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Reply #11 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 11:11pm

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So! engine supply seems to determine the finished product? Huh

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Reply #10 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:32pm

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Dave,
Interesting question.  My research found this reply to that very question:
RC Universe

RE: Fairchild Info..

    There is no such Fairchild airplane called "Rancher". The model 24 is powered by either the Ranger 6-440-C series 175/200 hp engines or the Warner 145/165 hp radials. Other than the RAF designating the lend lease UC-61 (F-24) as Argus, there was never an official name assigned by the manufacturer.

    FMI: http://www.fairchildclub.com/ and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fairchildclub/

    Alternately, search the web for "Fairchild 24". There are a large number of sites dedicated to this aircraft.

Seems the only listing of the Rancher is on model kit manufacturers... another post at RC Universe,

Your "facts" are adding to my confusion. I think that aero magazines (or authors) have been swapping the -22 and the -24 notation back and forth now. Cover may say -22 but the contents are showing a -24 type. M.A.N., M.A, and others interchange the two types. Even in an older Used Aircraft edition of FLYING magazine, they interchange the facts, pictures and words.

The Rancher -24, to my understanding, was just a cheapie version of the Ranger -24. The Rancher -24 version was brought out by Berkeley and then SIG. It was the long nose, inline engine version (originally a Menasco?), of either four or six cylinders. I dunno, which is why am asking here.

My thought is that the only thing consistant is the name FAIRCHILD.

So apparently the plans/kits of the Fairchild 24 may say "Rancher" such as Berkeley, but the actual aircraft designation is 24 plus a series of letters and numbers, such as C8F  Aerofiles Click Here  The 24W uses the Warner Scarab radial engine, the 24R's usually use a Ranger engine, sometime the inline was a Menasco 4 cylinder

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Reply #9 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 6:17pm

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Can someone please tell me what the difference is between a Fairchild Ranger and Rancher?
Is it the engine or?
TOM?
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Reply #8 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 5:00pm

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There are a lot of schemes for the Cessna and configurations as well!  I'm drawn to the bright schemes...
I love the bush one's with the balloon tires, the skywagons with the belly tray for cargo, but I'm liking this yellow and dark blue scheme and this orange and white.  Bright and easy to duplicate!
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Reply #7 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 4:08pm

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I'm liking the Fairchild 24 Ranger....
Here's a couple pics.... who knew that there was a "D"Day Ranger!!!
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Reply #6 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 1:06pm

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Yes!

Fairchild 24 "Rancher"

Very good example of what I'm trying to promote.  Struts could be as detailed as one likes at the 36" size.  Plan would be easy to bump up in size, or downsize, to accommodate all points of view.  And...  No frappin' plastics...

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Reply #5 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:46am

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Pete,
I have to admit that's another consideration for me.  That is one beautiful airplane.  Lots of great schemes available also.
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Reply #4 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:44am

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Pete,
I have to admit that's another consideration for me.  That is one beautiful airplane.  Lots of great schemes available also.
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Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
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Reply #3 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 4:14am

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Don't forget the GORGEOUS Fairchild 24 "Rancher".  Plan shows installation of rubber and CO2, but a small diesel would also work.

36" span and can easily be "dark-sided" (for those so inclined).

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=246

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Reply #2 - Sep 4th, 2015 at 11:22am

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Below are the Berkely Plans that Tom and I are looking at.  We are leaning toward the Cessna 180, but if I can talk him into it, we'll eventually build em all.  My thoughts are that if we have a handful of builders working on the same planes/plans, in their own chosen scale/size we would see many different interpretations of the same project.  Some might build big/small super detailed, some medium and very flight worthy, some with very few parts, some carved from a single hunk of briar wood.  Not a contest at all, but a display of differing points of view.

The planes chosen below were chosen because they are NOT 20" single wing spar designs, but hefty 30 to 60 inch jobs.  You want small?  Print small, and eliminate parts as you see fit.  Big?  Go fer it!

More than anything, those who consider themselves as more novice, or less experienced, would be invited to leave their comfort zones, and in a environment of total collaboration build a more complicated project and advance your skill level.

Who wants to build what?  I like em all.


Berkely Cessna 180

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=241


Berkely Piper Comanche

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=255


Berkely Ryan Navion Super 260

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=586


Berkely Stinson Reliant

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=185


Berkely Super Cloud Wakefield

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=887


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Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2015 at 7:41pm

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I would be interested (ive still got to finish my Black Bullitt and the job keeps getting the way. Angry)

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Sep 2nd, 2015 at 1:02pm

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Bill Parker and I are wanting to build a plan together in a cookup.  We'd like to open this up to anyone else to join us.  We'd like to build from plan because the kits are too expensive now days!  But if you have a kit and would like to build along with us that's ok too.

We've been discussing plans.  Outerzone and HPA have a large number of Berkeley plans available for free.  Download and print on your own printers or take to a shop and have printed at the size you desire.  We don't want to limit it to the size the plan calls for. 

Let us know what your thinking.  We'll look at the results in 10 days.
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