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Schneider Trophy Cook up? (Read 78602 times)
Reply #22 - Nov 5th, 2016 at 7:42pm

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Come on Ian...the Piaggio is calling your name!!!  No time pressure in this.  Just another build on the board!

Neal...how about you??? I'm sure there's a flying boat or seaplane calling your name!!!!  Terry, I'm sure I'm hearing one call your name!!!  Gunny...put down the Millennium Falcon and take up a seaplane or flying boat!!! how about it???

JohnO...you still out there?  There's got to be WWI era derivative of a Schneider Trophy Racer that might be up your alley!???

We still need at least one commitment for this Cookup!!!
Tom
 

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Reply #21 - Nov 5th, 2016 at 7:29pm

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I like what you did with that RC plan. I had downloaded it to see if I had a chance to rework it myself.

So! do we have 5 yet?

 

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Reply #20 - Nov 5th, 2016 at 7:24pm

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Well, spent yesterday modifying an MC-72 plan (in Italian with no name for the designer) for a fairly large span RC model with IC engine.  It wasn't completely true to the 3 views I've found on the net but very close and all the formers are there. 
I've decided to build a modified box fuselage with formers top and bottom. Trapezoidal shape to the fuselage is different. 

I'm also going to give the Contra-Rotating prop system that Prosper used on his MB-5 as seen on his build on HPA Click Here

Here's copy of the plan draft (work in progress) so you can see what I'll be attempting if we can get a fifth participant!  How about modelers it's an open ended  cookup and no pressure to get them built in just a couple of months!

EDIT 16 FEB 2017: UPDATED Here's modified plan!
Tom
« Last Edit: Mar 22nd, 2017 at 4:36pm by Sky9pilot »  

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Reply #19 - Nov 5th, 2016 at 7:13pm

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That Piaggio is really tempting. I wish that I could find the time.
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Reply #18 - Nov 5th, 2016 at 9:05am

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Bernard apparently had the plan(s) deleted from HPA as I couldn't find them.  I'll ask him if I can upload them to the SFA and S&T databases (he sells other plans, so...).  I have both versions in .pdf format, so you can scale it to your hearts content Wink!

If anyone is interested in the dime scale Piaggio plans, shoot me a PM (Personal Message) here with your email address.
 

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Reply #17 - Nov 5th, 2016 at 1:27am

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Much apologies Pete. I'm new and I didn't put together Staubkorb with your name. No offense.
I do bring gifts  Smiley

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Reply #16 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 6:41pm

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I worked with the plan by copying to word then saving as a pdf and was able to blow it up by 218% to get an 18" ws.

thanks Tom for your hard work. Wink

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Reply #15 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 5:29pm

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bfb...pete's post is still there, at least for me! 

Bob... 16" would be the dime scale/pseudo dime scale...Pete might be a better source.  I tried tweaking it in Photoshop but couldn't see much difference.  Apparently Bernard has tweaked the PDF file so it can't be tampered with.  Which is very smart on his part.  I don't know how to do that yet!  I'll keep trying.  I'll email you what I did do to see if it helps.

I would love to see Bernard's Dime Scale plans!

How about it Alfredo...make it 5? Gunny or Neal or Terry how about y'all?
Tom

« Last Edit: Nov 5th, 2016 at 7:35pm by Sky9pilot »  

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Reply #14 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 4:47pm

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I cant see Petes post anymore. But so far we have:
Staubkorb/edit: Pete by Sky9pilot 5Nov2016 6:35 pm pst
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So just 1 more!

« Last Edit: Jan 9th, 2017 at 2:17pm by Sky9pilot »  

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Reply #13 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 4:29pm

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Tom, I am looking at 16 - 18 inch wing span. If the tweaking gives you too much trouble, I have others to choose from.

Alfredo, would you wish to join in?

David, getting stoked happens every time I pick up a set of plans or look at another photo Cheesy

Bob
 

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Reply #12 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 4:23pm

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wow, u know Im  a racer fan...
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Reply #11 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 3:31pm

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Bob...let me see if I can tweak the plan a bit to get what you're looking for.  What span are you wanting to reach?

Here's a link to some history on the Schneider Trophy Races: Click Here

As for time limits...
1. Lets plan on starting as soon as we reach the fifth individual
2. Lets leave it open ended finish when you can hopefully by Dec.31, 2017
3. Any aircraft of the Schneider Trophy/cup Races from1911-1931 (Lots to choose from).
4. All post on the same thread as progress is made in your construction...

Have we got a fifth yet?
I've decided on the MC-72 and here's a bit of history on this amazing aircraft which still holds the piston powered seaplane speed record! Click Here
Tom
 

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Reply #10 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 3:01pm

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The Gloster is jaw dropping. I was concerned earlier about the symmetrical airfoil, but after a closer look, I realized the symmetrical ribs are for the fin/rudder.

I have mine narrowed down to under 10! Getting there.

What kind of time frame do you guys think would be appropriate? We do have a few holidays coming up, but those will surely be consumed by the festivities.

A couple more pics... Man this is getting me excited!
David
 

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Reply #9 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 2:41pm

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Ive tried to printing the Piaggio jpg plan, but it comes out too light when I expand it by 150%.

I may need to go with the Gloster or Curtiss.

Bob
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 2:08pm

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Pete...that all works for me... I believe the plan I posted is the Peanut version.  I'm with Bob, haven't see the dime/pseudo scale plan.  I'd be interested in that also.  I've thought of enlarging the Peanut scale plan to 24-27" and modifying the plan to work. 

I'm also drawn to the Vickers/Supermarine S6 or the Macchi birds especially the MC72 twin v-12's

Edit: 2:07p.m. PST- after some research I'll be attempting the Macchi Castoldi MC-72.  It will allow me to fulfill two goals; participate in this cookup and to try Prosper's MB-5's Contra-rotating drive in the MC-72.  I think this will be quite fun.
Tom
« Last Edit: Nov 4th, 2016 at 3:34pm by Sky9pilot »  

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