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Reply #88 - Nov 30th, 2019 at 12:05pm

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WoW...lots of activities...great stuff, I look forward to the reports.  Thanks KF!!
 

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Reply #87 - Nov 29th, 2019 at 11:17pm

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The November 27th P-18 contest was rescheduled to December 4th.  This was due to the weather being so bad that it would have been dangerous for many members to drive to the meeting!

December becomes a very busy contest month with the P-18 contest on the 4th, the Black Sheep Squadron's Pearl Harbor NoCal contest on the 13th and the ROG Unlimited contest on the 18th.  This last because there will be no meeting on the 25th.

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Reply #86 - Nov 6th, 2019 at 5:48pm

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The O.F.F.C. NoCal contest for 2019 happened on October 30.  Unfortunately, there were a few astonished, "The contest is today?" remarks at the meeting and there were only 4 entries. The four of us that did fly had a lot of fun.

Now. Pete Basone and I were trimming models we expect to fly in the Pearl Harbor NoCal contest in December so he had a Zero and I had a Brewster Buffalo.  Bill Watson, for some reason, probably because it was appropriate to the Black Sheep Squadron, and the model would be displayed at the AMA EXPO the following weekend built a Corsair.  Don Butman, the CD for the event, brought a high winged Farman with a big barn door of a wing.  With the 12 gram minimum weight and all the fighters flying gear down you could easily predict the winner.

The contest was for the total of the best two flights out of five attempts.

The results were:

  • 1.   Don Butman           Farman             13 grams         159 seconds
  • 2.   Bill Watson             Corsair              12 grams         134.7
  • 3.   Howard Littman       Buffalo              12 grams          77.8 
  • 4.   Pete Basone           Zero                 14 grams           52.4 



Winn Hammer brought his Zipper, not really legitimate since it is a model of a model, but he couldn't get it flying well enough to compete.

The November 27 contest will be a one design, P-18 Hawk, with a stock North Pacific front end.  (Yes, we have a supply of them.)
 

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Reply #85 - Oct 15th, 2019 at 3:20pm

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Sounds like fun, I eagerly await the report on the event!
 

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Reply #84 - Oct 15th, 2019 at 12:28pm

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The NoCal contest gets more interesting.  Rules specify a 16 inch span (Legal) NoCal model but with a 12 gram minimum weight.  Fixed landing gear with rolling wheels required, no drop off gear, and all flights must start ROG.

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Reply #83 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 1:18pm

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The One Design contest, for Mini-Sonics, went off, as scheduled, on September 25.  There was a good turnout with nine entrants out of the twelve kits sold.  (I could not find my model!  It's in my shop somewhere.)  The nine entrants got their dough back.

The contestants, flying what is essentially an outdoor model indoors, still achieved remarkably good times with seven of the nine models posting times over one minute.  The contest was decided on the best flight of unlimited trys so there were few moments when there were no models in the air.

The results were:

    1.   Pete Basone             83.7 seconds
    2.   Don Butman             80.7
    3.   Joe Whiting              79.5
    4.   Bill Watson               74.5
    5.   Don Smith                66.8
    6.   Jim Leuken               64.8
    7.   Bill Blanchard            62.9
    8.   Wade Wiley              44.0
    9.   Wynn Hammer          11.6


CD(s)    Bill Watson, Dave Gee
Timer     Howard Littman

The next contest will be on October 30, for No-Cal models.  Don Butman, wizard of No-Cals, is the CD and he has come up with an interesting set of rules including ROG from, rolling wheels, required.  Since the annual Pearl Harbor No-Cal contest will be the next week there are many Pearl Harbor eligible models being tested with landing gear.
 

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Reply #82 - Sep 27th, 2019 at 5:07pm

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The contest for August was Phantom Flash.  Embarrassingly enough, I didn’t get to the contest until the very end.  And, not knowing how long my prior commitment would take, I didn’t bring my model.  Neither did a lot of other people and the contest was between our usual three stalwarts, Bill Watson, Jim Lieuken and Don Butman.   They finished in that order.
I took a picture of the score sheet and a picture of the group at the end.  However, when I got home I could not find those pictures on my phone, so I don’t have the detail times or the group picture.  Mia Culpa!

The next O.F.F.C contest is the One Design the design in question being the Mini Sonic.  A dozen members bought kits and we will see how many are flown in the contest.  Incentive to finish and fly is added because the contest is a do-back.  It was to be held on Wednesday, September 26 but was postponed to Wednesday, October 2 due to floor work in the gym.
 

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Reply #81 - Aug 16th, 2019 at 12:12am

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Outstanding report and I wish I could have been there.  I'm sure there was a lot of strategy discussed by all on "how to" for next time.  Thanks for keeping us informed!!!
 

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Reply #80 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 10:04pm

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RUBBER PAYLOAD CONTEST - AUGUST 14TH


If not the best attended OFFC contest it was certainly one of the most fun.  Everyone agreed that we will have to do this one again.  There were only two entries, Bill Watson and Jim Leuken.  Now, that may not sound like much of a contest but everyone there was fascinated and many more will participate the next time. Bill and Jim took two different approaches to the problem.

Bill took the high camber airfoil approach.  His model was sturdy but only weighed 10 grams and had a low wing design reminiscent of a 1930s ROG model.  He installed a small keel, under the wing, to attach the clay payload, keeping the CG centered.  His motor was 1/8” flat, tan rubber, as required by the rules, and the final motor weighed 2.4 grams. The last flight lifted 25.6 grams of clay.

Jim’s approach was a high winged, contemporary ROG type model with a pylon, tip dihedral and an airfoil with a very small camber.  He wrapped the clay load around the pylon to maintain the CG position.  His last flight, with essentially the same motor as Bill’s model lifted 25.3 grams of clay and might have lifted more except he ran out of time.

This contest was more closely fought than would appear with only two contestants.  The biggest problem was getting the heavily laden models to turn inside the gym.  There were many flights that did not lift off and became high speed taxi runs.  Several flights did not make the 20 second minimum (leading to an observation that ’20 seconds can be a long time’).   And, of course many flights ended against the wall.  Hitting the ceiling was not an issue here.

This contest was a successful experiment and it was agreed that the next time there will be many more contestants.

The next contest is Comet Phantom Flash, plan stock except for thrust button, prop shaft and prop, on August 28th.
 

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Reply #79 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 8:44pm

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On Wednesday, July 31, the Dime Scale Contest (9 cent scale) was held in the Stonehurst gym.  We had a great meeting before the contest which ended with a few surprised, "The contest is today?" remarks.  As it turned out only three people brought dimers.  But, following the FAC three contestants makes a contest rule it went ahead anyway.

Bill Watson brought a freshly made Heath Parasol.  Joe Whiting brought a SIPA S.11 (French Arado 96) and a Fokker DXVII.  Don Butman brought his SB2C-3 and a Howard DGA-15.  Once Bill got the Heath trimmed it was evident that he would win the contest.  Joe's Fokker had been finished the night before the contest and was in need of more trimming that could be done that morning so he flew the reliable SIPA S.11.  Don's SB2C-3 was beautifully stable in flight but he couldn't get over 30 seconds out of it so he switched to the DGA-15.  (Although he held the more colorful Curtiss for the photos.)

The contest was for the best single flight of unlimited (well, completed before the 11:30 cutoff time) attempts.

The results:

  • 1. Bill Watson         80.3  seconds
  • 2, Joe Whiting        52.41
  • 3. Don Butman       36.1


CD Joe Whiting, Timer Howard Littman

The next contest is the Rubber Payload Contest on August 14.               
 

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Reply #78 - Jul 30th, 2019 at 12:32pm

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CORRECTION!


I was sent the wrong photo of the A-6 contest score sheet.  Here are the correct results.


  • 1.Bill Watson                                457.5     Seconds
  • 2.Will Woods                                408.1
  • 3.Norm Furutani                           391.3
  • 4.Paul Avery                                 340.6
  • 5.Jim Leuken                                276.0
  • 6.Don Butman                              224.5
  • 7.Pete Basone                              175.8


Again, I wasn't at the contest.  Sorry about the error.
 

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Reply #77 - Jul 30th, 2019 at 11:41am

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REMINDER

Wednesday, July 31, (That's tomorrow, folks.) is the 9 Cent Scale (Joe Whiting's relaxed Dimer rules) contest at Stonehurst.  If you have a dimer that flies come on out!

Also, for those who enjoy a challenge, the OFFC Payload contest will be at Stonehurst on August 14.  See attached poster.

OFFC  contests are open to all interested modelers.

Stonehurst Rec center is at 9901 Dronfield Ave, Sun Valley, CA 91352.  It's one of those hidden parks so you will have to Google Map it to see how to get there.

The OFFC meetings start at 9:00 AM and the flying sessions are 10:00 to 12:00.
 

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Reply #76 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 11:44pm

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Looks like everyone had fun and that the weather cooperated this year.  Hope your CD is feeling better and back flying soon.  Thanks again for the pics and contest results!
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Reply #75 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 8:27pm

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I was at the Predicted Time/Spot Landing contest yesterday.  This is the OFFC's one outdoor contest that is always held in the middle of summer on the Stonehurst Recreation Center field.   It was a bit windy but flyable. The contest is open to any rubber powered model that can ROG (Yes, in the past helicopters have been entered!)  You have four flight attempts, each. to accomplish two tasks.   The flight for, either task. must be at least 15 seconds to count. The two tasks may be accomplished by a single flight.

The first task is predict the duration of your model's flight before launching your model from a card table.  The second task is to get the model to land as close to an American Flag on a pole in the middle of the field.  The pole has a 50 foot measuring tape attached to it for measuring the distance from the pole to the closest part of the model.

An interesting variety of models was flown, the usual Minnows, a few designed for the contest models and for those without anything to fly, Dave Gee brought a box of Guillow's Jetstreams. I brought one of my Double Trouble prototypes but discovered that I had left the front end back on the bench and ended up flying a Jetstream. 

Every once and a while you get a Jetstream that won't climb. This is a bit of a problem in a contest that requires ROG (ROT?) takeoffs.  I ended up extending the wing slot all the way to the prop hanger to get it to climb.  The next flight it flew straight to the trees and treed itself 20 feet up on the back side of a tree.  I got Bill Watson's modified kite pole, which acted like it was a prop from a Buster Keaton movie, and retrieved the model.  My last flight, predicted for 20 seconds, flew 31 seconds and bounced off a tree on the other side of the park...FOGETTABOUTIT!  There is always next year!

Dave Gee, the CD for the contest was feeling a bit poorly and had to leave in the middle of the contest.  Kurt Young took over as timer and CD

The results were:

Flier                                         Model              Seconds off predicted     Distance from pole

1. Barry Dougherty                      Zipper                 .2                            10' 11"
2. Bill Watson                             Own Design          .2                            16'
3. Jim Leuken                             Own Design         1.2                            50'+
4. Don Butman                            Peck ROG            4.0                           12' 10"
5. Kurt Young                             Jetstream            4.0                           50'+
6. Howard Littman                       Jetstream          11.6                           50'+
7. Stan Christopher                      Minnow              N/A                           50'+
8. Marylin Commer                       Jetstream            N/A                          N/A

The next contest is Dime Scale (Joe Whiting's 9 Cent scale rules) on July 28.  If you have a Dime Scale model and can make it that Wednesday morning, come on out!         

 

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Reply #74 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 2:57pm

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Thanks for the report and the pictures.  Congrats to the winners and keep em flying!!! Smiley
 

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