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Message started by DAVE Q on Dec 5th, 2016 at 8:09am

Title: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 5th, 2016 at 8:09am
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Well, I don't see in the (rule), that it needed to be finished or flyable? Found this in the attic, looking for Christmas stuff. So here you go, beat this one. My Grandfather took me into a hobby shop one day, and said I could have an airplane. This is the first airplane build I ever did. This is the one that started it all. I imagine plastic Cox control line kicked in shortly around here. My Grandfather died when I was 8. God Bless his soul. So, born in 1962, plus 8, equals built in 1970. This airplane is 46 years old. You can't see it in the picture, but I built right off the paper plan. And used Ambroid glue. The fuselage is actually in great shape. And I must have had much more limber hands, and better eyes, because the work is not that bad at all. And there is zero pin holes in the paper plan? Did I have that much patience back then to actually hold the parts in place? WOW. I should finish this airplane, and make a teather flyer out of it, so it will last, and I could enjoy it. And I should put decals on each side of it, and call it, PAPPY. Pap would be proud.

After posting what I did, I just couldn't put it back in the attic. Going to make a tether flyer out of her. I must have been 8 years old, or out of my mind to get a biplane.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 5th, 2016 at 8:24am
My main question here is, does anyone think these decals are saveable? Any tips to uncurl, clean, and soften these decals?

A trip back to 1970

These are items found in the box. I have no clue what the IROHA RAZOR looked like. Looks like the Exacto knife was marked down from 70 cents to 62 cents. Remember the old Ambroid glue tubes that had the spreader on the cap. Have no clue where the prop and pink spinner came from. The small decals are from my HO train layout switches. And I guess every 8 year old needs a bent C clamp to build his airplane.

And I forgot to ask in the original post. When this airplane is done. Do I get to say, this airplane is 46 years old?
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by bigrip74 on Dec 5th, 2016 at 4:21pm
1. Use of these decals is questionable.
2. I've put old decals in a bathroom with the hot shower running to make steam that could help with the unroll of the decals.
3. Pin them to a flat surface to dry.
4. Go to Kinkos or a like store to have them print out in color so you could then use to make new decals. Decal sheets are available, but not sure of the sizes.
5. Make tissue cals with the new color markings to use as a template.

Bob

Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by Sky9pilot on Dec 5th, 2016 at 5:26pm
As Bob suggested the steam to flatten out the decals and immediately pin them down flat.  A damp clothe might clean them up sufficiently to reseal them with a coat of Krylon crystal clear.  But they would still be very fragile.

But the copy idea of Bob's is a good way to set up some tissue cals on your printer.

That pink spinner and prop look to be for glow or diesel power. 

Don't see why you couldn't call her that old...but a lady never like to reveal her true age! ;D :D ;)
Tom

Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 27th, 2016 at 10:09am
Already had the horo stab repaired at this point. Thought I'd put this center section in it to make it easier to glue and cover. 90% of it is original.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 27th, 2016 at 10:13am
Repaired the upper wing. 60% of it is original. That disaster above it is the lower wing.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 27th, 2016 at 10:18am
Rebuilt the entire bottom wing. I guess when I originally started this, I started with the bottom wing. It needed allot of help. 0% of it is original.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 27th, 2016 at 10:26am
When I really got into this, I decided to keep as much of the original airplane as possible. So decisions were made to let things go as is. 100% of the incorrectly built vert stab and tailwheel are going to be kept. 95% of the fuselage is going to be kept as is. I would really like to put the exhaust stacks on it. And that wood prop that was in the box also. Also the gun and the pilot. With all this being said, I don't know how much of a goal I have to make it a teather flyer anymore. Sorry?
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 27th, 2016 at 10:33am
My main concern with making it a teather flyer is. If i need to attach to the wing struts midway between the wings, to get this to sit right in the sky. I can't see that upper wing staying attached very long. And because of the story of this plane, I would really like to keep it. I guess in hindsight, I should have put this in the (wrecks, repairs) section.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 31st, 2016 at 2:28pm
Getting there. Need to repair the radiator/cowl that I cut in half and chopped a hole in for an engine yet. Unsure about installing cabanes, at this time the wings are still removable. The bottom wing screws into the fuselage, and there are screws at the end of each wing strut. After painting it, I don't know why I need to remove the wings though. Maybe I'll cut some from popsicle sticks, and just glue them in place.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Dec 31st, 2016 at 2:41pm
I think the headrest fairing I'm going to just make out of solid balsa. Need to paint the cockpit black, or maybe tan? Put the inst panel in, and cut the card stock for the cockpit opening. Might put some old 1/8" feul tubing around the opening for combing, and the paint it tan. I doubt the latex craft paint is going to want to stick to that. Any ideas out there for a tan colored combing to use around the opening? Not sure about putting the pilot in, the one in the kit is pretty poor. I think Pap is going to be proud. I hope he is, it only took me 46 years.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by Sky9pilot on Dec 31st, 2016 at 3:01pm
SE5a looks great.  Some have used sheet foam to make the cockpit combing.  Depron or foam sheet, Walmart has a 2mm cocoa brown that might work: Click Here
Looking forward to the completion of this one!
Tom

Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by terryman on Dec 31st, 2016 at 3:08pm

DAVE Q wrote on Dec 31st, 2016 at 2:41pm:
... Any ideas out there for a tan colored combing to use around the opening? ...


Wire insulation.  Check a hardware store for different colors and diameters.  Remove from the wire by slitting down the middle. Then put the slit over the cockpit edge.

Terry

Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Jan 1st, 2017 at 3:14am

terryman wrote on Dec 31st, 2016 at 3:08pm:

DAVE Q wrote on Dec 31st, 2016 at 2:41pm:
... Any ideas out there for a tan colored combing to use around the opening? ...


Wire insulation.  Check a hardware store for different colors and diameters.  Remove from the wire by slitting down the middle. Then put the slit over the cockpit edge.

Terry


Terry
Really like your idea, ran down stairs to find a couple old wiring harnesses I salvaged from a washer/dryer I tossed. Originally pulled them out because, there was all different guages and colors. No tan that I was hoping for, but there is kind on a medium mustard color. And it is more to scale than the feul tubing would have been. After thinking about it a bit. I'll use black for the inst panel bulkhead. Then a light tan for the interior, just so it's not just a black hole. And use the mustard wire for the combing. It is kind of a leather color, which I think that original combing was. Think I need to see what Park Flyer Plastics has in the way of a pilot, or maybe just start to paint mine and see what I end up with. I think a pilot in here will really add to it.
Dave

Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Jan 8th, 2017 at 1:17pm
Need to finish yet is the mainwheels/landing gear, prop, exhaust, and cabanes. Painted the model a lighter green than it should be. I didn't want the model to look drab looking.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by DAVE Q on Jan 8th, 2017 at 1:20pm
Need to finish yet is the pilot, cockpit combing, and lines for elevator.
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Title: Re: Guillows SE5A tether flyer build
Post by Sky9pilot on Jan 8th, 2017 at 5:16pm
Great looking model!  Well done.  You're making great progress!  She'll look great in the air!
Tom

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