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Message started by simpleflyer on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 11:52pm

Title: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 11:52pm
As we begin the 12th 'Simple-Swinger' and the wingspan reaches 50 inches, we've decided to start a separate thread for this group of swing control models.

The 'Simple-Swingers' began from a modified Comet Phantom Flash that we built for the Comet model cook-up back in January of 2014.

The picture shows the first 3 Simple-Swingers.  Left is the modified Phantom Flash built for the Comet  cookup.  Middle is SS-2 with a modified wing from a Comet GoldWing.  Right is a generic simplefied wing mounted in the mid-wing location on a two part fuselage which became the common format for the SS series.  The wings of the Phantom Flash and modified GoldWing were mounted on top of the fuselage.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 12:20am
The next Simple-Swinger SS-16 had a wingspan of 16 inches and used strip wood ribs.  Construction is at:
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273164221/285
Messages 290 to 298.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 12:36am
Now we moved to longer wings. SS-24 used a wing from a plan for a Comet Firefly with a wing span of 24 inches.  Built at:
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273164221/315
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 12:46am
SS-30PF had the wing from a Comet kit of the Phantom Fury. The wing undercamber was removed and the wingspan was  30 inches.  Build at:
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273164221/33
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 1:05am
In our younger years we were impressed with the simplicity of the wings of some of the Jetco models and had acquired a bunch of these over the years.  So we tried thse next for the SS series.

SS-24JH used the wing from a Jetco Hawk kit.  The SS-24JH wingspan was 24 inches.  Build at:
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273164221/360
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 1:13am
Using left over ribs from the Jetco Hawk and cutting some extra simplex ribs the wing of SS-36JTC was extended to 36 inches.  For the wing we used a plan from a Jetco Thermic-C that we had tried to build a long time ago and didn't finish.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 1:28am
The wings from the Comet and Guillows CloudBuster and FlyBoy are simple and were very successful in many of our earlier swing control models so we decided to try them in the Simple-Swinger series.  This past Christmas we bought some CloudBuster and FlyBoy laser-cut rib sets from Guillows for a present to myself.  The new ribs are a pleasure to work with.

So one of the Guillows Cloudbuster ribsets was used in SS-25CB the wing was straightened out and built at 25 inches wingspan.  Build at:
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273164221/390
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 1:47am
We still had a set of diecut ribs from an old Comet Meteor which is the same as the Comet Cloud Buster.  We cut some extra ribs using The Meteor ribs as patterns and extended the wing span out to 40 inches and built the SS-40.  Build at:

http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273164221/405
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 1:59am
Recently, the SS-24LTV was built.  A quick scratch-built profile model of the XQM-93 drone built by LTV.  Build at:
http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273164221/435
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 2:38am
This brings us up to date on our latest Simple-Swinger.  Again we return to our stash of Jetco kits.  This is the Jetco Thermic 50-X which will become the basis for the SS-50. 

The Therfic 50-X was originally designed by Frank Zaic.  He formed a company called JASCO(Junior Aeronautical Supply Co) and sold model supplies, plans, books and models under that brand.  He sold the company to his sister Christine and she changed the co to C.A. Zaic and the kits were branded Jetco.  She hired Frank Ehling to simplify and modernize the Thermic series.  This simplicity of the models is what attracted me to them.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 2:45am
Die-cut ribs are punched and sorted.  There shapes are traced to cardboard to be used for patterns to cut ribs for future Thermic 50 wings.  Die-cutting was good but parts are not numbered.  A bit of model building skill is helpful.  Kit scrap will be used for in-fill on the F-100.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 2:59am
Wing was traced to tracing paper and construction started. 
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 4th, 2015 at 8:23pm
Outstanding Al,

Love the shape of the wing for the Thermic 50X...looks like your swing models are growing in span!

Very nice.  I'll be following this build with interest.  Reminds me of a glider I was looking into when I was in RC. But it's span was 6'. 
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 4th, 2015 at 11:10pm
Thank you, Tom, for your comment.  You are correct , Frank Zaic designed a Thernic 72 that had a 6 ' wingspan.  It was kitted and sold by JASCO and JETCO.  Outerzone has plans for both. 
JASCO  Thermic 72 is at:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1579
This is the original as designed by Frank Zaic.

Jetco Thermic 72 is at:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=4627
This is the redesign by Frank Ehling of the Zaic plan.

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Sep 5th, 2015 at 11:14pm
Shaped and sanded the wing-tips and trailing edges of the outer panels.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 10:55pm
Thanks to Bill Parker we have received the inspiration to build the SS-72, the 6 foot wing-spanned 'Simple Swinger'.  Bill has given me the Cleveland Condor that the built a few months ago.  It is a very nicely built model and we are going to try to fly the wing of the Condor as a swing controlled model.  Upon receiving the model and looking it over, we decided that it would be better to build a new fuselage and tail for it to make it a swinger.  The model was built with a removable wing and tail for transportation.  Even so it was a bit of a challenge to bring to our home in Norma's Malibu.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm
Removing the rubber bands the model breaks down into three parts:  wing, fuselage, and tail assembly.  While figuring out a new fuse and tail for the SS-72, we decided to play around with the rest of the Condor.  The horizontal tail looked like that it could be swinger in itself.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:13pm
The tail spans 22 inches.  Putting a new center section looked like it would be easy enough to fit to another of our existing SS fleet.  So the vertical was separated from the horizontal tail.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:16pm
The Condor has a double rib at mid-span, so we were able to separate the halves easy enough with our trusty razor saw.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:26pm
The mid-ribs were traced to cardboard and a couple of new ribs were cut from 1/8 balsa.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:36pm
The ribs are spaced 3/16 of an inch apart and glued to a piece of cross grained 1/16.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:43pm
The tips of the stab halves were raised and glued to the center rib assembly to form a dihedral.  Some damage was noticed at the front of the left stab half, be we elected not to repair it at this time and just applied extra glue and hope it would hold together for a test flight or two.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:44pm
Presto, a new simple-swinger wing.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:49pm
Fits just right on a SS-24 PF fuse and tail.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 20th, 2015 at 11:59pm
Test flights went well until a sudden gust forced an unplanned abrupt landing and the left wing parted company with the rest of the craft.  Back to the shop for repairs and more figuring on how to attack the SS-72 wing.  Just as well, weather for the next week is scheduled to be scattered thundershowers.

Merry Christmas to all,

Al
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by staubkorb on Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:47am
It hurts to see a Condor cut up, but your results make it quite bearable ;).

I had the Cleveland kit (thanks Dad) back in the 50's but never built it - it was rather intimidating for a ten year old - even tho I already had a number of builds under the belt.  It got lost in a move :(.  Always on my mind to replace it and the version offered by AHC (America's Hobby Center) was finally purchased in '67 when we moved back to NY, built, and flown in Flushing Meadow Park with single channel escapement radio.  Folded the wing TWICE in the middle while hand towing (dihedral joints butt-glued) before I added ply braces.  Finally destroyed it while attempting a high-start launch - the fuselage wasn't up to the grip needed...

My build another as I have the plan, but...

The Cleveland version is really MUCH nicer looking with the curvy tail bits.

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by Sky9pilot on Dec 21st, 2015 at 11:54am
Bummer about the crash.  But looks repairable!  Love the planform of the wing.  Hope you get her back together and back flying soon. 
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:45pm
Thank you, Pete and Tom, for your comments.  We were reluctant to cut up the Condor.  Bill gave it to me to try and fly it.  With our limited access to an area where we could fly such a large bird with towline or a catapult, we decided to try and fly it as a swing control model.  We believe that this is possible but we shall have to modify the components and fly them separately.

The SS-22CC can be fixed easily and flown again, but the challenge is time.  During the holidays it is busy and so much other stuff going on.

Cleveland has plans for two versions of the Condor at:
http://www.clevelandairline.com/CM/CATALOG.shtml
When the catalog page  comes up, click on the category - Cleveland Free Flight , Soarers, and Gliders.   The plan for the 72 inch Condor is $10, and Cleveland has a 30 % discount on plan orders (except 1/6 scale plans and 1/4 scale plans) until January 31, 2016. 

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by bigrip74 on Dec 23rd, 2015 at 7:36am
Al, this is a great reuse of an old airplane that will fly again [smiley=thumbsup.gif]it gives a new light on those parts of wings, tails, and parts in what Pete calls a DUSTBIN.

bOB

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 23rd, 2015 at 11:27pm
Thank you for your comment, Bob.  This exercise of reconstituting the Condor into the different 'simple-swingers' is becoming a satisfying and challenging experience.  May you have a Happy Christmas and a good new year.
Al

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 14th, 2016 at 7:57pm
This past spring we modified a few of the Simple Swinger fuselages so that their parts could be interchangeable with each other.  Mainly this consisted of trimming the pointy parts of the tail booms and matching the nose parts so they would all fit each other.  Also we made a thinner fuselage for the LTV-450 swinger.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:12pm
In an attempt to beat the upcoming rain showers we took a trio of the long winged Simple Swingers for a short flight session on a short line.

First the SS-24 with a skinny fuselage.

Next the SS-32.

And lastly the SS-40. 

All flew despite variable light gusts and threatening clouds.  Now, rain showers have set in for a few days.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Oct 28th, 2016 at 4:15am
Al
Your catching my attention on these swingers. Looks like easy fun. What ever happened to that Thermic 50 you started? I love the look of that wing. Downloaded and printed plans for a Cloudbuster. Thinking about putting it together. Can't find a cheap fishing pole. And refuse to spend good money on a new one. I know there has to be one somewhere just laying around. If you could use it, sure take it kind of deal. I've been looking for about 2 months now. I thought up here in the northeast, on a calm winter morning, it may not be rc, but at least I could get some air under my wings in the back yard. If I could find that pole already, that would get me motivated.

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Oct 28th, 2016 at 3:38pm
Al
I'M HOOKED. Looks like my previous post brought me luck. After work, my Barber had a 7' lenght of bamboo above the garage. Shot upstairs and dug the two shown planes out. Hooked up the yellow one to about 8' of line. Don't remember what this even was? Went out in the back yard, took a swing, and it imediately took to the air. It is heavy, the pole and line could not be much longer, or it would had taken some real effort to keep it going. Hooked up the silver (arrowhead), and it was just a floater. Next to zero effort was needed to fly this one. Could have easily had a longer pole and string. A little to much speed, and the Arrowhead just climbed. Thinking of gluing a lenght of 1/4" dowel in the end of the bamboo. The Cloudbuster is hitting the building board this weekend. Maybe tonight. Thanks for the inspiration. I'M HOOKED.
Dave
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Oct 28th, 2016 at 10:37pm
Thank you, Dave, for your posts and picture.  It is good to hear of your swinging experience.  Glad that you were able to find a pole.  It really is a cheap and easy way to do some flying, isn't it?  I'm glad that your two models worked out OK.  Tell us more about the yellow one.  It looks like a Cessna CE-165 Airmaster, or one of that family.  I saw the Airmaster pictured below at an airshow in Tulsa OK in 1967 and thought it to be a beautiful aircraft.  Been hoping to build a model of it some day.  Is yours from a plan , kit or scratch?  The Thermic 50 wing has been laid aside for awhile, hope to return to it before long.  Been busy with indoors/outdoors chores lately with little time for flying & building.  Your Cloudbuster looks like a fine model for swing control.  Keep us posted on your progress and how it flys.

Al
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Oct 29th, 2016 at 2:46am
Al
It was about 5 years ago I had gone thru some serious health problems. It was suggested to me to take up a hobby to distract myself from what was going on. Model aviation got me thru some really tough times. I had grown up with C/L and free flight till about my late twenties. So I had a stash of stuff up in the attic. The yellow one was the first one I built just for the fun of it. It was a kit that I think was in a blue and white box. Those were Comets I believe. You may be right, I might remember Cessna being on the box. I probably bought it just because it had a radial in the front of it. Radials are cool. Only airplane I ever built that the CG turned out just fine just building the model only as is. Did zero adjustments to it. Took it out in the back yard, gave it a little toss to test it. And it imediately nosed into the ground and broke the prop. Glued the prop back together just so it could all be one piece. I don't know if I ever had goals of this one to really succeed at a free flight. And it just sat upstairs till yesterday. Think I am going to take the prop and rubber out of it, balance as necessary, and just use it as a swinger. Put some windows and decals on it now that it actually flies. It did look pretty cool in the air. Plus because it was a little heavy, it put up with the wind better. Then at the end of my 3rd swing with it, the wind grabbed it and shoved it into the ground. Broke the prop off again. It was techincally too windy yesterday. But just had to try. The silver Arrowhead was built from scratch, from plans from Outerzone. Well, it's the start of my day, got a Cloudbuster to build. I'll send you guys updates.

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Oct 31st, 2016 at 2:21pm
Maidened the Cloudbuster and she flies like a dream. Ready for a longer pole and more string. She is still a work in progress. Thought I would take a picture before she's done. This is why I can't build small, because I will never learn. Built the lower fin out of 1/4", instead of 1/16", because it was easier to just cut it out with the shape of the fuselage. And because it added weight. Built the horo stab out of 1/8" slab, so it could add more weight. Then built the vert stab out of 1/8", instead of 1/16", so I could add more weight. Then when I'm done, I strap a brick to the front of it to get it back in balance. The weight you see on the front is also on the other side. I will never learn. I think I read once, for every oz of weight added to the tail, it takes 3 oz's on the nose to counteract it.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Oct 31st, 2016 at 2:35pm
Added a wing cradle and dowels for rubber band mount of the wing, so I could add weight. Going to add these covers on the nose, so I can cover the bricks I have glued to the front. Going to shape these to give it that fat front end look. Here I was able to add weight and drag. And I put a plate under the wingtip with different hole locations, so I can adjust my attach point. C/L er's do an adjustable leadout, so I thought I would give it a try. Plus I got to add weight. Maybe you can see the theme here, this is why I build 48" wingspans and up. Need a longer pole. What's the secret for a cheap long pole. And thanks Al, now I have to trim that brush in the back yard, that I have successfully put off for 5 years now, so I can expand my flying. Will send further picture when done.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 10:56pm
Your Cloudbuster is looking good, Dave.  The sturdy structure should allow flying in breezy conditions and help reduce damage during unplanned encounters with the ground.

I should have been using a heftier plane during a flying session yesterday.  Recently, I've been practicing to fly with an 8 foot fly rod and reel given to me.  I'm looking forward to being able to alter the flight circle diameter while flying the model.  The 40 inch wing span swinger was being used and even light breezes were a bit of a challenge during yesterday's session.  Note the abrupt nose down trajectory in the last pic in the series below.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 4th, 2016 at 2:53am
Yeouch!!!! Hope that last pic didn't result in much damage.  Y'all are really getting the juices flowing here.  I've got to get me a pole and get some of these wall hangers in the air!
Tom

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Nov 4th, 2016 at 5:38am
Al
Hope all turned out well for you. One good thing about crashes, it gives me a good exscuse to build another airplane. :D Cloudbuster is all done. And she flies like a dream. Just love this sport. From thought of wishing I were flying, to flying, is about 2 minutes. Walk downstairs and out the back door. And hoping to also be able to fly in the dead of the winter. Was thinking about building an electric rc version of a vintage gull wing design, the GULLIVER. I may also just build one with a slab fuselage, to use as a swinger. Just love the gull wings. Just wondering, because of the very low fuselage of the GULLIVER, and the high gull wing. If she would fly crooked in the sky? But they use those wire extensions on C/L ers to lower the leadouts? Maybe that's the trick. Any thoughts out there?
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Nov 4th, 2016 at 6:26am
Just discovered that inside loops are easy to do. Directly overhead or out horozontal. Got to keep the power up. And recovery is a bit tricky. I have an appoint to get to shortly, got to go. But wondering, would I be able to transfer the beginning/start of an inside loop to inverted flight? I am going to try. Put fishing swivels at the end of the pole, along with at the plane. Now the loops do not twist up the line. Although, if I did some outside loops, that would untwist the line? I see a very good reason to build a new airplane brewing here. Just love this sport. Thanks for the inspiration Al. And although not streneous, this does qualify as exersize. Doing repetative loops and wingovers gets the heart going. Got to keep the speed up.

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Nov 5th, 2016 at 9:45pm
Thank you, Dave and Tom for your comments.  Although, we had a few unexpected landings due to the gusty conditions.  The damage from these events was minor and easily repaired and the model is back in good flying condition.  Dave, your Cloudbuster is a fine looking airplane and very colorful.  I'm glad that it is a good flyer for you. 

With respect to your concern on the Gulliver's gull wing and low forward fuselage, I think that you are probably right that the string attachment point may need to extend down a bit per C/L practice as you suggest.  On the other hand, since the outer panels appear to be relatively flat it may be worth a try to just connect the line at the wing tip as normal.  My experience, so far, is that the worst outcome would be that of the outer wing flying too high or too low in relation to the inboard wing.  In this case maybe a simple trim tab or warp put in the outer wing panel might even things out :-/

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:30pm
This afternoon, Norma and I made a couple of short training flights with the SS-40.  A while back we bought a simple :-/ FUJI digital camera to supplant our aged Kodak.  It has more modern video capability and we're trying to learn to make better videos.  These two videos are today's result.:
https://youtu.be/w0OwOtw31qc
https://youtu.be/-njvuMwz6iw
It was a pretty dark day, so we will try for a more sunny day next time.  Also we are trying to fly by turning around in a circle to follow the model, so the flights a bit short.  We try to end them before we get too dizzy and fall ;)

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:05pm
Outstanding!!!! Well done Al and Norma!!!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] That's such a relaxing looking airplane and flies so gracefully!
Tom

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by bigrip74 on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:25pm
Al, that was the first video of a swing flight for me and I liked what I saw. I now see how its done, what type of pole are you using?

Bob

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:46am
Thank you, Tom and Bob, for your comments. 

Yes, Tom, the SS-40 is a wonderful slow flying gentle craft, its main short-coming is its sensitivity to windy or gusty air.

Bob, I'm glad that you liked the videos.  The swing control modes are quite simple and easy to fly.  In these videos, a 8 foot fly fishing pole is being used.  It is a gift from my sister.

Al

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by DAVE Q on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:18pm
Al
Just wanted to let you know, I have been really enjoying this hobby. I have been out flying many times now. It is so hard to get to the rc field sometimes, but it is so easy to walk out the back door and get a little air time in the back yard tether flying. I know I mentioned building a GULLIVER, for rc and tether, but I'm struggling with building 2 of the same airplane. There's a Guillows Spirit of ST Louis upstairs that I am now considering. This is a perfect opportunity for this kit. I don't know which airplane I like better, the red Cloudbuster is heavier/faster, and handles the wind better. But the yellow Cessna is just a floater. It's kind of fun to just fly slow. This Spirit of ST Louis is all stick and tissue, so I guess will end up to be a floater also. And for the record, I was having back/shoulder problems because of sitting at a computer using a mouse all day. Doing this tether flying, and exercising my rt arm/shoulder, has all but eliminated my back problems. Thanks again for the inspiration.
Dave

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm
Thank you, Dave, for your kind comment.  I'm glad to see that the joy of this hobby is returning to you through the building and flying of these swing  control models.  Their simplicity allows them to be flown in a larger variety of places with less need of preparation and complexity that is associated with many other forms of model flight.  And, as you point out the activity connected with the model flying is beneficial to one's physical and mental well being.  I think the Spirit of St Louis will be a good flyer for you.  Let us know how it goes for you.

Al

Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Nov 17th, 2016 at 11:15pm
This past Monday, Norma went with me for my eye checkup.  After the eye exam we did a bit of shopping.  Then we had a little flying session.

A few weeks prior we had gone to nearby Sugar Land, TX to visit a hobby shop with an adjacent RC race car track, only to find it shut down and the race track abandoned and overgrown in grass.
http://www.rchobbyshop.com
The race track is further described at the bottom of the following web page.
http://www.rchouston.com/#sthash.lX2aBuWs.nx9Gguk7.dpbs

The planes we brought to fly were the Profile Powerhouse and Guillows Flyboy with a stick fuselage pictured below.

Both flew OK, but because of the bright sunlight and not being familiar with my Fuji camera, Norma  was unable to frame the flights so well  So the models are not so easy to see in flight.  The Profile Powerhouse has some vertical up-n-down due to the breezy weather, but the Flyboy is pretty stable.  However the  goal of our flight was met:  to illustrate the irony of flying a simple 'swinger' in a shuttered hi-tech RC shop and facility.
Powerhouse
https://youtu.be/EkRH6tXY910
Flyboy
https://youtu.be/IknLqIqcHbI
Enjoy,

Al
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 18th, 2016 at 2:38pm
A while back, when we started the 'quarter-A' thread in the UC section of SnT we thought of making a swinger of a small Cox 020 powered FF model that we scratch built as a teenager.  It was based on the "OH-TU' published in Flying Models mag in the mid 1950's.  Back in August we edited the plan to figure out some shapes for this model and got as far as the fuselage and tail.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 18th, 2016 at 2:52pm
We decided to revisit the project and see if we could get it into the air.  The wing from the LTV-450 which is now the S-24 is proving to be a very versatile item.  So we mated it to the new fuselage with a quarter-A on it, and got the following result.
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by simpleflyer on Dec 18th, 2016 at 3:45pm
Although, the weather was making some dramatic changes going from about 70 degrees yesterday noon to low 30's this morning, we were able to make a few test flights in the afternoon, capturing some interesting cloud background.  A happy coincidence was it was 12-17-16(Wright bros. flight anniversary) and we were able to celebrate the event with a model plane flight.

Al
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Title: Re: Swinging with the long winged 'Simple-Swingers'
Post by Sky9pilot on Dec 19th, 2016 at 2:44pm
Fantastic Al,
Nicely done and the clouds do add a lot of drama and visual impact!
Tom

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