're in the right era.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 25th, 2014 at 8:12pm
Might it be a Farman Shorthorn?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 25th, 2014 at 10:25pm
I've changed my mind, I'm now going for the Wright EX "Vin Fizz"

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 27th, 2014 at 12:54am
I concur with Kiwi...the "Vin Fizz" is the aircraft I believe.  Check this site

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on May 29th, 2014 at 12:50am
The Vin Fizz it is.

Thanks Tom for the page on the flight.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 29th, 2014 at 5:06am
One more for you before I call it quits for the night (it's bed time here in my part of the world!)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 29th, 2014 at 1:00pm
Looks like a modified Ju52 Iron Annie to me!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 29th, 2014 at 1:28pm
The wing is shoulder mounted so l have no idea.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 29th, 2014 at 6:19pm
Two clues, both are which are stating the obvious, it's pre war and it's not American

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 29th, 2014 at 7:31pm
A French Amiot?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 29th, 2014 at 7:59pm
No, go East young man!

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 30th, 2014 at 12:26pm
It is Ruskie?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 30th, 2014 at 3:26pm
Yep. (that should make it easier)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 30th, 2014 at 4:55pm
I believe I found it!  I think it is the:

PS-9 2M-17 Krokodil (Crocodile)/ANT-9, named after a satirical magazine, which was a standard production machine converted to become part of the Maxim Gor’kiy Propaganda Squadron whose aircraft were mostly named to popularise Soviet periodicals. This aircraft was fitted with a long ‘snout’ and false ridges on the ‘back’ and painted up to resemble a leering crocodile. See more on this site: Click Here

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 30th, 2014 at 8:31pm
Well done Tom!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 31st, 2014 at 12:13am
Ok guys...how about this one!
Tom
Myster_plane_post__267.jpg (120 KB | )

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 31st, 2014 at 2:29am
#267 - Ikarus 451

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on May 31st, 2014 at 2:54am
Looks like the Ikarus 451.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 31st, 2014 at 11:30am
l was puzzled until Kiwi and John Webster guessed this Ikarus 451. l have never seen or heard of it. Just looked it up on Wikipedia and WOW!

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 31st, 2014 at 11:50am
Right you are fellows! It is the Ikarus 451, Nice Yugoslavian aircraft that had many various derivatives. 
Well done! 

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 31st, 2014 at 5:34pm
Heres another for you
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 31st, 2014 at 6:52pm
Now I've seen #272, it is British yes :-?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 31st, 2014 at 8:05pm
yes :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 31st, 2014 at 10:18pm
Is #272 the Bristol Type 163 Buckingham?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 1st, 2014 at 1:45am
Thats it Bob, well done.


Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 1st, 2014 at 5:15pm
Ok! guess this one.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 1st, 2014 at 5:33pm
Avro Bison?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 1st, 2014 at 6:57pm
That was too easy for an encyclopedia like you Kiwi, that is it. So what do you have now?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 1st, 2014 at 8:42pm
This one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 1st, 2014 at 8:50pm
I have seen this a/c, but only once and I cannot remember where. Good one kiwi.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 1st, 2014 at 11:11pm
I believe it's a French airliner, the Blériot 125 (or Bl-125). re: Reply #280

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 1st, 2014 at 11:52pm
Thats the one Tom,
Interesting video of it here   (53 second newsreel clip)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVHKf_R3Vuw

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 2nd, 2014 at 12:16pm
OK fellas here an easy one!

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 2nd, 2014 at 1:49pm
Avro Lancastrian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancastrian

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 2nd, 2014 at 3:56pm
right you are Bob....well done.  What a model this one would be.  Two props and two jets... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 2nd, 2014 at 3:57pm
Lancastrian test bed fitted with two Sapphire jet engines (note both Merlins feathered)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 2nd, 2014 at 8:45pm
Ok! another easy one I am sure that you guys are just a world  of knowledge.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 4:56am
Blackburn Sydney?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 10:01am
Kiwi, you are correct [smiley=thumbsup.gif]. I knew it would be too easy, I will have to look a little further ;) the next time its my turn.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 5:17pm
Thanks Bob,

here's another
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 8:35pm
Kiwi, you come up with those that I keep thinking that I have seen it, but cannot remember where or when ;D.

Another good photo.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 4th, 2014 at 1:06am
Ditto what Bob said....I know I've see this one but still haven't been able to place it!  I think it's British!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 4th, 2014 at 5:02am
You're on the right track Tom

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 4th, 2014 at 12:10pm
I knew that I'd seen this one before...I believe it's the Miles M.30 X Minor

Here's a nice informative description on RCGroups: Click Here

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 4th, 2014 at 5:09pm
Thats it Tom, you got one for us?
How do we get others to join in?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 4th, 2014 at 7:54pm
Way to go Tom, that was a neat looking airplane.

This is too far down on the page in my opinion.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 5th, 2014 at 11:24am
We can move this up the page and I'll look into that.  I'm not sure how to get more involved. Some are just interested in building and flying S&T models.  Not researching mystery planes.  No judgments either way!!! When I'm in a building funk, I find inspiration looking for unusual planes that might make a great S&T model.  I've found a few that I've added to my "To Do" list!  As if there needed to be more planes added to that list!   :D ::) :o ;)


Here's another one for y'all!
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 5th, 2014 at 5:16pm
You guys are killing me, I have seen this set up in several different airplanes, but I cannot seem to remember which a/c this version is.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 5th, 2014 at 10:55pm
Thats the Bujon-Croses B-EC7 .
Tandem wings are different enough but as for tandem landing gear? Well thats just silly!
More "out of the box" thinking from the French  [smiley=smiley.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 5th, 2014 at 11:41pm
Correct Kiwi!!!!  You're a walking encyclopedia on aircraft!!!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 5th, 2014 at 11:55pm

Sky9pilot wrote on Jun 5th, 2014 at 11:41pm:
Correct Kiwi!!!!  You're a walking encyclopedia on aircraft!!!
Tom


Maybe i'm just an old fart who needs to get a life!

Another.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 12th, 2014 at 12:04pm
I believe it's (Reply #302) the Short Sturgeon SB.3 ASW variant (WF632)

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 12th, 2014 at 9:36pm
I have it as the DB 3 version (the turboprop variant) but lets not argue. :)
Your turn.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 13th, 2014 at 4:42pm
This should be a fairly easy one gentlemen...

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:37pm
I'll hold off on this one for a while so someone else can have a go, that's a nice photo of it that I've not seen before.

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 15th, 2014 at 12:01am
Napier-Heston racer!

http://www.airracinghistory.freeola.com/aircraft/Napier-Heston%20Racer.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier-Heston_Racer


Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 15th, 2014 at 1:12am
Alright BigRip...that's it! Your turn to stump us!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 15th, 2014 at 2:27pm
Ok! you guys will probably guess this one in no time!
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 15th, 2014 at 2:45pm
Looks British to me!  I'll do some research.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 15th, 2014 at 4:46pm
Not British but Indian

Hindustan HT-2

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 15th, 2014 at 6:27pm
Kiwi, you are killing me. I think you know every airplane that exists or existed. Good job, it is all yours now.

Now

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 16th, 2014 at 4:26am
ok,here's another,be warned tho,things aren't always what they seem ;)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 16th, 2014 at 9:16pm
Looks like it's from the BT-13, T-6 family.  but the tail is wrong!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by terryman on Jun 16th, 2014 at 11:13pm
I'm not normally into this thing but came across this one, just dying to know what it is.

Terry
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 17th, 2014 at 12:10am
Terry...LOL

I'm almost sure yours is the Fairchild C-82 or it's sister the later development of the C-82 the Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar.  Prior to any jet assist!   ;D :D ;) [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

check out here for more info Click Here

Oh no...I see I didn't see the empennage arrangement is different. So it must be the  Chase/Fairchild C-123 or It really must be a cross between the two above and the Fairchild C-123 Provider but with the Packet's rear door setup!  [url=Fairchild C-123 Provider]Click Here[/url]

My grandsons would love both the plane and the car!!!! :)
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 17th, 2014 at 1:59am
#313 is not from the T6 family or the BT13 either

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 18th, 2014 at 9:25pm
#313 Kiwi, I am thinking Czhec?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 19th, 2014 at 4:24pm
Sorry,not Czech(or Polish)

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 19th, 2014 at 7:21pm
Ok! Then I am guessing Chinese.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 19th, 2014 at 11:41pm
nope, not anywhere in Asia :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 21st, 2014 at 12:36pm
Ok! If not Chinese then maybe south of the border (USA) say Argentina.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 21st, 2014 at 4:04pm
Post 313 is I believe the Argentinian FMA IAe.22 DL

This one apparently had some problems on landing!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 21st, 2014 at 6:37pm
I was digging, but Tom got it!

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 21st, 2014 at 10:53pm
You got it Tom,well done.

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 5:35pm
That last one was a real challenge to discover.  finally found it with the hints and Bob's questions to help direct my searches.

Here's one that y'all will probably find right off.  I'm intrigued by the interesting nacelles on this one!

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 9:56pm
#326 is the Short Sperrin, two of which were built in the 50s as backups should the RAF V Bombers not come up to scratch.The unusual nacelles are because each one holds two engines, one above the other

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 5:23pm
Again Kiwi...not much of a challenge for you! Well Done, you are correct!  I bet they were a nightmare for the maintenance crew with that over under arrangement!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm
BAC Lightnings (not  the P-38 variety ;) )had the under and over engine arrangement also.

here's a lighter one

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 24th, 2014 at 9:32pm
my last one is pretty obscure so here are some clues:

first flew on 3 April 1937 ,  Engine cooling problems required a forced landing, and there were immediate comments on its sluggish handling in the air and on its cross-wind taxying problems due to the narrow track undercarriage. This was the only flight; before there was time to improve the cooling and handling, financial problems forced the company into Receivership in June 1937, and all development stopped

the engines lay buried in each wing immediately behind the box spar, driving a small two-bladed propeller via a gearbox, which increased the output speed by 10%, and a shaft to the trailing edge. These shafts were horizontal in flight, and so emerged above the wing surface on the way rearwards, contained in a shallow cowling. Radiators were mounted inside the wing, next to the engine, the cooling air ducted from under the front of the wing and exited via slots in the rear of the cowling. Fuel was stored in leading-edge tanks.[6][4]

The wing was fixed to the fuselage at three points. There was a pivot at the centre of a pair of turntable rings, one on the fuselage, and one on the wing underside and just under 3 ft (890 mm) in diameter, plus two L-shaped locking bolts. Before the wings could be rotated, the flat-topped decking on the rear fuselage had to be swung out on hinges to hang down along the fuselage sides,[6][4] then with these bolts removed, the wing could be swung through almost 90° so that one trailing edge, with its aileron raised vertically, lay close to the fin.[7] The resulting storage planform was narrower than that of a typical folding aircraft, but longer. The aim of the rotating wing was not so much to save space as to make folding a one-man, rather than a two-man task

The main undercarriage wheels were in line with the wing leading edge, but largely within the fuselage, with only about 60% of the diameter showing below. Their shock-absorbing legs were also inside the fuselage.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 25th, 2014 at 11:24am
Looks like a scaled down troop glider of WWII.  I'm still looking!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 25th, 2014 at 10:52pm
#329 I believe is the Carden-Baynes Bee

The Carden-Baynes Bee was a 1930s British two-seat aircraft, with twin engines in pusher configuration buried in the wings. The wings rotated for storage. Financial problems limited the Bee to a single flight.

Wikipedia link: Click Here

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 26th, 2014 at 4:03am
Thats it Tom.

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 26th, 2014 at 10:51am
Ok fellas, here's one I found...
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:05pm
Ok! Tom where did you find this aircraft, I have never seen it?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 27th, 2014 at 1:01am
Pretty sleek isn't it?  Glass and Carbon fibre composite construction!  Nice! Found it on the net looking for Kiwi's mystery planes!!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 27th, 2014 at 3:37am
Bit  of a search but I think it is the Swiss Aceair AERIKS 200

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jun 27th, 2014 at 6:23pm
Nope but on the right continent!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 12th, 2014 at 4:06am
Dunno if any one else can find it but I can't!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 12th, 2014 at 3:47pm
Amazing I finally stumped Kiwi.... :o  who'd a thunk it!!!

It's a French homebuilt CC02

Link at post #54 Click Here

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 12th, 2014 at 3:57pm
How about this one?

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 14th, 2014 at 7:34pm
French SNCAC NC.1071

http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/sncac_nc-1071.php

Looks like it would make an interesting ducted fan model.

Any thoughts about this one?  Made in the USA.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jul 15th, 2014 at 11:40am
You got it Simpleflyer!!!  Well Done [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 19th, 2014 at 3:59am
#342 looks like it might be related to the Dominion Skytrader 800?

When I tried to open the website for Toms CCO2 it told me my ISP was banned from doing so. That makes things harder!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 21st, 2014 at 7:46pm

Quote:
#342 looks like it might be related to the Dominion Skytrader 800?


Although the Plane in #342 and the Dominion Skytrader look alike they are not related. 

Perhaps, a bit of clarification is needed.  Shown in #342 is the early prototype of this mystery plane.  The form that reached production and flew is pictured below.  Only eight were produced.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 4:56am
That model pictured is the Evangel, produced for missionary work.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 4:36pm
That's correct, Kiwi.  We're attracted to the craft because of it's shape.  It looks like a simple to build model for swing control flight.

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 7:28pm
I just had to look that airplane up and found this in Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangel_4500

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 25th, 2014 at 4:41pm
Well all I can say is that there to be such a difference between the prototype and the ones that follow it someone must have had the plans upside down!

Speaking of strange and ugly aircraft what do you reckon this is?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 5th, 2014 at 4:47am
C'mon guys , there can't be that many fat gutted metal covered triplanes!

Clue- it's American!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:45pm
De Kellis-Olsen air truck

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 5th, 2014 at 11:25pm
Boy am I glad someone finally found this one.  I tried everywhere and everything I could to find this one.  Very ugly triplane.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 6th, 2014 at 4:05am
Well done! Apparently you could carry a jeep inside it.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 6th, 2014 at 9:23pm
OK Beazld...you got one for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 7th, 2014 at 1:11am
Been a while...lemme see if I remember how to do this...

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 7th, 2014 at 4:33pm
Sopwith Swallow

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 7th, 2014 at 6:36pm
I guess I need to be a little more careful answering these!  I'm playing with the Pros here!
well how about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Aug 7th, 2014 at 10:54pm
I've never seen this one

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 8th, 2014 at 1:15am

Beazld wrote on Aug 7th, 2014 at 6:36pm:
I guess I need to be a little more careful answering these!  I'm playing with the Pros here!
well how about this one?


Gray Goose??? Not sure what he called the disk rotor thiingie...


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 8th, 2014 at 6:38am
Good Going Black Lion.  Caldwell Gray Goose. Apparently only had one flight attempt (imagine that!)
You guys are pros!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 8th, 2014 at 2:51pm
Well, I jumped in out of turn (didn't read the rules) and Kiwi guessed my entry as the Sopwith Swallow so....it's on Kiwi now to stump us.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 8th, 2014 at 7:29pm
OK guys, what about this one?

Nev
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 9th, 2014 at 12:44am
Bréguet Br.790 Nautilus

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 9th, 2014 at 1:52am
That's it, it's on my "to build" list for electric R/C
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 9th, 2014 at 1:53am
Aye! That's what it looks like to me.  Well done Black Lion.  How about it Kiwi?  Or is it some other mark?

Ooops, you posted Kiwi while I was typing.  Good Job!  I can't wait to see this modeled!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 9th, 2014 at 2:17pm
Okay...let's see who's first to get this one...


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 9th, 2014 at 2:59pm
Abrams Explorer P-1

check out reply #53

Give it another shot!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 9th, 2014 at 11:36pm
Mine was a pic of the PC-4 but I don't see any differences.

And so...again...guess this one (unless Tom already has posted it  ;D )


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 10th, 2014 at 12:02am
#368 is a Koolhoven F.K.50

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:01am
is it a Koolhoven H.K. 50?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:02am
man, too slow again!
I meant FK50 but my fat fingers got in the way again...

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:28pm

Kiwi wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 12:02am:
#368 is a Koolhoven F.K.50


Kiwi got it in first by 8 hours and 59 minutes! Koolhoven F.K.50 it is.

Bring it on, Kiwi!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 11th, 2014 at 2:40am
OK, here you go-

Neville
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RMFF on Aug 11th, 2014 at 7:28am
A Bristol Bulldog
RMFF

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 11th, 2014 at 10:34am

Kiwi wrote on Aug 11th, 2014 at 2:40am:
OK, here you go-

Neville


That looks to be the Bristol type 123. I say "the" because they only built one.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 11th, 2014 at 6:45pm
You got it Black Lion, powered by the troublesome Goshawk steam cooled engine it was found to be laterally unstable at high speeds.

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 12th, 2014 at 1:52am
And here's one that some of us may have built a model of....


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 12th, 2014 at 6:28am
Aeronca K?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 12th, 2014 at 6:03pm

Beazld wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 6:28am:
Aeronca K?


You got it! At least close enough. It's an Aeronca KC actaully but the only difference is the engine being a Continental. Not unusual to find a K upgraded to a KC but all were Aeronca Scouts.

Give us your best shot now, Beazld...

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 13th, 2014 at 6:18pm
I am on the road till Friday and only have my ipad so i can't upload any pix till i get home.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Aug 14th, 2014 at 12:21am

Beazld wrote on Aug 13th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
I am on the road till Friday and only have my ipad so i can't upload any pix till i get home.


I was gone for two years....I think I can handle a couple of days wait.  ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 14th, 2014 at 4:36am
Heres one to keep you going until Beazld can get to his collection
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 14th, 2014 at 11:42am
Regarding Reply#382 I believe it's the  Dornier RS.III

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 14th, 2014 at 6:47pm
Spot on Tom, who'll be first to do a peanut version [smiley=happy.gif]?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 14th, 2014 at 9:00pm
That would be a real challenge with the wing, engines and boat all separated held together with struts.  That the real challenge.

Got another one while we wait on Beazld?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 14th, 2014 at 10:12pm
OK,
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 15th, 2014 at 7:55am
here's one that may be too easy
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 15th, 2014 at 6:24pm
Hawker Tomtit (that particular one is part of the Shuttleworth Collection)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:18am
Ok you guys!!!! You're way too fast for me! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Keep up the challenges...helps expand the mind! :D ;D
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Aug 18th, 2014 at 5:17pm
Kiwi nailed it!  I thought it was too easy. I still am trying to figure out his blended wing thingie.  Amazingly the background looks very similar, and the stripes in the rudder make me think it's from the Commonwealth, but so far I'm stumped.  :-X

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 21st, 2014 at 8:01pm
I think the one with the blended wing fuselage is an early French aircraft, still looking.  I've seen it before but just can't seem to recall the name.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 3:56am
Not French. The company that built the one and only is still in existance.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 24th, 2014 at 10:09pm
Well 10 days now and no bodies got it so I had better spill the beans!
The aircraft in #386 is the Westland Dreadnought.

The extremely handsome Westland Dreadnought postal monoplane, of which only one example, J6.986, was built. Seen here at Westland's Yeovil airfield prior to its first and only flight of 9 May 1923, the Dreadnought incorporated a blended wing/fuselage structure and was powered by a 450hp Napier Lion II with accommodation for two pilots and up to eight passengers, or the equivalent in mail. Certainly, in comparison with contemporaries, the Dreadnought appeared to look the part. However, the Dreadnought was to prove spectacularly unsuccessful: shortly after take-off the machine stalled and crashed, maiming its test pilot, Stuart Keep. A contributory factor was the use of a low-set, knife-sharp leading edge to the wing's airfoil section, something calculated to make any stall just that little bit more vicious. Despite the Dreadnought's fate, the blended wing/fuselage concept has re-surfaced on several occasion since, with the Miles Y series, McDonnell's XP-67 and most recently in the General Dynamics originated F-16

Here's something else for you to identify.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 27th, 2014 at 4:03pm
Reply #393 I believe is the Pilatus SB-2 Pelikan....
Click Here

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 27th, 2014 at 9:19pm
Thats it Tom, got one for us?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 28th, 2014 at 10:10am
Ok fellas...this should be an easy one.

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Colonel Manfred von Holstein on Aug 28th, 2014 at 11:13am
Latécoère 631

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 28th, 2014 at 6:03pm
Correct!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Alright Colonel, what-cha got for us?

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Colonel Manfred von Holstein on Aug 28th, 2014 at 6:47pm
How about another large "flying" boat?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 28th, 2014 at 10:41pm
MD 60  Lun "Caspian Sea Monster" Ekranoplan  ground effect vehicle

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 28th, 2014 at 10:44pm
I think Kiwi is correct, how about it, Colonel?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Colonel Manfred von Holstein on Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:07am
Sehr gut! [smiley=thumbup.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 29th, 2014 at 5:01am
Now this one would make a nice little model
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Aug 31st, 2014 at 1:15pm
It is a MILES something!

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Aug 31st, 2014 at 4:17pm
I was thinking the same thing Bob but couldn't find any Miles that matched this one!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 31st, 2014 at 5:18pm

Sky9pilot wrote on Aug 31st, 2014 at 4:17pm:
I was thinking the same thing Bob but couldn't find any Miles that matched this one!
Tom


Probably because its not a Miles. heres another photo

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:25am
Right-oh guys, 10 days up and no one got it. The cute wee thing is the Hillson Bi-Mono which  was a British experimental aircraft of the 1940s. It was designed to test the idea of "slip-wings", where the aircraft could take off as a biplane, jettison the upper, disposable wing, and continue flying as a monoplane. A single example was built, which successfully demonstrated jettisoning of the slip wing in flight. For more on it have a look here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillson_Bi-mono

2 photos of ii in the biplane configuration
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:30am
Hmm, couldnt get two photos to work on one post so here is the second photo.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:38am
I guess I get to put up another one, here is something pretty unique but should be fairly easy to find :)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 8:47pm
Kiwi, that was a good read [smiley=thumbsup.gif] on the Hillson Bi-Mono. I do remember a Hurricane being tested with the top wing.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 11th, 2014 at 9:12pm
Re: Reply#409...
I believe it's a Hatch/Jatch J71 the site I found has it listed as both a Hatch and Jatch J71
I found this site re: the J71 Click Here
Another site calls it the DFS Jacht 71  Click Here

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 12th, 2014 at 3:04am
Thats it Tom, I had it as the DFW Jacht 71.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 12th, 2014 at 6:13pm
Ok...how about this one?


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 12th, 2014 at 8:45pm
Morane Saulnier Epervier ?
https://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=epervierms.pdf (121 KB | )

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 13th, 2014 at 12:45pm
Right On Kiwi... it definitely is the Morane Saulnier MS-1500 Epervier (Hawk).
Thought this might be an easy one.  I kinda like the looks of this plane.  Unusual nose, lots of wing area and some nice schemes.  I just may have to make one in about a 24" span model.

Here's a link to the orange wings and stab picture...Click Here

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 13th, 2014 at 10:53pm
Another one for all you whizz kids out there
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 14th, 2014 at 10:30am
Looks like a derivative of the Fairey Barracuda, torpedo bomber....to me!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:32pm
Sorry, no.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:55am
Anyone else out there got a lead on this one???

Kiwi always seems to post a stumper!  I do have another guess but I'll hold off because I don't want it to be just me and Kiwi! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:27am
Yeah, I'd like to see some others join in too :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 24th, 2014 at 5:10pm
Well, I cant believe that on a modellers forum,that there aren't other airplane enthusiasts willing to have a go at identifying different aircraft.
My last one was the Supermarine 322 (unofficially called the "Dumbo") which lost out to the Fairey Barracuda as a torpedo,dive bomber and reconnaissance. The two prototypes built were partially of wood and seemed more like testbeds for the variable incidence wing, not actual prototype combat aircraft. the clean, fixed-gear design meant that it was faster than the retractable-gear Fairey Barracuda with the same engine.

Maybe we can get more attempts at this one
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Sep 24th, 2014 at 9:13pm
KIWI, you are just too good for my little ole brain, but I love to try to look up and discover what you have come up with. I just have to dig a little deeper to even get into the ball park. Keep em coming.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 24th, 2014 at 11:12pm
KIWI, looks like a Cessna 620 in your last post.

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Sep 25th, 2014 at 2:01am
That's it Al, twice a Cessna 310.

I look forward to see what you come up with for us

Neville :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 25th, 2014 at 6:11pm
OK, Neville, and the rest of the group.  Here is a kinda scarce asymmetrical center-line twin, both turbines - turboprop forward with conventional jet in the rear.  Only two built.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by thymekiller on Sep 30th, 2014 at 3:06pm
Found this on the side of the road somewhere in some small town in Iowa.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/012_zps5d9000f3.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/007_zps9f292c49.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/009_zps2e60c913.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/015_zpsd24b5d36.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/014_zps8b4ec107.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/013_zpse683c4e6.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/010_zpsa4f6b096.jpg

More pics if I can find them. The pilots name is on them. Can anybody name the gun?   

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/006_zpsf38c603a.jpg

This is a statue in a park in a different town. The prop on the plane and the prop on the boys beanie spin in the wind.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/004_zpsd3b4b951.jpg

This last one you will never believe. Sadly, I dropped the camera on the floor and by the time I got it going again I missed the shot. It's a Ford Tri-motor. Just floating around.  Again, somewhere in the corn belt.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/thymekiller/planes%20on%20a%20stick/001_zps2caf1a1a.jpg

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 30th, 2014 at 7:09pm
I believe Reply #425 is the Gulfstream American Hustler 500
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:51pm
Very good, Tom, you are correct.  Thank you for the GA 500 image.  I will add it to my collection of info for this plane.  It's simple shape is calling out to me be made into a 'swinger'.

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Sep 30th, 2014 at 11:51pm
Al...I was thinking that it would make a great rubber powered model as well... I really like the lines and the long nose would make the rubber power very nice with a long motor!

Looking now for 3 views. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Can anyone tell me what this plane is?

Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Oct 1st, 2014 at 8:20pm
Tom, I've found these 3 vus of the GA 500.  Not much detail or dimensions, but better than nothing.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 1st, 2014 at 8:32pm
Thanks Al...I think that's the better of two I found on the internet!  I've already started on the CAD drawing from that 3 view.  I hope to have a set of plans I can build from very soon.  I'm looking at approximately 27 inch span.  Can't decide yet on just one prop or like the Do335 two props one pushing and one pulling!  If I were really adventurous some type of ducted fan in the rear! :D :o ;)

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Black Lion on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 2:56am
Is #429 some sort of Jona out of Italy?

Can't be the J-6 cuz the wing doesn't look like it would pivot.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 8:02pm
Blacklion... it's not Italian
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Oct 4th, 2014 at 10:18pm

Quote:
Thanks Al...... If I were really adventurous some type of ducted fan in the rear!


You're welcome, Tom. 

Rubber up front with a small EDF in the tail would be quite a challenge. 

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Oct 8th, 2014 at 1:58am
I am thinking that #429 comes from Europe?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 8th, 2014 at 10:50am
Right you are Kiwi....

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Oct 14th, 2014 at 1:22am
Would it be Hungarian?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 14th, 2014 at 2:22am
Not Hungarian...
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Oct 15th, 2014 at 3:13pm
Hi,
Post #429  Germany, Darmstadt D22.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 15th, 2014 at 7:24pm
awiatik is absolutely correct!!!!  Well Done! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Have you got a mystery plane for us?

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Oct 16th, 2014 at 1:43pm
Hi all,
What is this plane?
Regards
awiatik
/Kostek/
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:06pm
The aircraft appears to be the RWD-13, a folding wing design.

regards, Ian  :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:27am

pb_guy wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:06pm:
The aircraft appears to be the RWD-13.....

regards, Ian  :)

Yes, it is RWD -13 and -13 version actually S, in Romanian colors.
Your turn.
Regards,
Kostek


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:07am
This one should be fairly easy to identify; geodetic wing construction, forward sweep.
regards, Ian

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 1:19am
#444 Viking Cygnet,  VW powered homebuilt

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 12:05pm
Right you are Kiwi.  Tag ... you're it.

The Cygnet had a few names. I knew it as the Sisler SF-2 Cygnet. It was on my short list for building before I got my Termite.
    Span: 30 ft 0 in (9.14 m)
    Length: 19 ft 0 in (5.79 m)
    Height: 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m)
    Wing area: 124.8 sq.ft (11.60 sq.m)
    Weight empty: 585 lb (265 kg)
    Loaded weight: 1,100 lb (499 kg)
    Max speed: 108 mph (174 kmh)
    Cruise speed: 87 mph (161 kmh) at 8,000 ft (2,440 m)
    Climb: 580 ft (177 m)/min

With the shoulder-mounted wing and forward sweep, it would make a nice model. I couldn't find any existing plans for it on a google search.

Ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 1:53pm
OK here another nice looking one
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by staubkorb on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 9:51am
Airspeed AS 30 "Queen Wasp" prototype.  It's an aircraft I've had an eye on for some time for a possible build (rc) cause it reminds me of a cabin version of a WACO Taperwing (also on the rc want list).

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 11:20am
Pete beat me to it!  I believe Pete is correct, how about it Kiwi?
Alright Pete, let's see this one come to life on your building board! ;) :)
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by staubkorb on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 1:31pm
Probably won't, as I've not been able to turn up enough data on it (and I REALLY have too many other projects in line...).  There were only two prototypes built, IIRC - the one pictured and one on floats.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 2:41pm
Too bad...I fully understand why, though.  :( ;)
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 3:48pm
That's the one and because it was designed as a radio controlled target aircraft you can fly a model one without having to worry about carving a pilot for it.
How good is that?

A total of 7 were built (including the 2 prototypes) of the 65 that were ordered
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Oct 29th, 2014 at 9:55pm
You got one for us Pete?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 2nd, 2014 at 1:35pm
While we are waiting for Pete to put one up here's another to keep you going
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Nov 2nd, 2014 at 9:16pm
cowl and vertical stab remind me of the Mew Gull.

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 3rd, 2014 at 3:23am
Not a Mew Gull

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Dave Andreski on Nov 3rd, 2014 at 11:12am
Something by MORANE?
Dave

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 3rd, 2014 at 1:53pm
No, but you are in the right area [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 8th, 2014 at 11:31am
Caudron, but I don't know which number.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 8th, 2014 at 8:34pm
Looks like a knock-off of a Keith Rider design, but not a Caudron, at least none that I saw when looking around. That wing strut is interesting. I take it that it is European. French design?

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 9th, 2014 at 2:26am
Yes to French, no to Caudron

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 11th, 2014 at 3:54pm
The airplane appears to be the René Leduc RL21


Quote:
René Leduc Nantes was a homebuilder who built several light aircraft in 1936. Thus he establishes an altitude record with its RL-16, a high-wing monoplane.

After altitude, René Leduc was interested in speed and in 1955 conceived the RL-20, modified and simplified, became the RL-21 equipped with a SNECMA-Regnier engine 136 hp.

The aircraft proved perfectly designed and without vices. After changing the engine that brought power to 160 hp, the aircraft established several world records for speed in its class, ultimately reaching 350 km / h in 1966.

The RL-21 is built almost entirely of wood and its structure is very simple. It is now preserved and visible to Nantes airport.

see: http://projetplaisir.free.fr/a08.html

Congrats ... quite obscure. It appears to have flown in 1960, not in the 30's as I haad previously assumed.

And now Pete might have found something?

Ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 23rd, 2014 at 10:36pm
While we are still waiting for Pete
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 24th, 2014 at 12:01pm
The picture looks like the 1930's. The airplane is quite similar to an Aeronca C-3, but either highly modified, or a knock-off of the design with struts replacing the bracing wires. I didn't find anything similar on a cursory search.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 24th, 2014 at 4:16pm
Affirmative, picture was taken either 1935 or 36.
No Aeronca connection

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 24th, 2014 at 5:53pm
OK! Got the time period, but is this USA or France?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 24th, 2014 at 11:37pm
Darn. I found a pic of it, but I can't seem to get any information about it except the name. There were 2 designers by that name (Hall), but I can't figure out which one it was.  :'(   Perhaps someone else can do better.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:50am
Try aerofiles.com

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:47am
OK. Thanks for the lead.

Aircraft: Hall Monopod
Manufacturer: Charles Ward Hall Inc, Mamaroneck NY. 1927: Hall Aluminum Aircraft Corp, Buffalo NY.
They specialized in a few aluminum seaplane designs.

From http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_Monoped
"Hall Monopod - unique sport aircraft designed by Charles Hall for personal purposes as a private passenger plane" ...
The aircraft was also used rare steering system with "steering-cabin" hanging from the ceiling ...
The aircraft was destroyed in a plane crash near Hopewell August 21, 1936 when he hit a tree ... Charles Hall was killed in the crash


From http://www.aerofiles.com/_h.html
Monoped 1935 = 2pChwM rg; 120hp Ranger; span: 32'0" length: 25'0" v: 130. Single landing wheel underneath the forward fuselage, plus two outrigger wheels. POP: 1 [X777N]. Charles Ward Hall lost his life in this one on 8/21/36, when he struck a tree in fog.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Nov 26th, 2014 at 8:15pm
Thats it, you got there. Now what have you got for us?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 26th, 2014 at 8:49pm
This is one that made a lot of people livid.

Ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Dec 13th, 2014 at 8:51pm
Can't get a handle on this one at all, even looking for hidden meanings in the comment [smiley=sad.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 13th, 2014 at 10:01pm
If you lived in the US and your government had wasted a bundle of money on it, you might know it well.  :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 13th, 2014 at 10:54pm
Looks like it might be one of the VTOL prototypes.... maybe the duPont Aerospace DP-1C
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Beazld on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:41am
I live in the US and the government wastes LOTS of money on more things than anyone can count, got another hint?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 15th, 2014 at 12:37am
Right you are Tom. The Dupont DP-1C, a 53% scale model of the intended aircraft DP-2 which will never be built.
See: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2007/06/the_aircraft_th/

Quote:
Congress has spent more than $63 million on an experimental aircraft that has never flown more than a few feet and that the Pentagon has repeatedly rejected. Designed as a plane that can take off straight up and then fly at 700 miles per hour, the craft has never attained a height of more than a few feet in prototype tests before crashing to the ground.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 15th, 2014 at 11:18am
From what I read on the DP-1C,  the government changed the requirements a couple times from the first request.  This always causes increases in cost.  And you never wind up with the pure aircraft you started to build.  With these modifications usually comes additional weight which equals less performance and increased cost! 

How about this one?

Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 15th, 2014 at 11:37am
Pretty!  :) Looks like a slightly forward swept wing (?), pusher, tandem seating with an elevated rear seat, possibly a belly-mounted camera.... Looks ideal for reconnaissance.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 15th, 2014 at 12:22pm
ian,

All good observations!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 19th, 2014 at 4:32pm
AHRLAC
see: http://www.ahrlac.com/
and
Ahttp://alizul2.blogspot.ca/2014/08/ahrlac-africas-first-indigenously.html

It also uses " Pratt & Whitney Canada’s PT6A engine" (Hooray Canada!!)

Ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 19th, 2014 at 6:43pm
pb_guy...you are correct!!!!  Thought this might make a nice rubber powered pusher sometime!

What you got for us?

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 20th, 2014 at 1:00am
Keeping with the idea of twin booms - although not a pusher, it is a small twin.

Ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 3:04am
I reckon it's the AirUtility AU-18.  Designed to have a removable cargo pod carried underneath

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 12:57pm
Correct  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
From Aerofiles:

Quote:
AU-18 1949 = 1pOmwM; two 75hp Continental C-75; span: 39'11" length: 21'11" load: 797# v: 125/x/x; ff: 4/18/49. Elsworth Gardenhire. Twin-boom, twin-tail fuselages with pilot's pod atop the wing midsection; detachable lower portion as a cargo pod. POP: 1 [N68819]; retired after its final flight in 1958. Modifications led to 1954 designation as AU-18-150B, as well as experimental AU-27 with 130hp Lycoming O-290, a ground-support plane for military trials (span: 48'6" length: 28'3").

Interestingly, it was a four-wheeler (twin tail wheels) and also had outboard wing slats.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:28pm
Here's one to be going on with

and while I'm at it -----------Merry Christmas!
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:25pm
I believe it's the Eldred Flyer's Dream
Aerofiles Click Here

Dewey Eldred, Willoughby OH.
   Eldred Flyer's Dream [NX36282] (Steve McKee)
  Eldred Flyer's Dream 1/72 model (Claudio Luchina)
Flyer's Dream 1946 = 2pClwMF; 125hp ?; span: 30'0" v: 120/100/50; ff: 6/4/46. D Eldred, Sol Fingerhut. A highly-original floatplane with a automobile-like nacelle mounted on top of a W-shaped wing. Floats were mounted under the lowest parts of the wing, with twin tail-booms attached to the rear of the floats. POP: 1 [NX36282].

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Dec 25th, 2014 at 2:33am
Yep,that's it

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:11pm
This one should be fairly easy...
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 30th, 2014 at 11:41am
Yes, fairly easy, even if only 2 were built by the French in the 1950's. A dual-powered design with a slightly swept wing. The Breguet Br. 960 Vultur See: http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/breguet_vultur.php


Quote:
The Breguet 690 Vultur was a mixed-powerplant design incorporating an Armstrong Siddeley Mamba turboprop in the nose and a Hispano-Suiza Nene turbojet in the rear fuselage. The jet provided additional thrust for combat performance and take-off.

Experience with the Vultur, first flown on 3 August 1951, led the French navy to abandon the idea of such a powerplant for a strike aircraft. Instead, Breguet was contracted to develop a three-seat carrier-based anti-submarine aircraft from the Vultur.


In the same vein, how about this one?

Ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RMFF on Dec 30th, 2014 at 1:15pm
Dark Shark or Ryan's Fireball?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:12pm
pb_guy...right on!!!  the Breguet 960

RMFF... Right on the Dark Shark, the Fireball had a radial engine in front....not the turboprop!

You guys are way ahead of me!!!! Sorry I hadn't caught up with this posting!

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 30th, 2014 at 7:58pm
Agree. The Dark Shark. It has good proportions for a rubber model.

go ahead, RMFF, what have you got for us?

Ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:33pm
While we are waiting, what about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:50pm
Looks like the thirties to me...and the markings look So. American.

I keep looking...
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40pm
Argentinian in origin. Delivered in 1936.

Checked the roundel here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_aircraft_insignia which suggested either Greece or Argentine. Did a Google search on "1930 military aircraft Argentine" and got a similar craft with a round bubble on top. This led to http://www.dieselpunks.org/profiles/blogs/s-a-m-61-and-they-called-him-bombi

"The Aé.M.B.1 (Aerotécnica, Militar, Bombardeo) was the first light bomber aircraft developed at the FMA (Fábrica Militar de Aviones)" ... "Powered by a Wright Cyclone SGR-1820F-3 rated at 715 hp at 6,890 ft (2,100 m), driving a variable speed three-bladed Hamilton Standard propeller 11 ft 9.7 in (3,60 m) in diameter, the prototype Aé.M.B.1 first took to the skies on June 9, 1935. Fixed armament consisted of a pair of Madsen Mod. 1933 0.3 in (7.65 mm) machine guns in a swiveling mount."

  Eventually, they supposedly ended up as cropdusters.

Ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:44pm
Thats the one Ian, the crop dusting role was new to me.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:16am
OK, here is one made for simple people.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 15th, 2015 at 2:48pm
Thats the Braunschweig  LF-1 Zaunkoenig, a  German STOL aircraft designed by Prof Ing HermanN Winter in 1940

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 15th, 2015 at 4:09pm
Right you are!

"...designed in 1939 by Prof. Ing. Hermann Winter ... It was a proof-of-concept design for a 'fool-proof' trainer intended for novice pilots with only one hour of ground instruction, the hour being reduced to five-minutes for those who had already flown gliders, and was intended to be impossible to either stall or spin."

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 15th, 2015 at 6:14pm
Here's another oddball one for you all.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jan 15th, 2015 at 6:50pm
I'm pretty sure it's a modified P-40C

P-40C (Model 81B) 1941 = As -40B with self-sealing tanks; v: 340/270/73 ceiling: 29,500'. POP: 193 [41-13328/13520], of which 10 to RAF as Tomahawk [41-13389/13390, -13396/13401, -13406/13407]. One pulled from ex-service condemned units and modified into a twin mock-up for preliminary evaluation; engines were not installed [41-13456].

Link Click Here

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:39pm
Well done, combat in that would be a challenge with the lack of vision!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:42am
I agree, a disaster...only recourse would be to run away hopefully faster than the enemy!

Ok here's an easy one...

Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 1st, 2015 at 8:13pm
OK, now this one was hard for me. At first, I thought Miles, but I couldn't find a match. Obviously I didn't look very well. I came back to it today, looking for a Curtiss-Wright P40 lookalike, and then came back to the Miles. This time it showed up; Miles Kestrel M.9
see http://home.comcast.net/~aero51/html/gallery/m9.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Kestrel
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 11:14am
You're correct.  That one has potential for rubber powered model.  Interesting shape!

Well done!  What have you got for us?

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 12:34pm
This one would be difficult to model, but I believe that Pres Bruning did a similar design as a peanut.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 12:45pm
Looks like the challenge would be getting all those struts mounted safely!

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:54pm
#506 is the Vickers 161,designed to carry the COW (Coventry Ordinance Works) 37mm gun. Oddly enough (given it's design) it didn't fly until 1931

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 10:36pm
Correctomundo.
3-view found here: http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/vickers_161.php
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 1:54am
Another
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm
Has the look of the Camel with F2B lower wing setup.  Cross between a Sopwith and Bristol huh?
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 9:42pm
Different. Looks like a Camel-based homebuilt with equal span like the Sopwith Bee. Not a regular production item by the Sopwith builders.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Feb 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm
Some more clues, yes it incorporated a lot of Sopwith parts, its instigator became famous a year after it was written off.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:24pm
Famous ... A reference to the transatlantic crossing by Alcock & Brown. Accordng to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alcock_%28RAF_officer%29
It was whilst at Eastchurch that Alcock received his commission as a flight sub-lieutenant in December 1915. In 1916 he was transferred to a squadron operating at Moudros, on the Greek island of Lemnos. While stationed at Moudros he conceived and built the Alcock Scout, a fighter aircraft built out of the remnants of unused and abandoned aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcock_Scout
The Alcock Scout, aka A.1 and Sopwith Mouse, was a curious "one-off" experimental fighter biplane flown briefly during World War I. It was assembled by Flight Lieutenant John Alcock at Moudros, a Royal Naval Air Service base in the Aegean Sea. Alcock took the forward fuselage and lower wings of a Sopwith Triplane, the upper wings of a Sopwith Pup and the tailplane and elevators of a Sopwith Camel, and married them to a rear fuselage and vertical tail surface of original design (presumably by Alcock himself). It was powered by a 110 hp Clerget 9Z engine, and carried a .303 Vickers machine gun.

Affectionally referred to as the 'Sopwith Mouse' by Alcock and his fellow designers, Alcock never flew it himself, but squadron-mate FSL Norman Starbuck made a few flights in it, the first on 15 October 1917. However, it crashed in early 1918, was written off and never flew again.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:46pm
This one is also a one-off, built to test a certain characteristic and flew a total of 29 minutes.
ian

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 5th, 2015 at 2:18pm
Been just over a month. Here is another hint:
"he took a mundane Taylorcraft BC-12 and installed this very tiny thing,a wing designed to work within the high-speed slipstream of the propeller to generate more than the normal lift."

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on Mar 5th, 2015 at 3:01pm
I thought it was a Taylorcraft but couldn't find any info.  I'll keep looking!

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Dave Andreski on Mar 6th, 2015 at 5:28pm
Larson Speedbird.
Dave

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 6th, 2015 at 7:33pm
Right Dave.
See: https://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/2012/10/13/larson-speed-bird-deadly-death-sticker/

ian

Have you got something interesting for us?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 2nd, 2015 at 12:10am
Been a bit quiet here the last couple of months so what about this?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 7th, 2015 at 11:58am
Might it have something to do with this?

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 7th, 2015 at 11:57pm
Thanks, Ian, for the Bendix clue.  We 'googled' Bendix and found the Bencix 51

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Shumaker/4008.htm

A brief history of the Bendix airplanes is at

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21319.0

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on May 8th, 2015 at 4:17am
Right  on Guys, got another one for us?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 8th, 2015 at 4:46am
How about this cutie, 3 built about 50 years ago.  One manned, one a UAV.  Two survive today as museum pieces.

sf
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 8th, 2015 at 4:44pm
Military modification of the Schweizer SGS 2-32?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 8th, 2015 at 5:08pm
pb_guy is on the mark...like the derivative LTV L450F by Ling-Temco-Vought.  Click Here

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 8th, 2015 at 10:19pm
Very good, Tom and Ian, you identified the L-450F very quickly.

We are planning to build a simple swing control model of it and include it in the 'simple swinger' fleet.  Ultimately, we're looking to build it in a 72 inch wingspan version.

al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 9th, 2015 at 12:30am
WoW...Al  72" version?  I really can't wait to see this one.  I saw Nasa's  YO-3 version flying into the NASA Ames field near San Jose... almost missed it.  No noise, quitest aircraft I've ever seen!!!!  Found this pic on the net!

OK pb_guy what else you got!
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 10th, 2015 at 12:48am
I was intrigued when I ran across this one. Just try to make a flying model!
Ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 10th, 2015 at 10:59am
Ian, that a/c is really unique. I see that the flying surfaces are fabric covered, but the rest is metal.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 10th, 2015 at 9:06pm
Yes. It still exists in a museum awaiting restoration. It never flew. Just in case you were wondering, yes ... it is an ornithopter.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Tom Akery on May 19th, 2015 at 12:11pm
I've seen pictures of this bird but just can't find it again.  I'm frustrated with Google now!  They've changed your search and now everything you've ever searched is added to your latest search.  Just muddying up the search!

Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 20th, 2015 at 12:14pm
Just to help a bit. The museum is in France.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 6th, 2015 at 10:28am
OK. Follow this link to the museum: http://www.musee-aviation-angers.fr/
look under collections.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 16th, 2015 at 8:29pm
Pb guy, I looked under 'collections' and you are indeed correct - there it was:  the Riout 102T Alerion.

What an unique looking aircraft.

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 17th, 2015 at 1:27am
OK Al, go ahead and post something else.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 18th, 2015 at 11:33am
OK Pbguy, how about this oldtimer.  It's currently on one of our corkboards in the process of construction as a profile 'swinger.

Al

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 18th, 2015 at 4:10pm
I've never seen one in orange! I'll let someone else get this one.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 18th, 2015 at 5:09pm

pb_guy wrote on Jul 18th, 2015 at 4:10pm:
I've never seen one in orange! I'll let someone else get this one.
ian


DITTO what PB said!!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by FFScott on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 6:58am
An FJ-1 Fury

Anyone have the plans for it?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 12:09pm
I don't know of any stick and tissue plans for this model but there are a number of 3 views that could serve easily as plans for construction of one.  Here's a 3 view you could possibly use.

Mike Stewart has a very nice plan of the Saab J-29 B "Tunnan"  Click Here

Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 7:16pm
Orange ones are target aircraft

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 7th, 2015 at 4:16am
Here's quite a nice looking ship.Anyone care to identify it?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 10th, 2015 at 2:24pm
Plane: Air-istocrat SR5
http://www.shu-aero.com/AeroPhotos_Shu_Aero/Aircraft_N/US_Aircraft_Corp/Air_istocrat_SR_5_NR860W_01.jpg
and
http://www.shu-aero.com/AeroPhotos_Shu_Aero/Aircraft_N/US_Aircraft_Corp/Air_Istocrat_SR_5_NR860W_02.jpg
and
http://www.aerofiles.com/airisto-sr5.jpg

Minimal information on this aircraft: 1929 = 1pOlwM; 95hp Cirrus. Cirrus Derby entry [NR860W]. ... 1929, Air-istocrat SR-5, "Winger Bullet" NR860W, sn 1, 95 hp Cirrus
Back of one photo reads:
538813..Watch your credit..International Newsreel photo slug..(Harding & Plane)
Noted New Jersey flyer and the plane he will use in the All-American Air Derby.
Roosevelt Field, L,I..Lt. Morgan Harding, test pilot of the U.S. Aircraft Corporation, standing by the Airistocrat Winged Bullet plane he will fly in the All American Air Derby which starts from Detroit on July 21st. Harding is a native of New Brunswick, N.J. He has been flying for the past 13 years and is considered one of the country's most expert airmen.
(E-7-17-30)

I also ran across an interesting item for Lt. Morgan Harding, a letter carried by him and signed with a note: first air mail flown from Harrisburg Airport, Aug 16 & 17, 1930
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:14am
Thanks guys for the patience with the thread... here's one I found recently, looks like one I wouldn't mind having. Especially up here in the Pacific Northwest!
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 28th, 2015 at 11:49am
Wilson Global Explorer.
  "The high-wing twin-engine Global Explorer was designed and constructed by Dean W. Wilson to the order of the explorer Hubert de Chevigny and the aircraft first flew in April 1991. A second aircraft was constructed later. ... Various Lycoming engines of between 200 hp and 300 hp have been fitted, depending on the expected altitude to be reached during planned operations. ... The plane flew finally from Australia to France in 1998 and the project was abandoned due to the high cost of maintenance."

http://www.coastcomp.com/av/fltline2/avion.htm
http://sirsteveincairns.smugmug.com/keyword/n376lc/i-CXXLSkc
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/32228953558753267/
http://www.acmp.com/blog/page/6

General characteristics (from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_Global_Explorer )
    Crew: 1
    Capacity: 6 passengers and crew
    Length: 39 ft 10 in (12.14 m)
    Wingspan: 67 ft 0 in (20.42 m)
    Height: 22 ft 0 in (6.71 m)
    Empty weight: 4,995 lb (2,266 kg)
    Gross weight: 8,000 lb (3,629 kg)
    Powerplant: 2 × Lycoming IO-540 , 300 hp (220 kW) each

Performance
    Maximum speed: 120 mph (193 km/h; 104 kn)
    Cruise speed: 110 mph (96 kn; 177 km/h)
    Stall speed: 60 mph (52 kn; 97 km/h)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 28th, 2015 at 11:54am
This one might be interesting for a model.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 28th, 2015 at 9:50pm
Sorry I didn't get back to your response.  You were absolutely correct!
Well done! I'll have to check my sources on this latest post!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 2:11am
I believe it's the Piaggio P.119 in Reply #547
The Piaggio P.119 was an Italian experimental fighter of World War II. It had a relatively novel layout, with a "buried" radial engine mounted mid-fuselage. Only a single prototype was built before the Armistice between Italy and the Allied armed forces, which ended the project.
Click Here
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 4:54pm
Absolutely! I love that front air scoop.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 5:45pm
Yep, a very interesting configuration!  Radial engine no less!
Anyone else got a plane to stump us?  I'll be glad to give my turn to anyone with a mystery plane.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Dec 13th, 2015 at 10:39pm
Ok...here's one for you for Christmas!
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Dec 14th, 2015 at 7:53am
I think it is the:

Stearman XA-21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stearman_XA-21

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Dec 14th, 2015 at 10:16am
WoW that was quick...you are correct Bob.  I'm partial to the observation version.  Here's a picture.
OK Bob, now it's your turn to try to stump us!
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Dec 14th, 2015 at 9:41pm
OK! I know that you guys will get this one in short order.

Bob
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Dec 24th, 2015 at 12:49am
Here is a hint think US aircraft carriers.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 24th, 2015 at 3:47pm
Usually looked like this:

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:14pm
Ian, I am not sure that is the a/c but the radiator and exhaust look similar.

What name do you have?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Dec 24th, 2015 at 8:36pm
The company in question had several models with different engines and tail feathers. It looks a lot like the Jenny, but by a different company. I would rather not identify it, but leave it to someone else this time. You can probably find it by doing a google image search for 1917 biplane

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Dec 28th, 2015 at 10:46am
The USN used it on the USS LANGLEY to test out the theory of aircraft carriers.

And pilot training.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 1st, 2016 at 1:47am
Just to close this one out in 2015, it is an Aeromarine M/39: see http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft25865.htm

Quote:
  In 1917 the Navy placed with the Aeromarine Plane and Motor Company of Keyport, NJ, what was at that time the largest single order for Navy aircraft - 50 of the Model 39-A and 150 39-B trainers. These were conventional two-bay wood and fabric biplanes and could be fitted with wheels or floats. The 39-As used the four-cylinder Hall-Scott A-7A engine of 100 hp and the seaplane versions had twin wooden floats. The 39-B was powered by the 100 hp Curtiss OXX-6 engine, the seaplanes having the single main pontoon with small wingtip floats for stability which the Navy preferred for its training and service seaplanes and was to retain until seaplane trainers were dropped from the inventory in 1960.
  A number of the 39-Bs survived World War I, and two were used for the Navy's early experiments in deck landing. Various types of arrester gear were tried on a dummy carrier deck at Langley Field, Virginia, in 1921. The aeroplane was fitted with the forerunner of the modern hook that engaged the cross-deck arrester cables, while alignment hooks were fitted to the undercarriage to engage longitudinal wires on the deck to keep the machine running straight. In anticipation of forced landings at sea in the course of later operations from shipboard, a hydrovane was fitted ahead of the wheels to prevent nosing over on alighting.
  On October 26, 1922, a 39-B piloted by Lt Cdr Geoffrey DeChevalier, Naval Aviator No.7, made the first landing on the deck of the Navy's first aircraft carrier, the USS Langley, a converted collier. This was nine days after the first take-off had been made in a Vought VE-7.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 1st, 2016 at 10:20am
Ian, you are correct:
Aeromarine 39
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeromarine_39
The Aeromarine 39 was an American two-seat training seaplane ordered by the US Navy in 1917 and built by the Aeromarine Plane and Motor Company of Keyport, New Jersey. Of conventional biplane configuration and construction, the aircraft was designed so that its pontoons could be speedily detached and replaced with wheeled undercarriage for shore operations.

Its over to you now.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 1st, 2016 at 11:49am
OK, this one has been modeled, and there is a plan on HPA by a talented designer.
Both a picture and a 3-view

ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 1:36pm
;D  looks like some thing Hawker would do. ;D
jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 1:42pm
I was thinking Dewotine ::)

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 2nd, 2016 at 3:57pm
Nope, more like Hercule Poirot than Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec.
:D
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 2:44pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  und it its a renard r-38  see pres bruning section of designers.

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 3rd, 2016 at 7:15pm
Yes indeed, Jim, you are correct ... a Belgian design (Poirot despised being called French and always insisted that he was Belgian).
Tag you are it.  :D
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:24pm
ok cloudsters  what's this sukka ? ;D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 14th, 2016 at 11:27pm
Looks kinda like the Fiat G55S but the canopy is different and the wing plan form is a bit different.  I'm still liking some Italian derivative!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 15th, 2016 at 3:14am
;D  YER NOT EVEN WARM!

JIM ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:23pm
Well it does look like the Db 600 series engine but the airframe doesn't look German to me but could be like the Japanese Tony!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:12pm
I think it is the Finnish fighter VL Pyörremyrsky (Hurricane) . I believe that your 3-view was reversed?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VL_Py%C3%B6rremyrsky
Only one was built:
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 16th, 2016 at 4:57am
;D   YER RIGHT FOR 64 STICKS O BALSA!  When were u in FINLAND?  Do u have other pics to share?

jim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 16th, 2016 at 9:59am
Isn't it nice nowadays that you can travel anywhere without leaving your living room? I followed Skypilot's thought about the Tony, but in dong so, I accidentally found a picture of the aircraft. I identified it because of the wheel well covers. I was confused at first about the mirror image placing objects on the wrong side of the aircraft.

Nevertheless, the company that produced this next aircraft also made other very unique planes, some being challenging to build. I also like the look of twin rudder aircraft.

As a further hint: Limited flight testing was carried out ... the prototype was destroyed.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 17th, 2016 at 3:40am
;D  'd like to say payen  but the shape's all wrong.
i might guess it's from MILES>

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 17th, 2016 at 9:02am
The wings look German, the fuse looks French.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 17th, 2016 at 10:00am
Sorry JIM, no. Bigrip74 is half right.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 17th, 2016 at 11:46am
kinda looks like an Arado 79 with  a twin tail.


bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 17th, 2016 at 4:57pm
Right country, wrong company. Not made by Arado Flugzeugwerke.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:32pm
;D  is it a heinkel/

jim ::)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 18th, 2016 at 8:04pm
Nope, not by Ernst's company. Think of lighter aircraft.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 19th, 2016 at 7:55am
I think it is a Messerschmitt (BFW)

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 19th, 2016 at 9:59am
Nope, not one of Emil's designs either. Try lower in the alphabet than Messerschmitt and higher than BMW.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:52am
DORNIER!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 19th, 2016 at 5:48pm
The only thing they have in common is their penchant for numbering aircraft. go higher in the alphabet.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 19th, 2016 at 6:49pm
klemm??????/

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 19th, 2016 at 8:55pm
Klemm is a good guess from the clues, but not the right one. This manufacturer made a lot of different kinds of aircraft for the axis, one of which is highly thought of, but difficult to model.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 21st, 2016 at 5:42am
;D  t junkers?

jim :D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 21st, 2016 at 1:42pm
Lower in the alphabet  :) Originally, it was to be a remote controlled drone!
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 21st, 2016 at 2:57pm
Argus As 292?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:59pm
How about the Fieseler Fi 157
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 12:00am
Very close, it is actually the Fi-158,which is the manned version of the 157. But wasn't it fun getting here? Almost like 20 questions. Fieseler was the maker of the famous Fi 156 Storch, the aircraft alluded to as difficult to model.
OK, Sky9Pilot, its in your hanger now  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 7:32am
Excellent Tom. Ok! Tom. What brought you to you conclusion?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 12:47pm
Well it was a real search for this airplane.  Had me stumped for quite awhile!  Just started with ALL  German aircraft manufacturers of WWII.  Wikipedia search and went through them starting with "A" to "F" when I found the  Fieseler Fi 157, showed this picture.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 12:52pm
O.K. how about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 9:00pm
Looks French. The body reminds me of the Riout 102 T Alerion ornithopter.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 9:05pm
looks like something from Buck Rodgers

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 10:54pm
pb_guy...you're in the right country!

Bob...it is kinda Buck Rogers shaped isn't it!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 12:20am
Contra-rotating rotors!!! Did they ever get it to fly? Or did it self-destruct on run-up?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 12:18pm
Was completed in another country but never run up.  Fear of the blades striking each other was given as the reason.  But was returned to mother country.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 1:14pm
So, a google image search of ... french 1930s helicopter ... confined to B&W led to this site:
http://oldmachinepress.com/2015/03/
Dorand Gyroplane G.20 (G.II)

Quote:
The G.20’s fuselage had a length of 36 ft 4 in (11.08 m) and a height of 10 ft 3 in (3.13 m). The helicopter’s empty weight was 3,086 lb (1,400 kg); normal operating weight was 5,512 lb (2,500 kg), and maximum weight was 6,614 lb (3,000 kg). The G.20’s hover ceiling was 9,843 ft (3,000 m), and it had a maximum ceiling of 16,404 ft (5,000 m). The helicopter’s range was 497 mi (800 km). Its cruise speed was 103 mph (165 km/h), and its maximum speed was 155 mph (250 km/h).

Construction of the G.20 started in Guethary in south-western France, near Spain. When the German Army invaded France in 1940, the helicopter was moved to Chambéry in south-eastern France, near Italy, and construction resumed. By this time, Marcel Vuillerme had taken over the project from Dorand. As the Germans pushed into southern France, the G.20 was discovered. The Germans showed little interest in the helicopter and allowed its construction to continue, albeit slowly.

The G.20 was completed after World War II and underwent ground tests.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:10pm
Well done!
That's it.  The site I found said it was completed in London in 1940. Then given back to France for a museum.  Like my father used to say, "You can't believe everything you read. Paper will lay still and let anyone print anything on it!"  Guess the internet is similar!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:01pm
Congrats Ian [smiley=thumbsup.gif], but you are just too fast you gotta give those of us who are slow a chance :D. Again you are really a whiz at this and I need to see how you come up with your research process.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:28pm
OK. I did give my pattern of searching away in the last post. I depend mostly on search engine image searches by eye, and following the "more" links. I also follow suggested guesses by those more informed than I. That last one took about 3 hours of searching here and there. This next one should be fairly easy for you. I would like to see it modeled one day.

ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 25th, 2016 at 6:23pm
Most unusual trailing edges.  Almost looks like flaperons! I would guess the wing is of an oval pattern as well.  Gonna take some searching for me.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 25th, 2016 at 7:25pm
This might be a better shot.
Ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 25th, 2016 at 10:00pm
The tail looks like a LAIRD product, but I cannot place it.

bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 25th, 2016 at 10:51pm
The fuselage was from a 1920's biplane, not Laird, powered with a 110 hp engine and flew at 135mph. Students from Miami University constructed the prototype from the designer's drawings. There is actually a Youtube video of it in flight!
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:42am
;D arup?
JIM ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 26th, 2016 at 9:27am
There were a few aircraft of this general idea built back then, but this one wasn't designed by a podiatrist.  ;)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:38pm
Nemeth Parasol Umbrella Plane 1934

Sky9pilot
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Post by bigrip74 on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:30pm
Tom, you've had too much time on your hands to look this one up. I could not even get very far, every time i thought that I was on the right track it turned out to not be correct.

GREAT JOB THOUGH [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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Post by pb_guy on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 10:50pm
Yes, and here is the video to show it flying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIFyBU83kME
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjNaW_NQN88
Well done!

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 4th, 2016 at 6:52pm
Ok modelers here's a new one.
Sky9pilot
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Post by bigrip74 on Feb 4th, 2016 at 8:34pm
looks French to me.

bob

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Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 4th, 2016 at 8:38pm
Good eye Bob!

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Post by pb_guy on Feb 5th, 2016 at 12:30am
I would almost have thought english with the chauffeur/pilot out in the wind and the passenger in the enclosed cabin  :D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Feb 19th, 2016 at 8:12am
This a/c has me stumped.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:48pm
There is actually a plan for this one on Outerzone.

Try a google image search for
twin boom french aircraft

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 19th, 2016 at 2:35pm
good lead for finding this one!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RJ on Feb 19th, 2016 at 3:12pm
Potez 75 "Tank Destroyer"?

http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/strange_vehicles/potez_75.html

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 1st, 2016 at 12:22am
Yes indeed, RJ. What have you got for us in the way of a unique aircraft?
ian

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Post by RJ on Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:16am
How about this one?  I wonder if it has been modelled?

Some interesting background info:

"Despite its cartoonish proportions and unconventional layout, (the aircraft) was a clever design which provided a crucial link between propeller-driven aircraft and jet-powered aircraft."

The designer "...had spent much time calculating the best shape for the tunnel and the optimum propeller position and angle. It worked like a venturi tube, compressing the air flow from the propeller and engine exhaust before it exited the tunnel at the rear. Despite what it might look like, it actually made the engine more efficient."

"Initial flights showed that the added lift provided by the airfoil shape of the tube meant the aircraft had a very low landing speed, just 42 mph. It also had a higher rate of climb than comparable aircraft. Because the rudder and elevator were mounted at the back of the tube they benefitted from the extra airflow over them, this gave (the aircraft) extremely stable handling characteristics. Almost too stable, pilots reported that it could be difficult to change direction at times."

"Overall, ... the 'in-tubed propeller' idea worked. However the aircraft was not noticeably better than more conventional aircraft designs. Therefore, after some additional testing, it was decided that no further aircraft would be built."

General characteristics

Crew: 1 or 2
Length: 5.88 m (19 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 14.28 m (46 ft 10 in)
Height: 3 m (9 ft 10 in)
Loaded weight: 800 kg (1,760 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × de Havilland Gipsy III inline piston engine, 120 hp (90kW)
Propellers: 1 propeller, 1 per engine

Performance

Maximum speed: 131 km/h (81 mph)
Landing speed: 68 km/h (42 mph)
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Post by pb_guy on Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:39am
I am continually amazed at how many different airplanes have been designed and actually built over a relatively short period of time. Such a cute idea for a ducted fan! Just think of the drag involved in modeling it.
ian

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Post by jwwasham on Mar 1st, 2016 at 12:55pm
Stipa-Caproni.  1932

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RJ on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:32pm
Bingo! You've got it JW!

Here are links to additional information I was able to dredge up:

The link to the site where I originally found the plane and information about it:
http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/2013/09/stipa-caproni-experimental-aircraft/

This link will take you to a site that displays a 3/5 scale replica built in Australia:
http://www.seqair.com/Hangar/Zuccoli/Legends/Legends.html

The above site has links to plans and drawings, and a 9 ft model built by Don Watson. Here is the link to the page showing the model (Note that it sports a 3.8 cu. in. 2-cycle engine.):
http://www.seqair.com/Hangar/Zuccoli/Legends/DonWatson.html

Finally, here is a link to a short video showing the airplane taking off!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqr2h_xQRk

JW, do you have a unique airplane in mind that you want to try and stump us with?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:33pm
Here's one.

600hp Rolls Conqueror engine.  Tandem main landing gear with outriggers.  And of course, NO TAIL! :D
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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:45pm
Great picture JW...but you want to change the name of the picture before you post it, or it gives away the mystery! 

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 1st, 2016 at 10:09pm
Yeah, I know.  Kinda messed that one up. :-[
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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm
No problem... this one has actually been modeled and was flown at the FAC nationals.  I believe Wally Farrell (correction it was Don Srull) who built it. It was built as electric Free Flight.  Just outstanding.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 1st, 2016 at 10:16pm
It's on my "must build" list. :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:40pm
I believe it's the Westland-Hill Pterodactyl.
Sky9pilot
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Post by jwwasham on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 9:49pm
That's it! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 1:34am
Ok fellas, here's one for you!

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Post by pb_guy on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 2:27am
Interesting wing! It looks like a variant of a Vought product.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 10:37am
Not Vought!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 6:45pm
Wing tips, tail group, and landing gear look like Curtiss stuff.  Still can't identify!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:05pm
that is a Northrup airplane

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 7:16pm
Bob...you are right about that! ;D ;)
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 4th, 2016 at 4:08pm
It must then be a single variant of either a Northrop BT-1 or a Northrop A-17. Some experiment on wing design, especially with those extra props (?) affecting air flow over the wing. Nothing came up in searches so far.
ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 4th, 2016 at 4:19pm
Getting close Ian...

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 4th, 2016 at 4:29pm
I want to say it is a Vought project after Ian's comment.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 4th, 2016 at 6:37pm
Nope not a Vought. It's a single test vehicle.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 5th, 2016 at 11:54am
Finally ran across it doing a google search for northrop a-17 wing airflow
Northrop A-17A with "Laminar Flow Airfoil Glove"
A pic landed me here: http://vintageairphotos.blogspot.ca/2014_10_01_archive.html



Quote:
This photo is an original Douglas Aircraft print (stamp on the back says it's from the El Segundo plant), and there's a hand-written notation that reads "Laminar Flow Airfoil Glove". The plane shown, Northrop A-17A serial 35-122, at some point was turned over to NACA for a laminar flow research program, which was operated out of Langley.

Unfortunately, I could find very little information about the test program (and no other photos of the plane in this configuration), and there are only a few snippets of information about it on the web, one of which mentions that the small added propellers were intended to add airflow over the wing. The primary source for information on NACA's history of laminar flow research is the paper A History of Suction-Type Laminar-Flow Control with Emphasis on Flight Research. Written by pioneering researcher Albert Braslow (who has since, sadly, passed away), this paper makes no mention of tests using the A-17A. The paper, on page 3, implies that the first laminar-flow flight tests took place in 1941 and utilized a surplus B-18 bomber. Either Braslow was unaware of the use of the A-17A (improbable, in my view), or this particular part of the larger research effort yielded little or no data of note. Joe Baugher's database indicates that 35-122 was returned to the Army in August of 1943.

ian

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Post by bigrip74 on Mar 5th, 2016 at 12:04pm
Nice job Ian, and the link was very interesting. Thanks.

bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 5th, 2016 at 1:58pm
OK. I only found 2 photos of this aircraft, although it has been modelled. So I also included one of the model.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 5th, 2016 at 5:11pm
It is either made by Lioré et Olivier, Latécoère, or Levasseur, I cannot find my info on this a/c.

bob

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Post by pb_guy on Mar 5th, 2016 at 7:15pm
Close. Right country at least.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 6th, 2016 at 11:47pm
French Navy markings at least.  Gotta do some research!
how about this: Loire-Nieuport LN.401/LN.411 (LN.40) Carrierborne Dive Bomber

Sky9pilot

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Post by pb_guy on Mar 7th, 2016 at 1:43am
Nailed it again! Interesting lines what with the gull wing, triple rudder and 3-bladed prop.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 7th, 2016 at 7:55am
Good job! Tom, now can you tell me how many were made? (I have no idea)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtM-mYy01Xw

Bob

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 7th, 2016 at 10:26pm
Bob,
might find the answer here: Wikipedia Click Here
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by NcGunny on Mar 11th, 2016 at 2:14pm
I believe that plane used to be modelled from like 4 different kits. The main kit being the Stuka for the wings,its been along time since I have seen one at a show. I believe the last one I saw was in Atlanta and it took a 1st place prize.I do remember guys building them literally had months in a 1/48th scale plane. Comes to mind that at the time one of the donor kits was only manufactured in 1/48. I wonder if its commercially available now from a cottage company?

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Post by NcGunny on Mar 11th, 2016 at 2:21pm
Found it. Special Hobby has a few and they are old kits and priced as antiques..lol. There kits were always junk.
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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 11th, 2016 at 10:32pm
Ok...Here's a new one. 
We enjoyed the French plane and it might make an interesting S&T model. Who's going to design a plan for it?

Can you name this one?
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Post by pb_guy on Mar 12th, 2016 at 1:44am
It reminds me of a homebuilt from about 20 years ago. [later edit: it was the Seawind, but it is not this plane.]
regarding the Loire-Nieuport; I couldn't find a 3-view with fuselage x-sections. To get a proper X-section, one might have to use a plastic model kit, or go by best guess.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by hannair on Mar 12th, 2016 at 4:09pm
How about Burt Rutan's new Skigull?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 12th, 2016 at 10:10pm
That was quick Hannair!  Right on! it is Rutan's SkiGull
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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 14th, 2016 at 8:51pm
OK Hannair...have you got a myster plane for us?
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by hannair on Mar 15th, 2016 at 11:12am
Oops, sorry not at this time - I've enjoyed those that you and others have submitted! 

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm
Alright you mystery plane guru's  here's one for you!!!
Sky9pilot
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Post by RJ on Mar 15th, 2016 at 4:05pm
African?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 15th, 2016 at 9:58pm
AHH! you guys don't play fair. :o I have not seen this a/c in any of my searches. This means that I will have to really LOOK :P. ;D

bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 15th, 2016 at 11:26pm
RJ is on track!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 16th, 2016 at 7:00am
RJ gave it away:
http://www.france24.com/en/20140816-aviation-africa-first-military-aircraft-south-africa

Billed as Africa’s first home-grown military aircraft, the Advanced High-Performance Reconnaissance Light Aircraft (AHRLAC) made its first test flight in South Africa this week, marking a milestone in the continent’s aviation history.

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Post by NcGunny on Mar 16th, 2016 at 11:36am
Wonder if that thing has a mount for a 20mm vulcan?  Lol

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 16th, 2016 at 5:19pm
Don't know about the 20mm but it was designed for some armament.  Right on Bob.  That's it!
What have you got for us?
Sky9pilot

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Post by bigrip74 on Mar 16th, 2016 at 7:27pm
RJ gave it away, so Ill give him first shot at posting.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RJ on Mar 17th, 2016 at 6:59am
OK.  How about this one?  I'd like to model it one day.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 17th, 2016 at 7:11am
Curtiss-Wright XP-55 Ascender
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss-Wright_XP-55_Ascender


BOB

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 17th, 2016 at 10:48am
16" wingspan plan by Earl Stahl
http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2939
A better copy is on the HPA plans site.
ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 17th, 2016 at 4:47pm
Apparently one of the fellas in one of the  FAC (Flying Aces Club) newsletters has built one in jumbo scale at or over 35 inches.  Looked great!
So build it, soon!  I'd love to follow that build!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 18th, 2016 at 8:50pm
I guess I should post a photo:


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Post by jwwasham on Mar 18th, 2016 at 8:57pm
Partenavia P-57

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 18th, 2016 at 9:10pm
You got it jw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partenavia_Fachiro

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 18th, 2016 at 9:43pm
How about this one!
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Post by pb_guy on Mar 18th, 2016 at 11:52pm
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-8 Utka
To see one flying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFmTMHkjPM0

There were a few similar designs;
The Iolaire by Hugh Lorimer
http://www.hughlorimer.co.uk/iolaire_gal/slides/geometry%20check%20assy.html

The Gee Bee model q "ascender"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmjXSUgcNU

and others

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 19th, 2016 at 1:06am
Yep, you got it Ian! 
It was used to test the swept wing, as used on the Mig 15.

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Post by pb_guy on Mar 19th, 2016 at 2:14am
OK. How about this one with a big shnoz??
ian
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Post by JIM on Mar 19th, 2016 at 2:46am
yeah  that's one of the early experimental version of the mig 15.  i saw it in the book about the Mig factory manager's bio. i foret the full designation but it can be easily found if you search Migs.  Written at 5;30 AM AST

JIM ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 19th, 2016 at 8:35am
Mikoyan-Gurevich I-320
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_I-320

Jim, gave it away.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 19th, 2016 at 11:23am
Absolutely. Posted in keeping with the current interest in Migs, and also because it is one of the "uglier" airplanes. Still, it could look quite good as a model, since uniqueness attracts the eye.
ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 19th, 2016 at 12:03pm
Can you imagine trying to see out of that Canopy???  Especially on approach! Hats off to the test pilot!

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Post by bigrip74 on Mar 19th, 2016 at 12:14pm
Another a/c

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Mar 20th, 2016 at 1:47am
;D looks like the douglas world cruiser or similar.

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 20th, 2016 at 7:34am
NOPE! Wrong country.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 20th, 2016 at 8:39am
Clothing looks like Northern Europe, 1920's
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Mar 20th, 2016 at 9:46am
;D yer right  tail is Norwegian colours

JIm ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:43pm
Correct and correct.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 20th, 2016 at 11:38pm
How about this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinens_Flyvebaatfabrikk_M.F.9

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 6:43am
Tom, you are correct. Over to you now.

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:24pm
Ok, this should be an easy one...
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Mar 21st, 2016 at 4:06pm
;D looks british

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 5:13pm

JIM wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 4:06pm:
;D looks british

jim ;D


"DITTO"

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 21st, 2016 at 7:34pm
yep

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:09pm
Short SB.4 Sherpa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_SB.4_Sherpa

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:15pm
That was fast....correct o mun do!

Sky9pilot

Ok Bob, you're up!

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Post by bigrip74 on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 12:13pm
here is one y'all will get fast.

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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:08pm
Looks like another UK aircraft.  All metal fuselage bipe (really big) might make a nice model.  Do you think they got it turned past that other plane???  ;D :D ;)
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:14pm
Looks a lot like the Werkspoor Jumbo which you will find on the list of planes in the other posting.

Quote:
1930s Dutch biplane freighter aircraft design by Joop Carley and built by Werkspoor. Only one aircraft was built (registered PH-AFI) which was sometimes called the Carley Jumbo and was operated by KLM for two years.

see: http://dieselpunks.blogspot.ca/2010/12/first-jumbo.html
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:35pm
I think  pb got it.... bummer it was already on the list.  I'm Gonna have to check the list in the future.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:41pm
I think pb has it!!!  Guess I'll have to check the list before I post a plane in the future!!! Nice catch pb!!!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:56pm
Pb, did it fast. I will need to check the list before I pick an airplane.

Its to you now Pb.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:56pm
Pb, did it fast. I will need to check the list before I pick an airplane.

Its to you now Pb.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 9:06pm
Here's a very special biplane, c/w 3-view.
ian

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 9:45pm
Canadian Car and Foundry FDB-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Car_and_Foundry_FDB-1

bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 11:39pm
You picked that one off very quickly. A 1938 Canadian design.
1945 plan: 12" WS model http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2005
16" WS model from MRA http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=651
Aerofred lists 3 plans: http://aerofred.com/search.php?search_keywords=gregor&search_terms=all&submit=Search
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:15am
I had just been reading on that a/c so no real research on my part. It was just chance.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:39pm
ian, thanks for the links to the plans. I like the looks.

I found this a/c and had never heard of it.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:56pm
Van Lith VI.  Only one known.  French amateur built from the sixties.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 9:07pm
Correct, its now to you JW.


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 9:29pm
You guys are tough, so this is prob'ly an easy one. :)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 9:52pm
Yes, that one is on my design & build list. Let someone else guess.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 10:01pm
NOPE! ian, you call it.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:35am
OK, Transavia PL-12 Airtruk see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transavia_PL-12_Airtruk
model by Pres Bruning: http://flying-models.com/barnstormers/fm_barnstormers_may2011.php
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Mar 24th, 2016 at 1:06am
Here's one, the last of its kind?
ian

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Mar 24th, 2016 at 2:10am
You got it, Ian.  I wanted a real Airtruk back when I could afford to fly, as a private pilot.  It's on my modeling list too.

Don't know the one you posted.  Looks like one of the......... ;)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Mar 24th, 2016 at 5:44am
Waco W Aristocraft.

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Shumaker/10598.htm

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Post by bigrip74 on Mar 24th, 2016 at 6:49am
That was a neat airplane.

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Post by pb_guy on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:27am
Yes, Simpleflyer. Definitely the Aristocraft. Last Waco plane design. A pusher, 4 seater with an attempt to get into the "a plane in every garage" movement just after the war. Got something unusual?
ian

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Post by simpleflyer on Mar 24th, 2016 at 4:00pm
Let's see, how this one will fly?
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Post by jwwasham on Mar 24th, 2016 at 5:05pm
Air Tracktor AT-802u COIN, a former aerial application duster.  Mean looking plane!

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Post by simpleflyer on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:26am
You are correct, WA.  The AT-802 series, IMHO, is perhaps Leland Snow's most successful aircraft.  In addition to being a very capable Ag applicator and COIN aircraft, it is a successful fire bomber, both water and land based.
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Post by simpleflyer on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:59am
Also an AT-802 variant has been successfully used as a fuel delivery vehicle to remote areas in northern Canada.

http://www.airtractor.com/news/2007/11/802-bulk-fuel-tanker
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Post by bigrip74 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:44am
After looking on the link that you provided Al, I noticed they are made here in Olney, TX.

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Post by jwwasham on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:03pm
Here's one.  I think it would make for an interesting model.
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Post by hannair on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11pm
Finally one that I might ID - Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster. Still haven't a good submission for a mistery plane. Ken.

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Post by jwwasham on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:28pm
You got it, Ken.  That was quick! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 25th, 2016 at 10:41pm
There are plans available for the Mixmaster!

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Post by simpleflyer on Mar 25th, 2016 at 10:43pm

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......they are made here in Olney, TX.

Interesting, isn't it, Bob?  The story of Leland Snow, Snow Aeronautical, Air Tractor, and Olney TX are a modern Texas Legend.  It is well documented in the book, " Putting Dreams to Flight ", by Leland Snow and Al Cleave.  Available from Air Tractor for $25 plus postage.http://www.airtractor.com/mediacenter/shopping  (Seems that the URL doesn't go directly to the book but to a page of links.  Go to the column 'Media Center and click on 'shopping' and this should bring you to the book.)
I purchased a copy a year or so back.  It is an excellent read and one of my favorite books. Here are a few interesting paragraphs from a review of the book.

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According to the book, at the early age of seven, Snow not only knew he wanted to fly, but also design and build airplanes. It all started with 10-cent model airplanes. His love of aircraft led him from his south Texas home in Harlingen to Texas A&M where he earned his aeronautical engineering degree. Returning to Harlingen, he started, in earnest, his dream of building the ideal ag-plane.

The book takes you though years of design work, times of little money, disappointment, large and small successes, including interesting part about moving to Olney. The book includes recollections of early Air Tractor partners and how eventually, Leland Snow became its sole owner.

Al Cleave worked with Snow to write “Putting Dreams to Flight”. The cover states, “by Leland Snow, as told to Al Cleave”, I can visualize Cleave, once an ag-pilot, sitting with Snow, taking notes and marveling at the accomplishments of this icon of ag-aviation. Cleave did an excellent job.

Another interesting thing, Al Cleave living in New Braunfels, TX is also a model airplane builder and has drawn a plan for a model of the AT-502B.

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Post by simpleflyer on Mar 25th, 2016 at 11:03pm

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I think it would make for an interesting model.

JW, a 11 inch WS rubber powered FF model designed by Herb Weiss is at:  http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=556 ; BTW, I notice that you are in Oklahoma.  I lived and worked in Tulsa between 1967 and 1970 and enjoyed that area very much.  A bit cold for this southern boy, but a nice city, nice country, and a lot of aviation activity at the time.

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 4th, 2016 at 10:08pm
Thanks Al,
I followed Wout Moerman's build of the XB-42 Mixmaster on SFA when it was viable.  He made a very nice looking model and I added it to my "To Do" list then.  I just downloaded it and hope to get to it in the near future.  Might even enlarge it a bit.  But it won't have contra rotating props unless I can find one of Regallbuto's setups again!
Sky9pilot

If JW doesn't have a new airplane...here's another one that should be pretty easy.
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Post by JIM on Apr 5th, 2016 at 2:52am
this looks like something SHORTS would do

JIM ;D

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 5th, 2016 at 6:30am
it has a massive tail, got no idea.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 5th, 2016 at 9:35am
Looks a little like the Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer.
see: https://travelforaircraft.wordpress.com/2014/01/08/scottish-aviation-twin-pioneer-write/ for a write-up

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Scottish Aviation produced the Twin Pioneer — “Twin Pin” — during the 1950s to meet a need civilian and military operators had for a cargo aircraft with STOL (Short Takeoff and Landing) capabilities.

ian
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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 5th, 2016 at 12:14pm
Pb... that's it! Well done.  Told you it was easy!
Sky9pilot

so what you got for us?

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:00pm
This one is probably on the ugliest airplane lists. Just for a hint, the name sounds like someone vomiting.
ian
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Post by jwwasham on Apr 5th, 2016 at 6:26pm
Someone tell me what that is!  I HAVE to build one!

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 5th, 2016 at 9:03pm
Here is a 3-view so you can start work designing a plan.
Apparently Aerofred has a plan.
ian

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Post by simpleflyer on Apr 5th, 2016 at 10:32pm
JW, the airplane is the PZL Mielec M-15 Belphegor.  A rather strange aircraft.  A multipurpose biplane ag aircraft powered by a turbojet engine.  Attached another drawing showing x-sections and profiles of the fuselage and chemical hopper.  Some info about the M-15 at  http://www.aviastar.org/air/poland/pzl_belphegor.php
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Post by pb_guy on Apr 5th, 2016 at 11:14pm
That was fast. Yes, indeed. The PZL M-15 Belphegor. Built by Poland because they were the best at Ag aircraft and the Russians wanted to retire the Antanov AN's. The first 2 prototypes were flown in 1973 and 74. The Russians were the ones who insisted on the jet engine.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_M-15_Belphegor

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The PZL M-15 is believed to be the world's only jet agricultural plane (e.g., the world's only jet cropduster), the world's only jet biplane and the world's slowest jet, at least as far as aircraft that have been put in mass production.


plan at aerofred: http://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=88826

ian

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Post by jwwasham on Apr 6th, 2016 at 2:28am
Thanks guys!  The weirdness is off the scale by a factor of ten, which makes it perfect for me. :D

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 6th, 2016 at 12:02pm
I think I've seen pictures in the FAC Newsletter of one of the Canadian modelers building one for rapier and one for rubber powered (pusher prop).  The rapier was about 12-14" span and the rubber powered was around 24-27" span.  They both looked great!  If you don't get the FAC NL  I encourage you to invest the $25.00/yr subscription for it every two months. Great articles, info, plans & pictures.
Sky9pilot

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:43pm
Found this walk around video of the PZL M-15 Belphegor Click Here

It's on Mike Stewart's site that there's a picture of Bernard Dion's M-15 Belphegor; picture found about half way down the page Click Here
Sky9pilot

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Post by simpleflyer on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm
How about this old-timer from 1944.  Readily recognized as a B-17.  However, some B-17s were assigned some very unusual roles and given other designations.  What was the designation of this craft and for what was it used?  All gun turrets and unnecessary equipment was removed.  Beneath the aircraft was mounted a modified fuel tank converted to a smoke generator.
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Post by simpleflyer on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:22pm
At least one of these craft was modified as the 'roadster' version [smiley=wink.gif]
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Post by pb_guy on Apr 8th, 2016 at 4:08pm
Did they do that as a joke, or did some poor devil actually fly that monstrosity?
ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 5:14pm
Looks like a modified B-17 to me.  Like someone took the top of the cockpit and rear decking and apparently the nose windows out.  Might have been an in the field modification! And from the looks of the pilot...a German airfield with captured B-17.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 8th, 2016 at 9:12pm
A Very Special B-17 indeed. The Boeing BQ-7 Aphrodite.
see: here
and Operation Aphrodite


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The BQ-7 was filled with about 9000 kg (20000 lb) of Torpex high-explosive and fitted with an impact fuze. During take-off and initial climb, the BQ-7 was manned by a crew of two, a pilot and an engineer. After reaching cruise altitude, the crew pointed the aircraft toward the general direction of the target, activated the remote-control equipment, armed the fuze, and parachuted to the ground. To facilitate bail-out, the B-17's canopy was removed, and the cockpit converted to an open one with a windshield only. The BQ-7 was then controlled from another B-17, modified to CQ-4 configuration, which accompanied the BQ-7 on its way to the target. The formation was completed by a fighter to shoot the BQ-7 down in case of a loss of control. Once the drone was close enough to the target, its controls were locked for a terminal decent, and the control plane turned away. After the first missions, some BQ-7s were fitted with two TV cameras, one in the cockpit to watch the instrument panel, and one obliquely in the nose to watch the flight path over the ground. The TV images were transmitted to the CQ-4, so that visual tracking of the BQ-7 was not necessary, giving the weapon a stand-off capability.


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Of 14 missions flown, none resulted in the successful destruction of a target. Many aircraft lost control and crashed or were shot down by flak, and many pilots were killed. However, a handful of aircraft scored near misses. One notable pilot death was that of Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., the elder brother of future US President John F. Kennedy.

ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 10:06pm
WoW...I had no idea the B-17 was used in this manner.  Guess the pilot wasn't German!  Oops

Very interesting!!!

OK...try this one!
Sky9pilot
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Post by simpleflyer on Apr 9th, 2016 at 11:28pm
Good job, Ian, on finding the BQ-7 and Aphrodite.  Although the BQ-7 failed in its intended goal it was a bold attempt to validate a concept that has evolved into the military UAV which is becoming quite effective.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 11th, 2016 at 11:57am
Snyder "Dirigiplane", later referred to as the Monowing, and finally the Arup S-1.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 11th, 2016 at 12:05pm
This one should be super simple. I could try to fool you by saying that I painted USAF markings on a British Aircraft, but I am sure that you would not be fooled.
ian
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Post by jwwasham on Apr 11th, 2016 at 6:55pm
1944 Cornelius XFG-1  towed glider fuel tanker.  Only 2 built.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 11th, 2016 at 9:46pm
Right. I was only keeping in line with the tailless theme. You should see the biplane I ran across while looking this up. Oh wait, eventually you will  :)
ian

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Post by jwwasham on Apr 12th, 2016 at 8:46pm
Okay, here's another one......
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Post by pb_guy on Apr 13th, 2016 at 12:37am
Cute! The shape reminds me of a bumblebee. (but that isn't the name of the plane)
{quote: "Everything We Do is Driven By You"}
ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 15th, 2016 at 1:22pm
Amazing looking aircraft.  Can't say as I've ever seen this one before!
Sky9pilot

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:00am
Looks French, but that's the only guess I have.

bob

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm
I think it's the Ford FP-15.  Designed around his V-8 engine.
Click Here
Sky9pilot
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Post by jwwasham on Apr 16th, 2016 at 2:53pm
You got it! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  Designed in 1932 but not completed for a few years.  It was damaged in one of the test flights and put away in storage.  Never produced as Ford closed it's Stout Aircraft division because of the depression.  Parts from it were said to be used in an unsuccessful autogyro project.  Very little other info on it.
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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 16th, 2016 at 11:30pm
Well this should be a very easy one....
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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 17th, 2016 at 12:01am
CW 20T Curtiss twin tail airliners version of the C46

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 17th, 2016 at 9:40am
Take care with this one, can be tricky.
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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:40am
You were correct on the Curtiss Gunny!
Sky9pilot

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:37am
That was Bigs guess Sky.

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 17th, 2016 at 5:01pm
My mistake Gunny...usually the guy that guesses get to post the next mystery plane.  Kind of a reward for getting it right!
Sky9pilot

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 17th, 2016 at 8:55pm
Arghh...didnt know..lol!!  --- hands Big a IOU--- okay someone needs to guess this kites name. I was excited cuz I printed off my plans for it this morning.

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:25am
This is a good one...looks like a V8 engine in this bipe.  I also see stripes on the rudder that looks like the allies used in WWI.  Just can't quite make out the vertical fin/rudder.  That usually give the clue to the maker and type, but I don't recognize this one.
Sky9pilot

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:48am
If I remember correctly they never saw and military use. 2 of them starred in a 80's movie and alot of them are used now for acrobatic shows. This 1 looks like the landing gear was modified with that plate. Also if memory serves me correctly..1 was used in a Indiana Jones movie.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 18th, 2016 at 9:42am
The airplane used in the Indiana Jones movie was the  Belgian Stampe SV.4 and that isn't this plane although it is Belgian.
ian

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 18th, 2016 at 1:56pm
This one is a Stampe from France. Although it didnt really say why it was modded and its purpose. Seems every country that bought em ended up modifying them.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:26pm
I believe that it is actually the Stampe et Vertongen RSV.22 or RSV.22/180
see: http://www.belgianaviationnews.be/2013/01/new-datafile-on-belgian-wings-website.html
and: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/other1/rsv22.html
ian

I believe that it is Bigrip's turn now.

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 19th, 2016 at 12:42pm
Yeah its Bigs turn. I didnt realize it was a take your turn posting. :-[

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 20th, 2016 at 7:42pm
Got one for you SMART GUYS

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Post by jwwasham on Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:12pm
Tupolev Tb-5

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 20th, 2016 at 9:38pm
JW you have half of it correct.

Bob

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 21st, 2016 at 12:45am
According to: CCCP military aircraft designations the designations for aircraft were a kind of mix of military designations and designer designations. I would have thought Tupolev as well, but ...

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TB (ТБ) - Tiazholyi Bombardirovshchik (heavy bomber)

    TB-1 - Tupolev ANT-4
    TB-2 - Polikarpov (prototype only)
    TB-3 - Tupolev ANT-6
    TB-4 - Tupolev ANT-16
    TB-5 - Grigorovich
    TB-6 - Tupolev ANT-26
    TB-7 - Tupolev ANT-42 (redesignated Pe-8)

So the TB-5 would be the Grigorovich TB-5
ian

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 21st, 2016 at 7:49pm
I am not sure what to do now that JW and Ian kinda both put this airplane quiz together. (maybe a partnership?)

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Post by jwwasham on Apr 21st, 2016 at 8:49pm
My info said Tupolev Tb-5, so if that is wrong, I don't know what it is. :)  Won't be the first time I was mistaken about something, and I'm certain it won't be the last.  I'm just enjoying the game, and learning a bit along the way.  Some of these planes are really interesting and some I've never seen before.  Whoever can name this one, do so. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

John

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 21st, 2016 at 10:30pm
OK then Ian your it.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 1:07am
Well, I kind of promised this biplane. Very unusual, and perhaps someone knows it already. It has an elevator, but no Stab, and the wings pivot.
ian

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 9:26am
Thats a pic of a 1926 Model 9 Merrill safety plane usually associated with Amelia Earhart. Only packed under 50 hp engine. I did a diorama once for a guy with this plane and her Electra in it. I dont really care about U.S flying history..lol but it stuck out when I saw the tail numbers on it.
Any idea of the guy in the photo? Gotta be a famous racer from that era I bet.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 12:16pm
Yes that is the Merrill C.I.T. 9 Safety Airplane. Somehow, I thought it would take longer to find it, but that is a great reason to know it. I thought that the pilot was Merrill himself.
You can see it flying here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oJtHmghuLs
more info: http://www.aerofiles.com/_ma.html
ian

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 6:57pm
Big can take my turn since I took his..lol Plus I have no intentions of going thru 50 some pages to see whats been posted..lol. ;D
Pb--- I will see if I can find out who that guy is in the photo..trying to use Photoshop to clean up the pic some. I almost am sure I know the pic and he was killed in a take-off (might be landing) in a race that Earhart was in maybe..1928..'29 ish. (Date prolly wrong though)

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 9:09pm
PB listed alphabetically most of all the planes that have been posted.  There are a few of the latest ones that haven't been listed.  EDIT: I tried to update the list today. 
Again a big thanks to PB for all his hard work!

Check em out here
Sky9pilot

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 11:09pm
NOPE! Gunny its your turn Ive had mine and it did not last 2 days. :P

Bob

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Post by JIM on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 8:02am
i have a plane in mind if everyone is game

jim ;D

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 9:44am
Go for it Jim!!!

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 10:08am
Whatcha Got JIM!

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 12:38pm
Let's see it Jim!

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Post by JIM on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 12:51pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  this plane is for real.  i have modeled it and my plane flew better than the original, at least nobody died. oh yeah its not the P40Q!

jim ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 1:13pm
Christmas Bullet

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Post by JIM on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 2:55pm
;D  that was fast. hoppefully it wasn't too easy or is this plane too notorious?

jim 8-) 

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 5:11pm
The Christmas Bullet was mentioned in the Christmas Cookup thread, and it has been a mystery plane in this thread before.
ian

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 6:36pm

pb_guy wrote on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 5:11pm:
The Christmas Bullet was mentioned in the Christmas Cookup thread, and it has been a mystery plane in this thread before.
ian


I remembered this airplane from what Ian is stating and had studied it back in the 60's,


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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 8:55pm
This one was previously posted as well...Westland Dreadnought was #381

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 9:34pm
Ok! Tom Ill read the list before I search and post next time.

YOUR IT!

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 23rd, 2016 at 11:41pm
No problem Bob...I just thought I'd seen it before so I did a little search because I couldn't remember it's name right off!  I needed the reminder!

How's about this one?
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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 24th, 2016 at 12:29am
IMAM Ro.57
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAM_Ro.57

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 25th, 2016 at 11:14am
You got it Bob...that was quick!

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 25th, 2016 at 1:52pm
I have a great one saved for the next time I win 1!!!

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 25th, 2016 at 3:19pm
Welcome to the club Gunny. ;D :D

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 25th, 2016 at 6:01pm
Well I just got a text from Bob...work outside his apt.  knocked out his TV and internet.  So looks like you're up Gunny!!! ;D :D ;)

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:38am
Woot!! Here we go..best view that I came across really, very crazy plane and I know they made a toy model of it that goes for 6 figures when it comes to auction.
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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm
How about the Sopwith Admiralty Type 807 Seaplane
Sky9pilot

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Post by NcGunny on Apr 27th, 2016 at 7:45am
Or just a Sopwith Folder..lol almost all the pics of it (and they are awful pics) just label it as the "Sopwith Folder"
--- Sky, you ever watch the interview on Youtube with Tom Sopwith? Quite the man he was..

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 27th, 2016 at 10:11am
Gunny...I'll have to check that video out.  I haven't seen it yet.

OK, here's another one to hopefully challenge y'all for a while!
Another folder!
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Post by pb_guy on Apr 27th, 2016 at 10:37am
A French design, the LISA Akoya, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISA_Akoya

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... seating two in side-by-side configuration. It is an amphibious aircraft capable of alighting on land, water or snow without adaptation. It has a high aspect ratio folding wing, with trailing edge extensions rather than flaps, and a rear mounted tractor configuration engine.

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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 27th, 2016 at 5:08pm
You're too good PB... that is correct-o-mundo!
Whatcha got for us!
Sky9pilot

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 27th, 2016 at 8:28pm
OK, this one should be fairly easy for a few people, but it looks quite intriguing, and it follows the folding wing idea. It should be easy to model, as it looks like just about any plane after a major crash!  ;D
Ian
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Post by jwwasham on Apr 27th, 2016 at 9:03pm
1941-42 Arado Ar231.  Prototype reccon plane.

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Post by pb_guy on Apr 27th, 2016 at 9:20pm
Yes. It was intended to be carried in submarines, so it had a uniquely asymmetrical wing center section to facilitate folding wing over wing.
see: Aeroscale site
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Apr 28th, 2016 at 6:59am
The one I was gonna post was a very well done fake.  So, let's try this one.
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Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 28th, 2016 at 6:03pm
Well from the looks of her, I think she's either French or Russian.  But I'm probably wrong!  It's the wing motor prop connections that have me befuddled!

Oh...you are sneaky...I think I've found her but I'll let someone else tell us!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Apr 28th, 2016 at 10:04pm
Sneaky, huh?  I think I like that.  (wanders off, chuckling quietly to himself) ;)

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Post by jwwasham on Apr 30th, 2016 at 10:39am
C'mon guys.  This one should be fairly easy!  It's not French or Russian.

  If no one steps up, I think Tom knows. 8-)

Tom?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Apr 30th, 2016 at 11:22am
I have not been able to locate it in my searches so far. I had initially assumed soviet or polish, but it didn't turn up. I searched under tri-motors to no avail. If Tom has it, then good for him.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
ian

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Post by RJ on Apr 30th, 2016 at 3:32pm
No joy here. An amphibious, tri-motor, passenger or transport plane built around the same time as the Ford Trimotor?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Apr 30th, 2016 at 5:57pm
Not an amphib.  Those are just HUGE wheel pants.  I know some young college kids that could live in them! ;D

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Post by bigrip74 on Apr 30th, 2016 at 6:08pm
I was thinking Sikorsky, but not sure. I also was trying to find anything German.

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Post by jwwasham on Apr 30th, 2016 at 8:10pm
Sorry Bob.  Not German either.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 30th, 2016 at 8:24pm
Ok fellas... I called JW sneaky because he went with another FORD product...sure had me fooled for a while.... I'm pretty sure it's the Ford-14at... Click Here
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Post by jwwasham on Apr 30th, 2016 at 8:58pm
Tom is correct. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  Congrats, Sky!!! 

I had no idea this one would be so difficult.  According to what little info is available, only the one was built and it never flew.
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Post by pb_guy on Apr 30th, 2016 at 10:18pm
Apparently they couldn't get it airborne. Perhaps the upper motor was the culprit there. Anyways, they damaged it trying to "horse" it into the air.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 2nd, 2016 at 9:21pm
Ok here's one for you and it's not a Ford!
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Post by RJ on May 3rd, 2016 at 6:15am
Got it I think. A French prototype named "Charpentier C-1"?

An interesting design but apparently not successful.

http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/Fauvel/e_charpentier.htm
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 3rd, 2016 at 1:57pm
That's it RJ...it was before it's time and computer controls for basically a flying wing.  Might be fun to tinker with as a rubber powered model with some reflex in the wing.  Ok RJ...whatcha got for us?
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RJ on May 4th, 2016 at 6:15am
This may be a fairly easy one to identify. The design caught my eye; a descendent of the F4U Corsair? Nah, but this is what occurred to me when I first saw it. :)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 4th, 2016 at 7:39am
Handley Page HP. 80  Victor

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 4th, 2016 at 9:49am
Great looking airplane...part of the British "V" series of bombers of the 1950s and reconfigured to tanker in it's later years.  Saw several come through McClellan AFB in the Sacramento area.  There was a UK detachment for the planes heading to the Pacific areas.  Saw lots of Vulcans as well.  She has a very interesting wing design!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by RJ on May 4th, 2016 at 2:28pm
You've got it simpleflyer!  :)

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Post by simpleflyer on May 4th, 2016 at 8:06pm
Any ideas, S-n-T people, about this neat civilian aerial 'hot-rod' built by Boeing.  Military versions were built for both USN and USAAC.
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Post by simpleflyer on May 4th, 2016 at 8:36pm

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...part of the British "V" series of bombers of the 1950s
  Indeed, Tom, the Victor was one of the 'V bombers'.  My favorite of the trio was the Vulcan.  Had the opportunity to see two of these up close.  Pic #1 at SAC Museum in Nebraska.  Pic #2 at Barksdale AFB Museum in Louisiana. 

One Sunday afternoon at work a Wm Hobby airport in Houston, we had the opportunity and pleasure of seeing one make a brief aerial performance.  Wings over Houston had a Vulcan in attendance at the show and were able to schedule a box of airspace between Wm. Hobby and Ellington field for a short air show for the Vulcan.  To see such a large magnificent aircraft to make a series of low and close in banks and turns was a very memorable experience.
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Post by jwwasham on May 4th, 2016 at 9:20pm
The biplane is a Boeing 100, the civilian version of the P-12.
This particular plane belonged to Milo Burcham for a while, who did airshow work with it in the 1930s.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 4th, 2016 at 10:18pm
Got familiar with the Vulcan and the detachment commander at McClellan AFB in the 70s and visited the base and was given a tour of the Vulcan.  A fantastic aircraft.  The crew would fill the bomb bay with goodies like coffee, tea, cigs, small appliances for the kitchen, all hanging in a net.  Of the five man crew only two had ejection seats, the pilot and co-pilot.  The rest had to exit out the hatch in front of the main nose gear.  Not good for egress on takeoff!!!!  But this big bird could handle and maneuver like a fighter.  Very impressive.  Was able to photograph it on take off, taxi, and landing several times.  Wish I had all those slides converted to digital.  Maybe some day!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 4th, 2016 at 10:29pm
Very good, JW, correct answer and very quick.

Happily, this Boeing 100 still survives at.
https://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/boeing-100p-12f4b

I learned of the Boeing 100 while doing some research on the P-12 series.  Also learned about Milo Burchman while researching Kelly Johnson and "Lullubelle" for a build at:
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1357261759/12
Found Milo to be a talented, brave, and interesting person.
http://www.dmairfield.com/people/burcham_mi/index.html

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 5th, 2016 at 3:42am
yeah neat.  have been to the Boeing museum and saw a parked Vulcan at the Toronto airport  for the airshow here years and years ago.

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 5th, 2016 at 8:45pm
Well, it's not a Ford this time! :)
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Post by pb_guy on May 6th, 2016 at 12:40am
An amazing aircraft, the Rocheville Arctic Tern of 1932
see: 1/72 scratch built display model
There is an article on Rocheville here: http://eaavintage.org/december-2015-mystery/
ian

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Post by jwwasham on May 6th, 2016 at 7:06am
You got it, Ian. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Post by pb_guy on May 6th, 2016 at 11:31am
This is a plane by a fairly well known aviator who even has schools named after him.
Well worth modelling!
ian

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 6th, 2016 at 9:06pm
Kingsford Smith PL-7 Tanker....an ag plane, I believe.
Sky9pilot
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Post by pb_guy on May 7th, 2016 at 1:28am
Absolutely. Another Australian job.
from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsford_Smith_PL.7

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The PL.7 was basically a welded steel tank for the pilot and chemical hopper, on the front was mounted a 400 hp (298 kW) Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah X radial engine. It was an unequal span biplane with a tail unit supported by twin booms from the upper wings and a fixed tricycle landing gear.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 7th, 2016 at 12:36pm
Seems I remember a similar plane in the Mad Max movies? 

Here's another one for you...

Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 7th, 2016 at 2:47pm
1930s. Experimental glider, the Discoplan, designed by M. Sukhanov.  Russian.  In the Russian Federation Air Force Museum at Monino. There is a Youtube video of it flying, but I don't know how to link to it here.
As late as the '70s Sukhanov was experimenting with circular wings to be used for the safe decent of spacecraft, much like our (USA) lifting body tests.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 7th, 2016 at 3:31pm
That was quick JW....you are correct!!! ;D ;)

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Post by jwwasham on May 7th, 2016 at 8:35pm
Let's try this one. ;)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 7th, 2016 at 9:56pm
WWII US NAVY prototype torpedo bomber, just cant remember the type or name.

bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 7th, 2016 at 10:34pm
Naval Aircraft Factory TDN-1 drone

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naval_Aircraft_Factory_TDN-1_drone_in_flight.jpg
2nd pic at
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app1/td.html

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 8th, 2016 at 10:12am
My info says Interstate TDR assault drone, but they look exactly alike so I think they're the same plane.  Probably built by different manufacturers under contract.
Good job Simpleflyer. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  Thanks for the links.  I learned something new today, and that's always a good thing.

John

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Post by Sky9pilot on May 8th, 2016 at 10:53am
Speaking of drones...check out the Navy's new X-47B UCAS Click Here
Sky9pilot

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Post by jwwasham on May 8th, 2016 at 4:16pm
Cool video, Tom. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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Post by bigrip74 on May 8th, 2016 at 9:09pm
That x47 looks a lot like the evil uav in the movie I think along with F/A-18s'

Bob

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Post by simpleflyer on May 9th, 2016 at 1:27am
Thanks, John, for your comment.  Good that the links were of use to you.

Thanks, Tom, for posting the neat video, very impressive.

A couple of snapshots of a homebuilt prototype that a young man made in his early 20s; then built and developed it into a lifetime career.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 11th, 2016 at 4:38pm
I'm thinking it's one of Leland Snow's early crop dusters...but couldn't find any designation.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 11th, 2016 at 11:07pm

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one of Leland Snow's early crop dusters

Very good, Tom, would you like to guess which one?

Another picture of the airplane.  1953,  Austin Texas, just before it's first flight.  23 year old Leland Snow at the plane's left wing.  A remarkable accomplishment.  Leland was going to TX A&M earning an engineering degree, taking off a semester during dusting seasons in Nicaragua and dusting to earn his school money.  In the spare time, he scratch built the wings and fuselage past the firewall.  Nose section was from a Stinson Voyager with a L-5 engine for more power.  Various bits of a scrapped PT-19 were used to finish up the airplane.

Al
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Post by Sky9pilot on May 12th, 2016 at 12:57pm
The only designations I can find are S-1, S-2, S-2a etc.  Yet none of these seem to be the plane you have pictured.  Even the pictures I've found of the plane you posted I can't seem to find a designation for this plane.  Real puzzler!

Just found a YouTube video that names it the Snow S-1 Click Here
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 13th, 2016 at 5:01pm
You're correct, Tom.  Thanks for posting the link to the Air Tractor video.

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 13th, 2016 at 8:24pm
OK....try this one!
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Post by pb_guy on May 13th, 2016 at 10:11pm
Looks expensive. Isn't that parked in your parking space?
ian

Don't I wish Ian :D ;D ;) 8-)

You identified this one fast!
Sky9pilot

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Post by JIM on May 14th, 2016 at 3:24pm
lolike a bede design?

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 14th, 2016 at 9:46pm
Ian...did you delete your post?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 14th, 2016 at 11:30pm
No, I didn't touch anything. It just vanished into the maw of the WWW.
ian
Just to repeat, a Cobalt Valkyrie.
Web page on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_YeVyW5Xlg

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Cobalt is a private aircraft manufacturer, their first model, Valkyrie, is super sleek and built for speed. It’s the fastest in its class (single piston engines), with the ability to travel up to 260 knots, as opposed to the typical 242 knots. It’s also safer than most private planes, according to Cobalt.The craft is canard style, equipped with a forewing to prevent the plane from stalling mid-air, and comes with a five-seater, single-piston engine on the backend for smoother, safer take-offs and landings.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 14th, 2016 at 11:40pm
OK. How about something you could park in your back yard. I wouldn't recommend flying it though.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 15th, 2016 at 2:31pm
hafner rotabuggy from uk

jim :D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 15th, 2016 at 6:38pm
Indeed, so. They only made one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafner_Rotabuggy

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The first trial was conducted on 16 November 1943, with the unit being towed behind a Diamond T lorry, but the lorry could not get enough speed to put the Rotabuggy in the air. A more powerful vehicle, a supercharged 4.5 litre Bentley automobile, was used on 27 November to finally allow the machine to become airborne and in test could obtain glide speeds of 45 mph. Later tests were made towed behind an Armstrong-Whitworth Whitley bomber.

The last test flight occurred in September 1944, where the unit flew for 10 minutes at an altitude of 400 feet (121.9 m) and a speed of 65 mph (105 km/h), after being released by a Whitley bomber...

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 16th, 2016 at 4:06am
ok lets try this one. this concept was only a design proposal .  similar aircraft were built an actually flew marginally.  this suck was modeled by me and flew if it felt like it.  other modelers have modelled and flown its stablemates ;D  .  it has been written up in aviation magazines so have a go at it.

jim ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 17th, 2016 at 10:41pm
It took a while to find this one. There was almost no information to be found.
Either Mitsubishi-Payen pa.400, or Payen/Mitsubishi pa.400
Design project for a delta wing fighter by French designer Roland Payen for Mitsubishi dating from 1938.
from: http://modelarchives.free.fr/Bestiaire/Payen_P400_P/

Quote:
1938 Project: A Roland Payen project following an order from….Mitsubishi . After examining the Pa-112 Prototype, Commander Koshino and Captain Sumikawa ordered a "study" for a carrier-based torpedo bomber with a range of 800 Km. To R. Payen's apparent surprise, the French Air Ministry authorized the release of the documents to the Japanese noting , according to R. Payen (« Pilote Privé n°89 » in 1981) that "this research has little aeronautical interest." This authorization was given on Sept. 28, 1938.
Span : 6,60m
Length : 10 m
Height : 2, 70m
Flight weight : 5860 Kgs with a 800 kgs torpedo and 180 Kgs for internal weapons
Max speed : 580 Km/h with 1340 hp engine.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 18th, 2016 at 3:20am
good for you pb   i knew this would be tough.  i read about this model in the 2003 june (around then) wings/airpower mag. and knew i had to model it.  i took the model to the FAC meet in 2006 and had fun with it.  it flew like a bucking bronco!

jim 8-) ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 18th, 2016 at 11:34am
That one is just weird enough that I'd try to build one!!!!  thanks for posting it!
Any pics of your model?
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 18th, 2016 at 11:46am
  That plane model was probably pretty squirrely in flight. Did you make your own plan for it?

  I don't believe that we have posted one from this manufacturer yet. This testbed (there were variations) was a precursor to a much more famous plane.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 18th, 2016 at 11:53am
Looks like Vought... we'll have to see!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 18th, 2016 at 2:03pm
the p 75 was a mish mash of different planes  am i warm ::)
jim 8-)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 18th, 2016 at 2:05pm
in answer to sky 9  i have a pic somewhere and yes i did my own plan  check with me later.  i will post it on HPA

JIM ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 18th, 2016 at 6:40pm
Vought yes (good catch), Fisher no.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 18th, 2016 at 8:37pm
I believe this is the Vought/Consolidated VS 326 used for engine development. Consolidated took it over because Vought was too busy with the F4U's. The VS 326 which was used as a test bed for P&W engines in development.

Sky9pilot
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Post by pb_guy on May 18th, 2016 at 10:52pm
Right. The VS 326a was the model pictured. It is really interesting because they are all the same basic airframe.
According to:http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1221

Quote:
Vought earned a single prototype contract from USN for the XTBU-1 powered with a P&W X-2800-6 radial engine of 2000 hp.

and according to: http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=18833&start=30

Quote:
...the only XTBU-1 constructed, BuNo 2542, was re-used. When her test flying as a torpedo plane was over, Vought decided to convert her into the V-326 (and later V-326A) high-altitude research aircraft.


I thought that the V-326 was a precursor to the famous Corsair.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 19th, 2016 at 12:04am
Ok fellow modelers try this fairly recent one!!
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by hannair on May 19th, 2016 at 7:05pm
How about a Dornier 328JET -Fairchild? Sorry, I haven't yet learned how to contribute other mystery aircraft.
Ken.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 19th, 2016 at 10:05pm
Hannair...we guess or reveal when we know what plane it is.  He who guesses or knows and reveals the mystery plane gets to post the next mystery plane.

Nope it isn't Dornier or Fairchild...guess again! ;) 8-)
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 20th, 2016 at 6:58pm
a jet version of the herkie bird, c 130?
jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 20th, 2016 at 7:09pm
I'm sure the manufacturer would like for it to be that successful.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 21st, 2016 at 12:57am
Anything to do with the Antonov AN-178 aircraft?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 21st, 2016 at 4:47pm
Nope...look closely at the tail!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 21st, 2016 at 4:54pm
Ken,
I owe you an apology...there is a connection to Dornier.... but that's not who built this one off.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 22nd, 2016 at 8:30pm
There is a logo of a skunk on the tail, which would make it part of the Skunk Works department of Lockheed Martin. They have a page here: http://lockheedmartin.ca/us/products/acca.html
It seems to be called simply ACCA, or Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 23rd, 2016 at 12:21am
Right you are...X-55 ACCA.  I guess Dornier built parts of the  wing and parts of the fuselage and Lockheed did the one off Composite portions of the build to demonstrate the composite construction.  I guess it was never intended for production.

I think Beechcraft was the Composite construction leader, but was too far ahead of it's time for the FAA.  By the time the FAA got through requiring more strengthening etc.  The Starship grew in weight and unnecessary structure that delayed production and reduced performance.  But often that happens to forward thinkers like Burt Rutan and Northrop!

Ok PB...what have you got for us next?
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 23rd, 2016 at 11:16am
OK. This one should be easier for any newbies to find. All you have to do is get by the paint job. All you experienced people stand by for 24 hours and let someone new try to get this one.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by hannair on May 23rd, 2016 at 3:38pm
Hi there "pb" where was this dolled up 330 photographed? - neat paint job!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 23rd, 2016 at 9:36pm
Hi Hannair. Only 5 side windows, so it isn't the stretch version. Give the manufacturer and original model designation and you have it. Then I'll tell you where to find the pics.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 24th, 2016 at 3:50am
that looks like a short bros islander

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 24th, 2016 at 7:34pm
Short Brothers yes, but what is the Islander? Not this particular aircraft.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 24th, 2016 at 9:06pm
They've got one that looks like Nemo from the movie Finding Nemo, too.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 24th, 2016 at 10:03pm
skyvan  its a sky van. somebody else did a short hopper called an islander

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 24th, 2016 at 10:46pm
Yes, the Short SC.7 Skyvan see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_SC.7_Skyvan
flown by Pink Aviation; http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/504528/oe-fdn-pink-aviation-short-sc-7-skyvan/
other pics: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-%28Pink-Aviation/Short-SC-7-3M-400-Skyvan/1414901/L/

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 25th, 2016 at 3:50pm
;D lets try this one. this is my model version

jim :D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 25th, 2016 at 6:06pm
Boeing XF8b.  The "five-in-one fighter.  Never put into production.  Would have been the largest single engine, single seat fighter in the Navy.  R-4360 powered, driving a counter rotating prop.

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 26th, 2016 at 4:38am
yup ;D ;D!

what kept you ::) ::) ::) ::)
jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 27th, 2016 at 7:35pm
Let's try this one.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 27th, 2016 at 9:11pm
1930's Davis D-1W
see: http://www.airminded.net/davis/davis.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_D-1
plans available: http://www.tarvinmodelproducts.com/product_detail/davis.html
comet's version: http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=100
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 27th, 2016 at 9:41pm
Very good, Ian! 

It's a cute little plane.  Takes you right back in time. :)

Ok, you're up.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 27th, 2016 at 9:53pm
This should be fairly easy for a few people.  :)
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 29th, 2016 at 6:04am
Here it is. :)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 29th, 2016 at 9:32am
Yes  :) Tag! You are it now  ;D
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 29th, 2016 at 11:10am
How about this one.  All I can say is, it's interesting! 8-)
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 29th, 2016 at 12:31pm
this is easy  It is a Vickers Wellesley a bomber from the thirtes. i have a plan for that somewhere in my files and recognized it immediately

jim ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 29th, 2016 at 1:27pm
Yep, that's it.

You're up! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 29th, 2016 at 6:40pm
Jim, would you be willing to share that plan?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 30th, 2016 at 4:38am
yes if i had it.  i just remembered its a c/l model done by walter musicano

jim ;D ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 30th, 2016 at 6:10am
look what i found ;D hello kapa collector
now whats this plane?

jim ;D
ps i've designed/modelled the mystery plane and it flies great
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 30th, 2016 at 9:28am
SP-60?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 30th, 2016 at 9:29am
(I mean) Xp-60

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 30th, 2016 at 11:06am
Vickers Wellesley plan
Outerzone has the full size plan available: Click Here
There's also several other plans for the Wellesley.

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 30th, 2016 at 12:51pm
no to xp 60  there were many versions of this design but none of them are this plane

jim ;D


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 30th, 2016 at 7:49pm
How about the Curtiss XP-40Q prototype
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 31st, 2016 at 4:25am
you wish, no!  this is actually earlier than the q

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 31st, 2016 at 10:08am
Perhaps the Curtiss XP-46? It had a belly-mounted radiator.
Or its replacement, the Curtiss model 88?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 31st, 2016 at 12:31pm
no its bigger than the p46  you guys are close but no banana!

jim ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 31st, 2016 at 1:41pm
Well we know it's a Curtiss derivative or prototype of the P-40... :o :D ;D ;) 8-)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 31st, 2016 at 1:47pm
Jim...
You might like these shoes...
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 31st, 2016 at 2:16pm
Looks like the mystery plane is the XP-53, a Curtiss proposal that was cancelled by the USAAF between the XP-46 and and XP-60. 

Interesting sneakers, Tom, are they yours?  However, Norma sorta disagrees with the sentiment proposed, she and her sisters greatly love 'mud bugs'.  BTW, the Brazos has not reached our doorstep, yet.  If it doesn't go up much more than the forecast crest we should be in good shape.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 31st, 2016 at 6:27pm
This is interesting info re: the XP-53 and the Continental XIV-1430 the reason for it's demise. Click Here
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 31st, 2016 at 6:43pm
ye its the xp 53 a great looking fighter and it is a shame that the continental engine failed it ruined the lightning replacement (xp49) as well. my model of the xp 53 flew charmingly as well as he p40Q.(pic shown)

yes those shoes rock! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

JIM ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:59pm
Our 'mysteryplane' choice this time is a revision of North American Aviation's successful Mustang in an attempt to extend its utility in the close air support role.  Fabrication jigs and manufacturing rights were acquired by another manufacturer who built two prototypes under a different model number and name.  Both survive as museum pieces.

Current Brazos River report.  As of today it has crested and pending the next couple of day's rains it is expected to slowly subside and we are still above flood level [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:58pm
Al...glad to hear you're still feet dry, not meaning to be to Cavalier about it.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 1st, 2016 at 11:14pm
Ha Ha! very funny  ;D
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 2nd, 2016 at 8:33pm

Quote:
..glad to hear you're still feet dry, not meaning to be to Cavalier about it.
  Thank you for your comment, Tom, our feet are still dry with respect to the Brazos River, but not so with respect to the water in the backyard.  The ditches continue to fill up as fast as they drain due to the repeated showers.

Also, I didn't take a Cavalier meaning to your comment as David Lindsay had sold the company ten years prior to the new manufacturer building the mystery plane [smiley=wink.gif]

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 5th, 2016 at 9:09am
Piper PA-48 Enforcer.
David Lindsay sold it to Piper in 1971 and closed Cavalier to help develop the plane.

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:23pm
You're correct, John.  It is the Piper PA-48 Enforcer.  A concise yet thorough article by Joe Baugher about the history of this craft can be seen at:
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p51_14.html

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 12th, 2016 at 3:20pm
Sorry for the delay.  Busy times!

Let's try this one. :D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 12th, 2016 at 6:43pm
The Alcor C-6-1
from: https://oldmachinepress.com/2013/10/18/alcor-duo-4-duo-6-and-c-6-1-transports/

Quote:
In February 1937, Allan started a new aviation company: the Alcor Aircraft Corporation. The “Alcor” came from Allan Lockheed Corporation. Alcor’s first official aircraft (the Duo-6 had been built before the company was formed) was the C-6-1 Junior Transport. It was designed to carry six to eight passengers. The C-6-1 used the engine installation of the Duo but with improved C6S-4 Super Buccaneer engines that produced 275 hp (205 kW) at 2,400 rpm for takeoff. Each engine was canted out 4 degrees and the propellers cleared each other by 12 in (0.3 m).
... The C-6-1 was a streamlined aircraft that was very efficient and had excellent flight characteristics.
... The C-6-1 (registered as NX15544) was first flown on 6 March 1938. On a test flight over San Francisco Bay on 27 June 1938, the C-6-1 went out of control during a high-speed dive. Unable to regain control, the pilot and observer bailed out, leaving the sleek C-6-1 to crash into the bay. The aircraft was insured, but the funds were only sufficient to pay off Alcor’s debts. With no capitol, Allan closed out Alcor. Allan continued to be involved in aviation for the rest of his life, but he did not build any further aircraft of his own design.

ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by staubkorb on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:45am
The Alcor would make a nice electric twin...

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09am
You're right, Ian! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:11am
There is a youtube video of this plane. This was built in envy of the Focke-Wulf Fw 189, but too late to enter the war.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:53pm
Very interesting plane...If I didn't know better I'd say it was a derivative of the Northrop P-61...
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:11pm
Nope.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 16th, 2016 at 7:07am
I know what it is, but I was hoping that someone else would take the opportunity and ID it. :-?

John (Ivan)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 16th, 2016 at 10:26am
Ditto what John said.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 16th, 2016 at 11:37am
Если ваше имя Иван то вы наверное знаете кто это сделал.
(If your name is John (Ivan), then you probably know who made it.)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:11pm
Da!

Ivan Ivanovitch
John, son of John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 19th, 2016 at 10:22am
Nobody want's this one, eh!

Sukhoi SU-12.  First designed in late 1943, Pavel Sukhoi developed this blatant copy of the FW-189 through the remainder of WWII.  First flight wasn't until 1947.  Never went into production, partially because engine problems caused it to fail it's performance perameters.

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 19th, 2016 at 5:55pm
Right On.
Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3-EWo7v8DE
See also; http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/museum/su12/
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 20th, 2016 at 9:50pm
Okay, this should be an easy one. ;)

John
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 21st, 2016 at 12:48am
Sticking with the Soviet/Russian theme huh! 8-) ;)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jun 21st, 2016 at 4:00am
detely a DC 3 derivative.  if it is russian it would be an Li 2.  just noticed  a b25 in background

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 21st, 2016 at 12:03pm
Well done, JIM. Yes, a Lisunov Li-2 built under license as a DC-3 copy.
according to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisunov_Li-2

Quote:
A production license was awarded to the government of the USSR on 15 July 1936. Lisunov spent two years at the Douglas Aircraft Company, between November 1936 and April 1939 translating the design. One of the engineers who accompanied him to Douglas was Vladimir Mikhailovich Myasishchev. Design work and production was undertaken at State Aviation Factory 84 in Khimki (now a suburb of Moscow). The Soviet version was given the designation PS-84 - Passazhirskiy Samolyot 84, passenger airplane 84 (i.e. made in GAZ/State Plant No. 84).

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Jun 21st, 2016 at 6:33pm
Yep, JIM, you're correct. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

What might you have for us?

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 5:31am
lets not beat about the bush  whats this plane?

jim ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jun 25th, 2016 at 8:19am
HAVE I GOT YOU GUYS STUMPED? [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif]

JIM ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jdincau on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:39am
MURPHY SR-3500

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:50am
GO WORK, THE MURPHY MOOSE  a kit built bush plane from murphy aircrat in bc my home province

jim :D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:50am

JIM wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:50am:
GOO WORK, THE MURPHY MOOSE  a kit built bush plane from Murphy aircraft in BC my home province

Jim :D


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 25th, 2016 at 12:21pm
And best of all, it is a home built! You buy a kit, and a motor and do all the work yourself. Costs about $150K to finish.
see: http://www.murphyair.com/
and
http://www.bush-planes.com/Murphy-Moose.html
Ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:38pm
Fullsize construction!  Looks like a very nice plane.  Lots of capacity!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jul 18th, 2016 at 2:01am
have we run out of idea guys?

jim ::)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:46pm
Jim,
do you have another for us? Please go ahead and post it!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jul 20th, 2016 at 7:27am
this plane couldn't get past the concept stage because the company went broke.  ithis company coulda woulda shoulda been a star in the transportation business but didn't get it's act together

jim ;D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 20th, 2016 at 5:39pm
Looks like a baby Bell P-39 derivative to me!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jul 20th, 2016 at 5:53pm
nope :D

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:35am
The tail structure looks like Fairey Aviation. The body cross section looks like Fokker. The overall look is European, possibly French or Italian. A really hard one here.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:40pm
no to all yer guesses

hee hee 8-) ;D ;D ;D ;D

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:20am
here's hits;  look i usa fighters ad it ca be googled [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif]

jim ;D 

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 24th, 2016 at 10:57pm
looks like the Tucker XP-57'
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=790

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jul 25th, 2016 at 4:28am
YES  IT IS! HAS ANYONE TRIED TO MODEL THIS PLANE?

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:48pm
This small simple plane was initially built as a jet powered  basic trainer for the US military in 1956.  It was shortly replaced by the T-37 for this role,   so these early trainers were mothballed, only 14 were built.  In the late 1960's about half were bought by civil operators.  A few were refitted with larger engines and stronger wings for external stores for consideration as a counter-insurgency aircraft, but this did not materialize.

Any guesses as to its identity?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jul 28th, 2016 at 12:31pm
i believe that is an L2V BY  LING TEMCO VOUGHT

JIM ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 28th, 2016 at 10:02pm
I've googled LingTemcoVought L2V and can't find the  mystery plane that we posted.  True enough, the initial aircraft was a Temco TT-1, but the re-builder of the mystery A/C was not LTV and they gave it another model number and name.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:34am
I believe it was called the Super Pinto...but the rights were sold to the Philippines: The Self-Reliance Development Wing of the PAF has acquired from American Jet Industries the prototype of the latter company's tandem two-set COIN version of the Temco TT-1 Pinto, together with the works drawings and the rights to the design and production of the aircraft. The Super Pinto, last described in the 1972-73 edition of Jane's, is a light-strike version of the TT-1 trainer, powered by a 12.7 kN (2,850 lbs st) General electric CJ610-4 turbojet engine (in place of the original Turbomeca Marbore) and equipped with six underwing hardpoints for external stores.

Philippine Air Force/American Jet Industries refer to the aircraft as the T-610. Cali
  Found this site with a Pinto posting near the bottom of the page Click Here
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jul 29th, 2016 at 11:21pm
Very good, Tom.  American Jet Industries T-610 is correct.  Also the 'mystery plane' may very well be the one in the Phil AF museum.
http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19046-my-p-40-picture/page-2
Read the conversation beneath the pic.

Pix of the Cali 233 at the PAF museum.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Temco_TT-1_at_Philippine_Air_Force_Museum

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:23pm
Very interesting aircraft...with quite a history as well.  I've been looking at the Pinto TT-1 for quite some time.  Might make a nice EDF in the Super Pinto version.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:57pm
How about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 31st, 2016 at 12:16am
The RP-4 by Dave Rose. See: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/rp-4-airplane.69861/

Quote:
Engines: Two high performance V-8 engines power the RP-4, representing the best compromise among size, weight, power and availability. Tandem mounted, each engine drives its own propeller. The front engine drives the front prop directly and the rear engine, through gearboxes which bypass the front engine, drives the rear prop in contra rotation. Independent fuel and cooling systems allow for single engine operation.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:40am
That's it!!!

What a most unusual aircraft.  It'll be interesting to see if he sets any speed records with it, as he has planned.

Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:41am

Sky9pilot wrote on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:40am:
That's it!!!

What a most unusual aircraft.  It'll be interesting to see if he sets any speed records with it, as he has planned.

Sky9pilot


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 31st, 2016 at 3:11pm
Let's see if anyone can identify this WWII bird from a wreck. If not, I'll post more complete pictures later.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 31st, 2016 at 4:14pm
Looks like she's a Consolidated flying boat to me.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:55pm
Nope, this was a biplane with a tail gunner  :)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Aug 1st, 2016 at 5:28am
SUPERMARINE WALRUS?

JIM

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 1st, 2016 at 11:22am
No tail gunner in that one. This one had 2 engines. Getting hot! But not enough to light the cigar.  :)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 12:35am
Here are 3 flying in formation on the BC coast.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by hannair on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 6:01pm
A little QCA history pb? Do you know the registration of the wreck? Was it savaged? I don't think it is "Skeena Queen" as I believe it was all black when it met it's demise and BXO made it's way to a museum in England. I'll let others ID the aircraft as I've no new aircraft to present.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:22pm
This one appears to be 915 which served with the RCAF until 1945, then sold to Queen Charlotte Airways as CF-BYJ. It crashed in 1949 in Belize Inlet in BC off of the North Coast of Vancouver Island, but remains were recovered. I was unable to find any link to the restoration which is supposed to be taking place in Canada, or at least it was in 2009. It appears to be at the Shearwater Aviation Museum in Nova Scotia
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by hannair on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:41pm
Thank you for the info on -BYJ. There is reference to the recovery in "The Accidental Airline on page 128. The aircraft is supposedly at the Canadian Museum of Flight in Surrey. Thanks for the reply.
Ken.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Aug 28th, 2016 at 4:34am
r  done here?
jim ::)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 28th, 2016 at 4:45pm
While I am waiting for someone to name the aircraft, I have been reading the book "The Accidental Airline". It has a couple of pics of the aircraft in question. It has some interesting notes on some of the places I have lived and visited. The aircraft is the first one my father flew in on coastal patrol during ww2. He said that sometimes someone would crawl out on the tail and slowly increase pressure on the elevator, forcing the pilot to yard back on the yoke until the pressure was suddenly released and they would zoom upwards.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 28th, 2016 at 8:11pm
I just wanted someone else to answer....I believe it's the Supermarine Stranraer and apparently the Canadians built 40 under license.  This is my guess!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 28th, 2016 at 9:24pm
Absolutely. In fact, don't tell the Brits, but the one they have in England was built in Montreal.
Tag. You are it.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 29th, 2016 at 10:49am
OK...here's the next one.
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Aug 30th, 2016 at 3:28pm
the back end says VICKERS VIMY

JIM

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 31st, 2016 at 11:23am
Jim...you're seeing something I'm not!  My records say it's not a Vickers.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 1st, 2016 at 12:02am
Looks more like Handley Page

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 1st, 2016 at 9:37am
No not Handley Page.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 1st, 2016 at 10:04pm
How about the Blackburn R.T.1 Kangaroo Reconnaissance / Torpedo Bomber / Passenger Transport Aircraft (1918)?
cover art for Model Airplane News, August 1965 (note the price!)
http://www.jitterbuzz.com/MAN_1965_08.html
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 12:00pm
THAT'S IT!!! The Blackburn Kangaroo

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:28pm
OK. Back to WWI. I wonder which country made this one ... It didn't serve for very long. A pusher.
Actually, the Swiss one was a redesign of the original, so it isn't the one to identify. I'll remove that pic, and use a different one. Identification of either model is fine. It even had a floatplane version.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:11am
Well, we know it flew with the Germans and the Swiss....what a great arrangement.  This would be quite a challenge to model.  But what an unusual pusher setup!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 3:03am
looks like a pre p 38 to me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
jim ;D

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Post by pb_guy on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 10:50am
They added the extra forward wheels for the training machines, especially for those pilots who would go on to nose draggers.  ;)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 5th, 2016 at 5:59pm
AGO-CII or CI
I believe they also added floats for maritime patrol. The CII had the bigger engine, more horse power.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:12am
Correct. I ran across it at militaryfactory.com while looking up the Blackburn Kangaroo.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 6th, 2016 at 1:11pm
A few more pics of the AGO C-II.  Sure would like to know the colors on the booms of the swiss model.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 7th, 2016 at 1:18am
See: http://uamf.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12053 close to the bottom of the page. The one in the museum looks like natural wood.
ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 7th, 2016 at 9:01pm
Going with a more modern plane this time....
Sky9pilot
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Post by pb_guy on Sep 9th, 2016 at 2:48pm
Anything to do with the Embraer r-99 military versions?
ian

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Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 10th, 2016 at 12:05am
Not Embraer...

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 16th, 2016 at 9:52pm
I stumbled across a picture of this one while looking up modified Boeing 717 variants. It is a military variation based on the Gulfstream G550 CAEW. See: http://defense-update.com/20080724_caew_elta.html

Quote:
  According to Nissim Hadas, general manager of IAI’s Elta Systems, the prime contractor for the program, the new CAEW reflects the company’s advanced systems approach, based on vertically integrated system of systems, based on Elta-unique technologies and know-how developed in-house. The CAEW is a member of a family of new special mission aircraft, which also includes the AISIS airborne integrated SIGINT system and the MARS, an Airborne SAR platform. The first two are already operational with the Israel Air Force and the MARS is also part of the IAF’s long term strategy.
...
The CAEW represents the third generation of phased array airborne radar technology developed at Elta Systems. Elta entered the world of phased array radars in the 1980s, implementing the technology with the Green Pine ballistic missile warning radar (part of the Arrow ATBM system). The same technology packaged as ‘Phalcon’ AEW radar, was installed on a modified Boeing 707 dubbed ‘Condor’, developed for the Chilean air force, which became the first operator of full-size phased array AEW system. This aircraft became operational in the mid 1990s.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 16th, 2016 at 10:14pm
Bingo! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Interesting how a bizjet can be modified for various military use at a much more cost effective solution!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 17th, 2016 at 2:29am
This is one by a very well known designer. This is a variant of a more well known one.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Sep 19th, 2016 at 3:50am
TH LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING AVIATIK WOULD DO

JIM ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 19th, 2016 at 11:34am
Nope. Designer's initials E.H.
I love those tail feathers. They remind me of the 70's cartoon "Dastardly & Muttley in Their Flying Machines" ("Stop that pigeon now!")
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Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 19th, 2016 at 3:12pm
:D ;D ;) [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I remember that cartoon, and you're right about those tail feathers.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 25th, 2016 at 1:02am
Ernst Heinkel...designing for Hansa-Brandenburg

I believe it's the C.1 but not all had the enclosed observer/gunner position.  Some even had a pod on the upper wing giving the pilot a machine gun as well.  I understand that later models had a synchronized gun on the left side of the fuselage firing through the prop.
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 28th, 2016 at 1:16am
Yep, for sure. the C1 here.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 28th, 2016 at 11:42am
Okay....here's one a bit more modern.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:28pm
Anything to do with the Douglas Cloudster II? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Cloudster_II
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 5:09pm
That's her!!! Some interesting designs in the early fifties, both civilian and military!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 7:46pm
There is a plan for this one on Outerzone. Originally published in Aeromodeller, 1956. 20" wingspan rubber powered.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Oct 4th, 2016 at 12:12am
A simpler plan for a smaller model may be found at:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2272035

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 4th, 2016 at 8:13am
PB... that one looks smaller than the Cloudster II hanging there.  Al I'll have to check out the RCgroups plan.
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 4th, 2016 at 9:51am
Yes, Simpleflier, that is indeed the same plane as a profile model, the S-1 Sierra Sue
http://www.wmof.com/Serria%20Sue.html
Model: http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2003
You are up next.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Oct 4th, 2016 at 11:57pm
A variant of one of our favorite COIN aircraft.  It was manufactured in Taiwan.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Oct 5th, 2016 at 5:30am
los like a modified t 28

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Oct 5th, 2016 at 10:48pm
Indeed, Jim, NA did re-engine 3 T-28s with turboprop engines and designated them as the YAT-28E.  One of them unfortunately crashed and the project was stopped.

The mystery plane was built by a Taiwan company who built 50 of this variant in two versions, a trainer and an attack craft.  The aircraft pictured in post #1023 is the attack version.  Any ideas as to the the mfgr and designations of the AC?

Attached are a few illustrations of the YAT-28E.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 6th, 2016 at 11:22am
The AIDC T-CH-1 Chung Hsing was a turboprop-powered military trainer aircraft produced in Taiwan (Republic of China).

Wikipedia has this info Click Here
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Oct 7th, 2016 at 12:14am
Very good, Tom.  More pix of the TCH-1/ACH-1 are at:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:AIDC_T-CH-1

Since you are building a U-2, you may find these of interest:

http://www.historynet.com/dragon-lady-down.htm

http://area51specialprojects.com/u2_hua_blackcats.html

http://roadrunnersinternationale.com/hua.html

Major Hsichun Hua of the ROCAF who successfully crash landed the U-2 at the Cortez, Colorado airport went on to become a General  and commanded the Black Cats of the ROCAF, later retired and obtained a PHD in aeronautical engineering at Purdue.  Worked for Cessna and Lockheed before returning to Taiwan to lead AIDC during the building of the  TCH-1/ACH-1.

Attached are a couple of drawings of the TCH-1.  IMHO, there appears to be a bit of Navion in the plane [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  I think there is a model of  the  ACH-1, sometime in the future.

Looking forward to your mystery plane.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 7th, 2016 at 2:51pm
Thanks Al for the great links...very interesting story of the Taiwan U-2's.

Here's a new plane for y'all to discover, if you don't already know what it is!
Sky9pilot
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by staubkorb on Oct 14th, 2016 at 12:40pm
Here is another interesting aircraft.  Looks like a nice FF candidate!
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Oct 14th, 2016 at 1:54pm
Skypilot's aircraft with its folding wings, turbofans and AEW&C radar dome and similar tail (twin rudders & dihedral) to the Tupolev Tu-2 would likely make it some sort of Russian copy of the Hawkeye. Never seen it before.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 14th, 2016 at 3:03pm
You're in the ballpark, Ian!

Pete...looks like one I've seen in the FAC newsletter.  The shoulder mount wing similar to the Chambermaid would mean pretty good clearance for the rubber motor.  I like the looks of it too!  I think it's called a Bestetti Nardi BN1. Here's a video of the one I'm thinking of at Geneseo Click Here
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by staubkorb on Oct 15th, 2016 at 3:53am
You got it, Tom!

The full-size plane was not successful as it was too unstable and was underpowered.  It was supposed to get two 150hp turbo-charged Alfa Romeo engines, but they were not ready in time, so 115hp ones were used.  Could be flown from either cockpit.  There is actually quite a bit of info about the aircraft, but I haven't run into a good three-view with cross sections. 

Mark Fineman's 36.5" Jumbo modelflies MUCH better than the original and the plan can be found at www.ModelAviation.com in the Plans Service (plan #1063).  How he got the x-sections will require me to re-read the article.  Article and a reduced sized plan is in the July 2012 Model Aviation mag (which I have).

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 8th, 2016 at 11:24pm
So, that russian version of the Hawkeye seems to be a full size mockup Yakovlev Yak-44 according to:
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1170
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:59pm
That's it Ian...Yak -44
That's quite a prop on this bird.  The Hawkeye has an eight bladed prop but this is more like the jet fan!

Would make an interesting model!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:24pm
OK. How about this mystery tri-engined amphibian?
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:21pm
Its a Donier, but not sure of the exact designation.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 10th, 2016 at 12:33am
Yes, it is a Dornier. Should be easy to find now.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 10th, 2016 at 11:13am
Dornier Do 24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_24

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 10th, 2016 at 11:46am
Yes, restored and re-engined in 2004. Recycling at its finest  :)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 10th, 2016 at 12:09pm
What a great airplane/flying boat!!!  Would be fun flying in that off the lakes in the area!!!  Even the Columbia river!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 19th, 2016 at 5:16pm
I guess its me:

can you name this a/c?


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Post by jwwasham on Nov 20th, 2016 at 3:30pm
Armstrong Whitworth AW 15, of Imperial Airways.  G-ABTL

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 20th, 2016 at 3:36pm
You got it, I guess I did not look for one hard enough:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstrong_Whitworth_Atalanta

Over to your now ;)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Nov 20th, 2016 at 5:28pm
Try this one.  Would make a good model. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 20th, 2016 at 6:49pm
I was gonna say that it looks Ruskie, but the landing gear looks mighty familiar.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 20th, 2016 at 10:02pm
Looks a lot like the Caudron C561
see: http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1317241258/3
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Nov 21st, 2016 at 6:56am
Nope.  Bob is close.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:21am
MIG I-200?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 21st, 2016 at 10:39am
1939 Bisnovat SK-1
see: http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/bisnovat_sk-1.php

Quote:
Test flights began in January 1939 with the aircraft on skis, with surprisingly good handling and manoeuvrability as well as excellent performance.

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Nov 21st, 2016 at 12:23pm
You got it, Ian! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

What have you found for us?

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 21st, 2016 at 1:45pm
OK. Keeping with the current theme.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 21st, 2016 at 2:45pm
Bristol type 72 Racer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Racer

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 21st, 2016 at 8:12pm
Yep, fast answer  :)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 21st, 2016 at 10:59pm

pb_guy wrote on Nov 21st, 2016 at 8:12pm:
Yep, fast answer  :)
ian


The only reason I guessed correctly is because I was going through my plans flash drive today and came across that airplane. Just luck.

Ok see what you guys can come up with on this one:


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:46pm
Andrew Smith AJ-2.  Interesting plane.  Was built using a lot of foam and balsa.

Also in the pic,  to the left is the Acrojet team of Corkey Fornof's with BD-5js.  In the air is the Christen Eagle exhibition team, and to the right, an early 70s VW bug convert, complete with the typical sagging rear bumper. ;D

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:48pm
I had not seen the VW. Over to you John.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 5:54pm
Here's one. :)

John
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:49pm
What a great looking airplane: I believe it's the
FMA I.Ae. 37 was a prototype jet fighter developed in Argentina during the 1950s. I don't believe it ever flew!
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:01pm
You got it, Tom!

Looks like mach 10 just sitting there, doesn't it.

To you now.

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:40pm
Fantastic looking airplane. The pilot would have to fly prone, and those wheels look like something scavenged from a shopping cart and a wheelbarrow  :D It is probably a good thing that they didn't try to get it off of the ground.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 24th, 2016 at 12:13pm
Yep the pilot was prone when flying the FMA I.Ae. 37  .  I understand they had a glider version.  You are so right, she looks like she is going at least mach 3 just sitting there.  As with all the early jets, the engines were just under powered.  Makes you wonder what would be if the early jets were just more powerful.  What we'd have seen in the air in the late 40's early 50's.

How's this one.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Nov 24th, 2016 at 2:18pm
Looks a lot like the Zenair CH 701, but i think that it had wing slats.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 24th, 2016 at 5:11pm
You're close but that's not it!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jan 5th, 2017 at 5:12am
have we given up lost interest?

jim ::)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:44am
I think the cookups and holidays have taken their toll for a while.  We'll wait a bit longer and then hopefully we'll be able to move on!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:54am
Zenair STOL CH750?

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 5th, 2017 at 11:00am
Ian...you knew this all along, didn't you?  I appreciate you letting others find it if they can! 
You are correct!!!!  What have you got for us to find?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 5th, 2017 at 12:41pm
This is a design that never made it off the drawing board even into pre-production. I thought that it would make an interesting build after the Piaggio, after the Comet P6e, after the AirTruk ...
  Ask a question and I'll give you a hint. - The design dates back to 1939!
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:16pm
DASSAULT?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 5th, 2017 at 11:18pm
Right country, wrong company.
They built models and put them in a wind tunnel for testing.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 6th, 2017 at 12:54pm
Unusual arrangement!  Would make an interesting model!  I'll keep checking!
tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 6th, 2017 at 2:37pm
The company that was responsible for this design was State-owned; formed by a union of 3 French aircraft companies. They were quite incompetent, as are all government-run companies, since they only produced 4 flying aircraft designs, with only one prototype each. And each failed against the competition from private companies.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 20th, 2017 at 4:53pm
Well, I guess no one else has found this interesting plane.  My understanding is that no prototype was built. Just a wind tunnel model was built.

I believe it's The "Kolko"  SNCAO/Nieuport ACA-5 Click Here
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 20th, 2017 at 5:35pm
That was an ugly concept airplane ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:05am
Absolutely correct Tom. I ran across it when I was getting info on the Loire Nieuport 411. It was interesting that a model kit company actually made a model of it.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 21st, 2017 at 11:20am
OK...here's one for you.
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 21st, 2017 at 9:05pm
Cornelius Mallard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Mallard

http://cloverfield.org/people/cornelius_gw/index.php


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 6:45pm
Boy that was fast Bob!...that's it; whatcha got for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 8:20pm
Tom, that was just timing. I had just seen the photo a couple of months ago.

OK! another one:

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 8:45pm
It is a real cute airplane, I believe it is the Hatz CB-1
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatz_CB-1
Plans available here: http://www.hatzbiplane.com/
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 11:22pm
OK! Ian you are fast and correct, it is now yours what have you got for us?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:34am
This one was involved in a design contest, which it lost.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 1:57am
It is a Czech aircraft Aero A-200,
In 1934, the Czech team started the competition Challenge, which took place in Poland.
Kostek

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 2:03am
Excellent Awiatik!!! You have won the opportunity to post your own mystery aircraft.
You can check the thread "List of Identified Planes" to see if your pick has already been identified.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Feb 24th, 2017 at 3:53am
Hello and welcome to the fun: what kind of plane?
http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p498/classicmodel11/Stick%20tissue_zpsdfu1liob.jpg
Kostek

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:26pm
Aero Ae-45?

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Feb 25th, 2017 at 1:29am

bigrip74 wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:26pm:
Aero Ae-45?

Bob

No. And it is not a Czech plane.
Kostek

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 25th, 2017 at 11:10am
How about the RWD 11
The RWD-11 was a six passenger feeder-liner designed and built in Poland from 1932.
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Feb 25th, 2017 at 12:02pm
Tom,
Very well, so it is RWD-11.
This particular plane starred in: "Dziewczyna szuka milosci"/"Girl looking for love"/, and this movie  has gained a name:WOLA.
Kostek

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 25th, 2017 at 2:01pm
Interesting history on this RWD 11 movie plane. 

How about this one?  Who knows what it is?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by awiatik on Feb 25th, 2017 at 4:33pm
This plane: Tipsy B.
Kostek

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 25th, 2017 at 5:08pm
You got it right off!!!!  Yes Tipsie B.  He sure was showing off in this picture.  That's awfully low to be flying on a wingtip!!!

OK what have you got for us Kostek?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Apr 25th, 2017 at 5:14am
is this topic dead or have we run out of planes?

jim 8-)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:57am
Kostek was supposed to post the next one. But perhaps you have something for us Jim?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Apr 28th, 2017 at 11:35am
OK. Just to pique your interest, This plane had 6 variants, and you can name any of them to get this one right.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 28th, 2017 at 3:14pm
OHHHHHHHHHHHH! I remember this airplane, just cannot remember the name :P

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 28th, 2017 at 3:17pm
GOT IT:

Goodyear Inflatoplane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Inflatoplane

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Apr 28th, 2017 at 8:39pm
Only 3 minutes to jog your memory. Must be some kind of record!!!  :D
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 28th, 2017 at 8:48pm
It is called being LUCKY no other reason. :o

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 29th, 2017 at 2:39pm
Well done Bob... I knew I'd seen that plane before, just couldn't place it!  Whatcha got for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:33pm
I will need a couple of years to find something y'all don't already know ;D

I will look at the list of posted airplanes first.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:42pm
OK! here is an easy one for you geniuses.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:05pm
That looks different! Polish?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 29th, 2017 at 11:07pm
Yep...Polish medium bomber PZL P-30 (LWS-6) Zubr (Bison)
That nose kinda looks like a Bison. ;D :D ;)
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:56pm
i have one ready if u want it. glad to see we are back in action

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:48pm
go for it Jim...
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 1st, 2017 at 12:05am
It was kinda ugly so I thought it would take y'all a couple of minutes. But foiled again, Nice job guys.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 1st, 2017 at 6:24am
ok what's this sucka? :D

jim ;D
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 1st, 2017 at 9:37am
I believe it's the VFW-Focker VAK191B VTOL Experimental Aircraft.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 1st, 2017 at 10:36am
that was quick. and i thought i had something.

jim

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 1st, 2017 at 10:58am
Thanks Jim...those early vtol aircraft were very interesting.  How about this one?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 1st, 2017 at 11:46am
Wow A five wheeled, four prop pusher with retractable nose gear. And a flying wing at that! Where on earth do you find things like that!  :o
(likely something from the desk of Reimar Horten)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 1st, 2017 at 6:30pm
Indeed, the I Ae. 38 in the early 1960s was the last of Reimer Horton's flying wing aircraft.

al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 1st, 2017 at 7:44pm
You got it Al, well done!  Amazing what those German aircraft engineers did even after the war.  I'm sure he would have enjoyed talking with Northrup about those wings! 
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 2nd, 2017 at 8:46pm
Yes, Tom, I can imagine that a conversation between Reimer Horten and Jack Northrop about the building of flying wings would be very interesting.

Here is an attempt by China in the early 1940s to build a fighter to use against the Japanese at that time.

al 
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:18pm
Curtiss Hawk 75a-h  built under license.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 3rd, 2017 at 5:56am
looks like a CAC BOOMERANG

JIM ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on May 4th, 2017 at 12:06am
Close enough, John, actually it's a CHu X-PO, built from scratch based on the Hawk 75A.

al

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 4th, 2017 at 12:51pm
Thanks Al...that was a new one for me.  Ok John whatcha got for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 4th, 2017 at 6:08pm
OK, let's see how this one stands up.  (groan!)

John
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 4th, 2017 at 7:42pm
The Benson B-10
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 4th, 2017 at 7:56pm
Tom, that was too quick. I had not even seen the post yet.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by jwwasham on May 4th, 2017 at 8:44pm
Quick and correct. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

As much as I love the weird and wackey flying machines, I don't think that one is for me.

You're up, Tom.  Good job.

John

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 4th, 2017 at 10:54pm
How about this one fellas?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 5th, 2017 at 1:34am
Looks like something from Burnelli, but it is actually a Bowlus-Criz XCG-16 troop-carrying glider
http://www.indianamilitary.org/FreemanAAF/Aircraft%20-%20American/XCG-16/XCG-16.htm
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 5th, 2017 at 1:36am
Is this it:
General Airborne Transport XCG-16
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Airborne_Transport_XCG-16

OOOPs you beat me Ian by 2 minutes ;D

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 5th, 2017 at 10:56am
You both got it but I do believe Ian beat you by a hair Bob! ;) 8-)
Ok Ian, whatcha got for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 5th, 2017 at 11:24am
OK. These were the only pics that I could find of this plane. Don't expect the Registration numbers to help with this one.  :D
I dare you to get a model to fly with those tail feathers  ;D
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 5th, 2017 at 2:18pm
I believe it's the Cliff Kysor's torpedo plane.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 5th, 2017 at 8:53pm
Absolutely Tom! Very quick ID.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 5th, 2017 at 9:52pm
ok....how about this one?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 7th, 2017 at 9:15pm
No joy here. The thick wing made me think of a flying wing, but nothing found. Engine and glasswork look like Eastern Block 1930's. Probably experimental?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 8th, 2017 at 4:37am
? ::)

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 8th, 2017 at 10:18am
Wow...I can't believe I've found one that has puzzled you guys.  Ian is on the right track.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 12th, 2017 at 9:40pm
OK. Obscure. I ran across this pic on the RCGroups website: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1056371-1930-s-Plywood-Russian-float-bush-plane
and a description in Russian here: http://airspot.ru/catalogue/item/lisichkin-lniai-niai-1-fanera-2

The LK-1 (Leningradskii Kombinat - Leningrad combine), (a.k.a. Fanera-2 – Plywood no.2), (a.k.a. NIAI-1) was a four-seat cabin aircraft designed and built in the USSR from 1933. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIAI_LK-1

The plane was used in the Russian film: "Seven brave", created in 1936 by film director S. Gerasimov,
Its name  "Фанера-2" stands for "Plywood-2". It used an M-ll rotary engine of 100L displacement. It was designed by Lisichkin o the Leningrad Research Institute of Aerotechnics in 1933.
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 12th, 2017 at 10:44pm
You got it PB...well done.  You even found a bit more info that I had.  Thanks!  Your turn!
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 13th, 2017 at 12:11am
This one is not quite as old, but it might make an interesting model. You could run it on the front prop with the rear prop as a free-wheeling dummy.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 13th, 2017 at 12:58am
It looks kinda like the Fokker D.XXIII, but the round wing tips and the one rudder is throwing me off.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 13th, 2017 at 12:30pm
Wrong country. This was built further to the east. It does have a lot of similarity though.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 13th, 2017 at 12:52pm
I wouldn't put this one past the Russians with the vertical fin and rudder in the center of the horizontal stab.  Seems like a very difficult position to activate yet the prop wash would give the rudder some powerful deflective capabilities.  Most interesting configuration!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 13th, 2017 at 6:30pm
Yes, it is the Russkies alright! Очень хорошо, гражданин! (Ochen xhoroshow grazhdaneen! - Very good, Citizen!)  ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 14th, 2017 at 12:18am
Tom, have you found it yet? I cannot find anything so far.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by stancek on May 14th, 2017 at 4:56am
Moskalev SAM-13

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 14th, 2017 at 8:15am
stancek, WOW! I could not find any data or photo on this a/c. Great job.


Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 14th, 2017 at 4:57pm
Yes, Stancek. You get a turn to post something for us now  :)
See: http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/sam-13.html for some 3-views and info.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 23rd, 2017 at 12:57pm
Till Stancek is ready to post one...how about this one?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on May 25th, 2017 at 5:26am
there coming to take me away....HA HA  :D :D :D :D :D

JIM ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 25th, 2017 at 2:48pm
Looks like the Akoya from Lisa Airplanes, France
see: http://lisa-airplanes.com/en/multimedia/
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISA_Akoya
ian

I remember the song, JIM
You can hear the song here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fn36l_z3WY as performed by Jerry Samuels, who called himself Napoleon XIV for the album.
Lyrics:
Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees
and begged you not to leave because I'd go berzerk?
Well, you left me anyhow and the days got worse and worse
and now you see I've gone completely out of my mind.
And - They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time,
and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
and they're coming to take me away ha ha

You thought it was joke and so you laughed,
you laughed when I had said that losing you would make me flip my lid, right?
You know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed, you laughed
and laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad.
And - they're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
They're coming to take me away ha ha...

I cooked your food, I cleaned your house,
and this is how you paid me back for all my kind unselfish loving deeds. Huh?
Well you just wait - they'll find you yet,
and when they do they'll put you in the ASPCA you mangy mutt.
And They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time
and I'll be happy to see those nice men in their clean white coats
They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away Ha Ha Ha

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 25th, 2017 at 3:48pm
You got it PB...well done!
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 25th, 2017 at 5:05pm
I haven't got anything right now. How about if Bigrip74 takes my turn. He was just after me on the last one.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 26th, 2017 at 12:47am
Well! Maybe this one will give you guys a couple of minutes to find it. :o

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 26th, 2017 at 11:08am
Wow, do those wheels seem tiny!
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 26th, 2017 at 11:13am
YEP! look at the outrigger on the wing tips and that skid on the LG.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 26th, 2017 at 11:42am
Looks German WWI era.  Thought maybe Fokker but the nose is all wrong for Fokker.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 26th, 2017 at 12:58pm
Not a Fokker, wrong country.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on May 26th, 2017 at 1:31pm
Gear and skids do remind me of the early Avro's.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on May 26th, 2017 at 2:58pm
Ian...I think you already know what this one is!!!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on May 26th, 2017 at 6:35pm
Ian, you have the correct country and builder.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 2nd, 2017 at 10:52am
I believe it's the Avro Type G...
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 2nd, 2017 at 1:27pm
You got it Tom [smiley=thumbsup.gif]. Thats the first time Ive ever had one go more than a couple of seconds.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 2nd, 2017 at 4:42pm
Well done Bob... mine usually go fast too, but usually a litter longer than a few seconds! ;D ;)

How about this one?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 12:07am
Ive seen this a/c, just cannot remember where! ::)

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 1:46am
Italian?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 5:33am
me to is it swedish. or maybe the prototype for the ASSENDER?

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:32am
ian is in the ballpark...

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:36am
The Ambrosini SS.4 ? See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrosini_SS.4

Quote:
The SAI-Ambrosini SS.4 was an Italian fighter prototype developed in the late 1930s, featuring a canard-style wing layout and a 'pusher' propeller. Development of the SS.4 was abandoned after the prototype crashed on its second flight.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:38am
Well done...that's it!  So whatcha got for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:52am
OK. Back to WWI. I found this one just a few days ago, and was intrigued. Country of origin should be obvious and it shouldn't take too long to find it. Here is a snippet of what was written about it:

Quote:
It was not yet possible to fire straight ahead if the gun was mounted on the cowling in front of the pilot because of the propeller and I thought it best to mount a Lewis gun on a scarf ring on top of the centre plane, firing above the propeller and permitting a wide angle of fire as well. I hoped for a speed of 100 mph and at that speed the battering of the slipstream on a gunner standing up to fire would have made it difficult to aim accurately; therefore he must be protected. So I enclosed both pilot and gunner in a glazed structure filling the space between the top of the fuselage and the underside of the upper centre plane, many years before pilots had anything other than a windscreen to protect them.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 4th, 2017 at 11:31pm
This was in a magazine I was reading last week, if only I could remember which one. :(

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 5th, 2017 at 11:12am
What an interesting design! I like it!  It took me a while to find it!  But I'd like someone else to post....so I'm waiting.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 5th, 2017 at 11:51am
There is a rubber powered 28" W/S plan available for this one.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:12am
Sage Type 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_Type_2

y'all, gave me too much time to find it ;D since you both knew what it was.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 6th, 2017 at 11:08am
Right On Bob! And here is a link to the plan on Outerzone: Sage Type 2 Plan
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 6th, 2017 at 12:31pm
I think that is where I saw the airplane.

OK! wants to post the next mystery plane?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 6th, 2017 at 3:27pm
Ok fellas this should be an easy one!
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:05pm
Someone else can ID this one. It is on my "one day" list. Pres Bruning and another designer have peanut plans on HPA.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Jun 10th, 2017 at 5:31am
mamboussin?

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 10th, 2017 at 12:54pm
Right country Jim!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 10th, 2017 at 6:52pm
Arsenal-Delanne 10

Nev

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 10th, 2017 at 7:54pm
Close enough... Arsenal Delanne type 20T.

what have you got for us Nev?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 10th, 2017 at 9:12pm
Plans:
21" W/S http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5405
25" W/S http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=801
Pres Bruning's peanut: http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/details.php?image_id=1139&mode=search
Dominique deLaunay's peanut: http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/details.php?image_id=4548&mode=search
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 11th, 2017 at 4:01am
Sorry for the delay in posting but I haven't posted here for a long time and I had to go thru the whole thread to check what had been posted.
This one hasn't appeared yet
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 12th, 2017 at 9:19pm
Schroeder Cyclogyro.... built in San Francisco?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 14th, 2017 at 3:00pm
The concept of cyclogyros is interesting. See: Cyclogyros
It seems that the power to weight ratio required for them to succeed in flight exceeds that of helicopters, so until recently, there have not been any successful prototypes. The only prototypes that work so far are models. From the University of Maryland See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDhlehsYiGc for a 2 rotor model. It needs an additional prop to counter the torque. Another model by U of M uses a quad rotor design with counter-rotating rotors to counteract torque. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzUzeu5OoHk
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 14th, 2017 at 6:45pm
Very interesting videos...Not sure I'd want to ride in a full size version.  That would be a lot of mass rotating there!  Like the early machines, one coming apart would be a very nasty happening!
Thanks for the videos!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 15th, 2017 at 1:55am
Spot on with the Schroeder!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 15th, 2017 at 12:22pm
Ok modelers, how about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 15th, 2017 at 7:47pm
And no, it isn't a Trojan of any kind.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by yotabota on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:14pm
Looks to small for a Trojan but has the lines of something built by North American, the tail is P-51ish.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:26pm
Fairchild XNQ aka T-31

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_XNQ

If memory serves me accurately, Whitman produced a S-n-T kit of this airplane around 1950 of so.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:49pm
You got it Al...well done.  So what has your archive got for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 15th, 2017 at 11:51pm
A little over a month back, Norma and I were able to Louisiana to visit family, there.  While there we had the opportunity to visit the Chennault museum.  Adjacent to the museum is a restoration facility that refurbish aircraft to put on display.  We were able to visit the facility again and found the item below.

The aircraft was built by one of America's long time builders of civil and military aircraft.  The design pictured was built over 33 years and over 9,000 copies were made.  Can anyone identify the specific model/identity of the aircraft.  Only 6 of this aircraft were built in 1940 and sold to an Asian ally of the US.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 15th, 2017 at 11:57pm
We visited the facility two years prior in Feb, 2015 and the mystery plane was being prepared for painting.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 16th, 2017 at 1:35am
Looks like a Beechcraft Model 18, exported as the Beech Expeditor 3NM
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 16th, 2017 at 4:41am
Looks more like a Beech Kansan than an Expediter

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 16th, 2017 at 1:58pm
Good replies, Ian and Kiwi.  The airframe used for the construction of the replica of the mystery plane was from a Navy Beech 18.  The gentleman showing me the plane mentioned the Navy designation as a SNB5.  The mystery plane was built some years earlier than the airframe used for the replica so they had to make some improvisations and guesses in the replica's construction.

Geoff Goodall lists the mystery plane in his warbird directory (Beech 18 - prewar  civial and military serials list). 

Pic of our hospitable and informative guide and a couple more of the mystery plane.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 16th, 2017 at 2:52pm
So it is apparently a Beech-45 converted to represent the Beech AT-11 M-18R belonging to Chennault of Flying Tigers fame.
from: http://kedm.org/post/warbird-restored-chennault-museum-unveils-ww-ii-bomber#stream/0

Quote:
A piece of aviation history has been restored. The Chennault Aviation & Military museum’s aircraft restoration group unveiled the Beech AT-11 M-18R in a ceremony at the Chennault hangar Thursday.   The restored 1944 Navy plane, originally a Beech-45, was converted into the warbird.  Restoration Director Jerry Smith located the aircraft more than a decade ago.  "I found it at the Reserve (La.) Airport.  It was totally disassembled, we moved it up here, and began to put back together," he said. The plane was secured by a donation from Sidney White.  Volunteers and supporters gave thousand of man hours in restoring the light World War II bomber. Smith says the Beech 18’s connection to Gen. Claire Chennault was an inspiration during the project. "It was given to him by Chinese president Chiang Kai-shek.  He had six, gave one to Chennault.  He used it to support the P-40's, the Flying Tigers, in China.  His pilot, he flew supplies to the Chinese between combat missions," said Smith. The plane will be on public display in the field next to the Chennault hangar.

I think that Kiwi has this one. I was way too far off.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 16th, 2017 at 3:52pm
Correct, Ian.  The replica is a Beech M18R,

http://www.goodall.com.au/beech18-production/beech18-part-1.pdf

Page 15,  construction #379

XY-AAL was the civil registration number on the Beech M18R while based in Burma(Myanmar).

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 16th, 2017 at 4:32pm
Btw, a Beech model 45 is the T-34 Mentor. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_T-34_Mentor

Don't believe everything that is in the 'fake news'  [smiley=wink.gif] even wiki.  However, wiki does their best to keep their stuff correct.

Al

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by simpleflyer on Jun 16th, 2017 at 5:06pm
Here are some low-def and small pix copped from the Google cloud.  As far as I can determine they are of an actual BE-M18R.

Al
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:22pm
OK, how about this rather cute little flying boat?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:26pm
By the way, the Beech C-45 is the Expiditer.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 16th, 2017 at 8:20pm
Kiwi, it is a Saunders Roe A.19  Cloud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saro_Cloud

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 16th, 2017 at 8:41pm
No doubt a British flying boat...probably a Saunders Roe early boat.  I like the looks of her!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 16th, 2017 at 10:48pm
Close, but no cigar!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 17th, 2017 at 12:52am
Saro Cutty Sark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saro_Cutty_Sark

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jun 17th, 2017 at 4:50am
Thats the one Bigrip 74!

The one shown was the sole example operated by the New Zealand Air Force

Serial -c/n- Fate L3 A17/3 The third of the twelve SARO Cutty Sarks to be built, this aircraft's first flight was at Cowes, Isle of Man on 03 March 1930. Final inspection approval was granted 10 March 1930. Aircraft was dismantled and packed in crates and left for New Zealand aboard "SS Mataroa" on 14 March 1930. Arrived Auckland 10 May 1930 and barged to Hobsonville. Assembled between the 16 and 28 May 1930 and taken on first flight in New Zealand by Squadron Leader Isitt at 10 a.m. on 14 June 1930. Witdrawn from service on 01 June 1934 with total flying time of 92 hours 10 minutes, for extensive overhaul. Test flown after overhaul on 13 and 14 November 1934. Final flight 23 November 1936 after which the aircraft was stripped for inspection. It was considered to be beyond repair and written off. Used as instructional airframe from 1937 and scrapped at Hobsonville in late 1930s. During it's service career L3 logged a total of 221 Hours and 5 minutes flying time.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 10:03pm
Sorry guy's, Ill look up an a/c fast.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 4th, 2017 at 8:47pm
While we are waiting for Bob, this shouldn't take too long to find. This is from the Golden Age of airliners. I love that cockpit!!!
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jul 4th, 2017 at 9:34pm
Dehavilland Dove:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Dove

Sorry for the delay Ill have one up in an hour.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jul 4th, 2017 at 9:40pm
Found one, lets see how many seconds it takes.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 5th, 2017 at 3:43am
Looks French or Russian to me!!!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jul 5th, 2017 at 8:37am
Not French or Russian , but a country between.

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 5th, 2017 at 12:36pm
Still searching!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 6th, 2017 at 4:07am
Its the French Potez 41  (I posted it on post #148, sorry)
FOUR-MOTOR NIGHT BOMBER. Photographed in 1933, immediately after final erection, but before service roundels applied, is this "one-off" French prototype, the Potez Type 41 Bn4, which was succeeded by the later Potez Type 54. The two pairs of pylon-mounted Hispano-Suiza 12 Ybrs engines delivered a total of 3,360 h.p., giving a max. speed of 199 m.p.h. for a.u.w. of 37,480 lb. at 13,120 ft. Its undercarriage was retractable.


Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jul 6th, 2017 at 11:09am
Kiwi its to you now.
It was supposed to be the PZL.3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL.3

Looks like the image I saved was the wrong one.



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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 7th, 2017 at 5:17pm
OK, what about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 7th, 2017 at 6:39pm
At first the engine reminded me of Kinner, but no joy there. I thought that I had seen that tail structure somewhere and looked at WWI profiles - good site here for that: http://wwiaviation.com/gallery-britian.html but no joy there. In the end, I accidentally hit upon this site http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/sopwith2.html which identified it as a Sopwith Snark.

Quote:
Late WWI fighter prototype, a triplane with an ABC Dragonfly engine. The Snark had a wooden monocoque fuselage. For its time very, it carried heavy armament. Apart from having a disastrous engine, the Snark also suffered from structural problems. Three built.


See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Snark
there is no pic, but there is more info on design and development.

So - Sopwith Snark
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 7th, 2017 at 8:26pm
Spot on, Ian :)

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 7th, 2017 at 10:59pm
This is a one-off, French, and first flew in 1954. Last flew in 1971 and was put in an air museum with only 130 flight hours on it.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 7th, 2017 at 11:52pm
I believe it's the Hirsch-MAéRC H-100 in the Musee de l'Air.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 8th, 2017 at 1:22am
Yes, indeed Tom. That was fast.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 8th, 2017 at 11:07am
OK...how's about this one?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 8th, 2017 at 6:30pm
#1223 is the Beljavev DB-LK

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 8th, 2017 at 8:27pm
I have a different spelling but seems to be the same plane...Belyayev DB-LK (“long-range bomber - flying wing”)  O.K. Kiwi...what ya got for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 8th, 2017 at 10:00pm
This one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 9th, 2017 at 1:26am
Looks a lot like a Bristol Blenheim Mk I
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 9th, 2017 at 3:55am
No, this is a Bristol Blenheim Mk 1 [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by MKelly on Jul 9th, 2017 at 11:02am
Miles Monitor, I think.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 9th, 2017 at 4:45pm
Thats right, it was a high speed target tug but contract was cancelled with the end of the war and only 20 were built, these were used by the Royal Navy,

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by MKelly on Jul 9th, 2017 at 5:09pm
OK - how about this?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 9th, 2017 at 9:24pm
A Hall Cicada Racing Aircraft, similar to the Bulldog, but never raced so far as I know. Ratz posted a 3-view in the HPA plans section a few years ago. The wings actually have a little sweepback which isn't shown on the 3-view, but you can see it on the one listed here: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?621105-Hall-Bulldog-in-1-6-scale
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by MKelly on Jul 9th, 2017 at 10:30pm
Correct - Cicada designed by Robert Hall and built by Springfield Aircraft, Inc. for Frank Lynch.  According to Kinert's book, Bob Hall raced the Cicada at Niagara Falls in 1932.  Cicada was present for the 1932 Cleveland races but did not compete due to engine trouble.  Shortly after the Cleveland races Lynch clipped a hangar on takeoff at Bowles-Agawam airport; the aircraft crashed and burned.

This one was new to me when I got Kinert's book, and caught my eye with the unusual color scheme.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 9th, 2017 at 10:34pm
I figured it was a Hall design.  I couldn't find anything but the Bulldog.  Nice to see the answer.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 9th, 2017 at 11:20pm
How about this twin?
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 10th, 2017 at 1:37am
Looks like a Swiss Schlepp or a Potez aircraft but haven't been able to find it!!!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 10th, 2017 at 4:28am
#1235 is the Bolkhovitinov S

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 10th, 2017 at 11:01am
Yes, also known as the Bolkhovitinov Sparka.
See: https://oldmachinepress.com/2013/05/24/bolkhovitinov-s-2m-103-sparka/
He also did a single engine version.
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 10th, 2017 at 4:28pm
Another
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jul 10th, 2017 at 11:55pm
Looks like a Blackburn a/c.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 10th, 2017 at 11:57pm
sorry-No, not built by Blackburn

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:21am
I was thinking Bolton Paul...
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:37am
No, wasn't them either

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 11th, 2017 at 8:47am
It does have a fair resemblance to the Sikorsky S-29-A?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 11th, 2017 at 9:22pm

pb_guy wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 8:47am:
It does have a fair resemblance to the Sikorsky S-29-A?
ian

Given the markings on it,  most unlikely [smiley=smiley.gif]

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:25pm
This one is a problem. I don't believe that it is WWI at all. Possibly 1920's? Have a hint for us?
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:53am
First flew June 1929, only two were built, one remained in service until 1936, the other was sold in March 1935 and was broken up in 1942

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 15th, 2017 at 11:00am
De Havilland D.H.67/Gloster AS31 Survey

When the Aircraft Operating Company acting on behalf of the Ordnance Survey requested a replacement fr their D.H.9's they approached De Havilland. The requirement was for an all metal aircraft that could operate from land and on floats and could maintain a level flight at 9,000 ft fully loaded on one engine. De Havilland designed the D.H.67, but as a company they were far too busy with production of the Hercules and the Moth so passed the project over to Gloster as A.S.31 Survey. It made it's first flight in June 1929 and was handed over to the Air Operating Company on 25th January 1930. It was used to survey Rhodesia and later South Africa. It was later sold to the South African Air Force and used for aerial surveys until it was broken up at Waterkloof in December 1942. One other model was built for the Air Ministry and used by the R.A.E. at Farnborough until 1936.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Jul 15th, 2017 at 3:14pm
Good catch. I couldn't find it listed under any aircraft in the RAF, so I was puzzled that they had the roundels. Apparently there is a model plan of it - Peanut Scale! -  by Fillion http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1436
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 15th, 2017 at 3:50pm
Thats the one, looking forward to the next challenge.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:53pm
Ok, how about this one?
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 16th, 2017 at 4:19am
Spartan Cruiser?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:07am
WOW! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] kiwi, I was still looking for a junkers.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 16th, 2017 at 4:04pm
Yep it's the spartan cruiser!  Well done. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 16th, 2017 at 4:57pm
Perhaps I need to slow down to give others a shot?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 16th, 2017 at 5:25pm
Tough picture to tell exact specifications but I believe it's the Saunders-Roe A.33
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:16pm
Thats it.

The Saro A.33 was built to the same Air Ministry Specification (R.2/33) as the Short Sunderland - calling for a long-range reconnaissance and patrol flying-boat. The contract for one prototype (K4773) was placed in 1934-35 and construction started late in 1936. The A.33 was completed in September 1938 and the first taxi-ing trials were carried out on 10th, 11th and 12th October. On 14th October the A.33 was airborne for the first time, at an all-up-weight of 31,000 lb. After some half a dozen flights, K4773 was seriously damaged through "porpoising" at high-speed in the Solent. As the result of a heavy hull/water impact, the fabric-covered, all-metal wing failed in torsion at a position in line with the inner starboard Perseus. The starboard wing then twisted about the single main spar and the starboard inner airscrew ripped into the hull and sponson, while detached structure damaged the tail assembly. As the damage was above the water-line, the A.33 did not sink and it was towed back to the East Cowes slipway.
This unique British example of the sponson flying-boat was not repaired
The wing failed after the aircraft hit the wake of a Southampton ferry while on a take-off run, the A.33 began to porpoise severely,
porpoising was a problem with the aircraft, the A.33 leapt into the air and came down out of control in a stalled condition. At impact
the wing failed in torsion at a point inline with the starboard inner engine which caused the starboard leading edge to pivot around
the single-spar driving the propeller into the fuselage and sponson, missing designer Henry Knowler by inches.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Jul 24th, 2017 at 5:51pm
While we are waiting for Tom's contribution here is another ugly one for you all.
Nev
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 25th, 2017 at 2:33pm
My bad...let's run with Kiwi's...
This reminds me of the Short Seamew
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by stancek on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:04am
Il-20 ,
I'm sorry, but I do not speak English

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 26th, 2017 at 10:30am
Yes Stancek...that's it.  Have you got another mystery plane for us?
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 19th, 2017 at 6:13pm
looks like Stancek hasn't got one for us so how about this one?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 20th, 2017 at 1:05am
Puget Pacific Wheelair see: http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/puget_wheelair.php AKA Wheelair IIIA
(designed and built in the Pacific Northwest)
ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 20th, 2017 at 2:01am
Well done, it was one of those "planes of tomorrow" so beloved of Popular Mechanics and was aimed at the post war market which never materialised. Company went bankrupt in 1949 waiting for tomorrow. Only 2 were built

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 20th, 2017 at 4:47pm
OK, this is an historic aircraft. A 'one off' that never flew for a very important reason. And, this is the only known photo of the original.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 20th, 2017 at 8:12pm
Thats the "Colditz thingy" was part of an escape attempt for two people from the Colditz POW Camp Oflag IV-C whereby it would be launched from the attic Using a bath tub full of rubble as a launching weight and fly off across the the River Mulde and land on the other side, the Castle was liberated before the attempt was made.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colditz_thingy
Saw a large model of it when I visited the Castle in 1996
Silly website won't let me use the proper name. It was named after a male fowl (starting Co**)but the site keeps changing it ti "thingy" Feel sorry for any poultry lovers out there!

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by LASTWOODSMAN on Aug 20th, 2017 at 8:57pm
"Colditz thingy" works on my Wikipedia   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colditz_thingy ;  - let's not erase history here - do we now have to change Cocker Spaniel, and Woodcock, and cockbird (male) Pheasant now ?? LOL sheeeesh !!!  Sad ...
LWM

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by LASTWOODSMAN on Aug 20th, 2017 at 8:58pm
Well look at that !!  - it DOES change it on my REPLY !!! ... ?????
LWM

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 21st, 2017 at 12:25am
Yes, it is the Colditz glider. Nova did a show on Colditz called the Nazi Prison Escape where they showed the building of the glider, and the actual area where it was built in Colditz. See: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/naziprison/glid_building.html
They did save the plans of the original glider that they worked from.
By the way, it is also known as the Goldfinch Glider, after the designer.
ian


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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by LASTWOODSMAN on Aug 21st, 2017 at 8:16am
VERY INTERESTING !  - and look at that nice hand printing on the plan - a VERY LOST ART  !!!
LWM

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by MKelly on Aug 21st, 2017 at 9:54am
Very interesting - that would make a neat subject for the new FAC scale glider event.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 21st, 2017 at 3:21pm
Here's another one for you

Following on from the Colditz "thingy" ,do pilots now occupy the thingypit?
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 12:05pm
I believe it's the Short SB4 Sherpa.
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Kiwi on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 3:32pm
Yep, thats it, built in the 50s to test the aero-isoclinic wing configuration

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 9:50pm
Ok fellas, how about this one...
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by bigrip74 on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 11:25am
Ahhh! Come on Tom! Ill never figure this one  ;D

Bob

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 11:42am
Ha Ha Ha!  Apparently it had trouble with a barbed wire fence at the end of the runway! :-[ :-/ :'( :D ;)
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by MKelly on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 12:13pm
Is it coming or going?

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 4:24pm
Not a lot of info on it. 1935 Joy Jx. see: http://www.shu-aero.com/AeroPhotos_Shu_Aero/Aircraft_J/Joy/index.html
Built by Ervin & Lyle Joy, Joy Aircraft Co, Portland OR. Two 40hp Salmson AD-9, nine-cylinder radial
"... didn't make it past the barbed-wire fence at the end of the airport. Pilot Monastes was unhurt, but that couldn't be said for his flapjack."

ian

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 4:42pm
Alright Ian...you got it!  Whatcha got for us!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 24th, 2017 at 1:02am
I'm going to try a bit of misdirection here. So please forgive me ahead of time.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 24th, 2017 at 1:18pm
Curtiss-Kirkham 18T... Fastest triplane/plane of it's time apparently.  Engine was the fore runner of Curtiss' Conqueror engine!
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:36pm
Absolutely. I just added the German markings for confusion. There is a 3-view, but I don't see swept wings on the first pic, but it shows on this one.
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 24th, 2017 at 4:46pm
How about this one!
Tom
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by LASTWOODSMAN on Aug 24th, 2017 at 9:37pm
One of Clement Ader's "Avion" planes ?  No?
LWM

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 25th, 2017 at 1:29am
No that's not it!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Aug 31st, 2017 at 8:04pm
Based on the steam powered designs of the late 1800's. The Goupil Duck built by Curtiss.
See: http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft29118.htm
I ran across it while looking for steam powered aircraft designs.

Quote:
In 1916 Curtiss built this Duck from the 1883 design of Alexander Goupil in his continuing effort to invalidate the Wright patent. It was first flown as a seaplane
The Goupil Duck was transferred to the Curtiss facility at Newport News and continued its flights there as a landplane.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 31st, 2017 at 8:45pm
That's it PB... you're up!
Tom

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by pb_guy on Sep 1st, 2017 at 11:58am
How about this cute little racer?
ian
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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by JIM on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 1:49am
that looks similar to the dayton racer

jim ;D

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 11:48am
Great old picture....but I just had to get the tear out of it.  So a little photoshop and here she is!
Tom

PS I still haven't found this one!!! A real mystery!!!
But looks like someone shrunk the Curtiss Kirkham T-18.

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Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by John Webster on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 3:47am
That's the Curtiss Cactus Kitten which finished second in the 1921 Pulitzer Trophy race.

Title: Re: Can you name this plane?
Post by LASTWOODSMAN on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 7:26am
Yep - the Curtiss Cox Cactus Kitten 2   -  only one was made 

  http://www.wings-aviation.ch/21-USNavy/Curtiss-Cox/Cactus-Kitten.htm

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_Cox_Racer

     "In 1920 the American oil millionaire S.Cox had two specialised racing monoplanes built for him by the Curtiss Aeroplane and Motor Company to take part in the Gordon Bennett Trophy race to be held in France in September 1920.[1] The two aircraft, named Texas Wildcat and Cactus Kitten, were single-engined, braced, high-wing monoplanes powered by a 427 hp (318 kW) Curtiss C-12 inline piston engine.[1] They had streamlined wooden fuselages with the pilot sitting in an enclosed cockpit towards the rear of the fuselage, under a forward sliding canopy. The wing, which had a special double camber airfoil section, was high-mounted, and was braced by struts to the mainwheels of the fixed conventional landing gear. The V-12 engine drove a two-bladed tractor propeller, and was cooled by radiators mounted on the side of the fuselage between the cockpit and the wings.[2]"

plus, this guy modeled one   

http://wingsofintent.blogspot.ca/2016/03/scratchbuilt-172nd-curtiss-cactus.html

LWM