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Reply #18 - Jul 28th, 2019 at 1:42pm

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Superb model, Alf...great addition to your collection!  I know what you're saying about getting peanut scale models to fly well...my curse as well.  It's that old scale effect.  Seems I would rather have my builds look like their namesake rather than fly.  Wink  About the only way to beat that situation is to build large.  Even then, free-flight is no mean feat of accomplishment.  Still...there is real satisfaction in building an attractive model...regardless of its size. Smiley

Beautiful work...artist.

Neal
 
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Reply #17 - Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:00am

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Thanks to all for your kind words!

I'm happy with the overall appearance, stand back far enough and all the imperfections tend to disappear! I managed to get close to the colors that I wanted, but at the expense of tissue that was difficult to work with. My inability to shrink out the wrinkles is noticeable.

Maybe having a color laser printer could have eliminated much of the tissue issues, but that's too big an expense for me. I'm wondering if a local printer might do a small batch job like this?

Finally, at my skill level, I think larger models might be more flyable. At Peanut size, I can't seem to avoid packing the weight on.
 

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Reply #16 - Jul 27th, 2019 at 8:22pm

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Really sharp AK!  The camo approach turned out very nicely.

Cheers,

Mike
 
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Reply #15 - Jul 27th, 2019 at 7:16am

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Fantastic indeed. Great job overcoming the tissue printing problem and all looks just great.
Mike
 

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Reply #14 - Jul 26th, 2019 at 5:04pm

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WoW...she looks fantastic!
 

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Reply #13 - Jul 26th, 2019 at 3:58pm

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Almost there!! Still have to deal with a spinner, the gun troughs (tissue), add the canopy side panels, and the exhaust stacks.
 

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Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2019 at 3:55pm

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Sky9pilot wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
After reviewing the pics...do you have some dihedral in the wing?  Looks very flat to me?  You might need a bit more dihedral for that low wing setup.
Tom


Yes, but the angle is close to scale, not very much. As the build progressed, I saw it evolving more as a display rather than a flyer. So, I decided to not increase the dihedral.
 
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Reply #11 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 3:24pm

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After reviewing the pics...do you have some dihedral in the wing?  Looks very flat to me?  You might need a bit more dihedral for that low wing setup.
Tom
 

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Reply #10 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 9:10am

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HOLY GUACAMOLE!  You nailed it, Alf! Very unique...and looks GREAT!

As for wrinkles...butyrate dope does have shrinking qualities and does not seem to effect printer inks...at least that's my experience...been sealing tissue-cals for years with the stuff.

On the other hand...looks fine as is.

Neal
 
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Reply #9 - Jul 24th, 2019 at 2:41pm

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What a beauty!!! Smiley that camo scheme really pops agains the black background.  This is a great job.  You might try some steam to shrink the tissue some more.  I've heard of some modelers hanging the model in the bathroom up high as they took a shower to let the steam saturate the tissue and then leave it hanging to shrink as the steam dissipated.
Tom
 

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2019 at 1:55pm

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The inability to shrink the tissue has left quite a few wrinkles, etc. Tried shrinking with only alcohol, a little improvement but the alcohol seemed to blur the dark areas.

That canopy bow will be removed once the canopy is in place.
 

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Reply #7 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:46pm

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Stab looks terrific!  Applying the dry tissue to the wing upper surface is always a challenge for me.  I really prefer wet application for wing upper surfaces.  But you need good esaki or good domestic to hold up to wet application.  I'd airbrush that scheme on any plane I'd be doing with that camo!!!
Tom
 

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Reply #6 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:28pm

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Making progress with the camo. Airbrushed white Esaki (dull side) on a frame. Cut that tissue out and ran it thru my printer to print the camo pattern on it. This resulted in a much better (opaque) light green background color.

Then used UHU stick to attach the tissue dry. The stab was easy, it's flat. The wing with its airfoil curve, not so much. Fiddled with it and then threw caution to the wind and tried a light water shrink. Not a good idea as the colors are not waterproof. Not too much damage done.

Then went back to alcohol to try to massage the wrinkles out and then mist the tissue with alcohol to shrink. Mixed results. Still a work in progress.

Here's the stab.
 

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Reply #5 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:45pm

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Alf - You really do pick very interesting planes to model and the progress is great. Hoping the color scheme works out soon.
Mike
 

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Reply #4 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:26am

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If ever there was a subject ripe for pre-printed camouflage covering...I think that Fiat fills the bill.  I didn't choose anything near as artistic as you're doing, Alf...but the nature of the national wing markings might pose some difficult challenges.  They don't have a solid color inside that outer circle...i.e., they lend themselves well to some form of clear transfer decal...that detailed camo is going to need to appear inside the national markings!  As such...I found myself having to hand paint them.  All markings on my Fiat are hand-painted save the fuselage fasces and that little coat-of-arms on the rudder cross...which are "paper-cals."

The only time I've ever used printed covering, complete with detailed markings, was during my Aviatik DI build...worked marvelously...saved tons of time and consternation.  Wink  Looked "Purdy good," too.  If one is going to print the covering...might as well try to work details like national markings into it as well.  Just a thought.

Aesthetically...the G50/55 imo was one ugly airplane.  Cheesy Grin Grin Grin  However, I read that it actually was easy to maintain in the field...and not totally ineffective...utilitarian I think.  Actually served on the Eastern Front as well as North Africa!

Ok, enough with my cluttering up your great build.  Dandy lookin' bones, Alf.  Gonna be another winner for certain.Smiley

Neal
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