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Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2019 at 1:55pm

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The inability to shrink the tissue has left quite a few wrinkles, etc. Tried shrinking with only alcohol, a little improvement but the alcohol seemed to blur the dark areas.

That canopy bow will be removed once the canopy is in place.
 

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Reply #7 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:46pm

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Stab looks terrific!  Applying the dry tissue to the wing upper surface is always a challenge for me.  I really prefer wet application for wing upper surfaces.  But you need good esaki or good domestic to hold up to wet application.  I'd airbrush that scheme on any plane I'd be doing with that camo!!!
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Reply #6 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:28pm

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Making progress with the camo. Airbrushed white Esaki (dull side) on a frame. Cut that tissue out and ran it thru my printer to print the camo pattern on it. This resulted in a much better (opaque) light green background color.

Then used UHU stick to attach the tissue dry. The stab was easy, it's flat. The wing with its airfoil curve, not so much. Fiddled with it and then threw caution to the wind and tried a light water shrink. Not a good idea as the colors are not waterproof. Not too much damage done.

Then went back to alcohol to try to massage the wrinkles out and then mist the tissue with alcohol to shrink. Mixed results. Still a work in progress.

Here's the stab.
 

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Reply #5 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:45pm

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Alf - You really do pick very interesting planes to model and the progress is great. Hoping the color scheme works out soon.
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Reply #4 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:26am

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If ever there was a subject ripe for pre-printed camouflage covering...I think that Fiat fills the bill.  I didn't choose anything near as artistic as you're doing, Alf...but the nature of the national wing markings might pose some difficult challenges.  They don't have a solid color inside that outer circle...i.e., they lend themselves well to some form of clear transfer decal...that detailed camo is going to need to appear inside the national markings!  As such...I found myself having to hand paint them.  All markings on my Fiat are hand-painted save the fuselage fasces and that little coat-of-arms on the rudder cross...which are "paper-cals."

The only time I've ever used printed covering, complete with detailed markings, was during my Aviatik DI build...worked marvelously...saved tons of time and consternation.  Wink  Looked "Purdy good," too.  If one is going to print the covering...might as well try to work details like national markings into it as well.  Just a thought.

Aesthetically...the G50/55 imo was one ugly airplane.  Cheesy Grin Grin Grin  However, I read that it actually was easy to maintain in the field...and not totally ineffective...utilitarian I think.  Actually served on the Eastern Front as well as North Africa!

Ok, enough with my cluttering up your great build.  Dandy lookin' bones, Alf.  Gonna be another winner for certain.Smiley

Neal
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Reply #3 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 6:52am

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Kerak wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:46pm:
I too tried my hand at Pres's little Fiat some years ago...the challenge for me was where the wing and fuselage meet at the leading edge.Neal


Exactly! If that not-so-little detail was shown in the plan, then I couldn't find it. So, rather than puzzle over the plan construction, I did what we all would do, just add a former for the cowl to the front of the fuselage box, and then glue it on. Rather than mess with modifying the LE, I chose to cut out the cowl to make room for it. Looking at real life pics, that is what Fiat seemed to do as well.

The camo scheme is continuing to be a challenge. I did make some headway by attaching a large piece of white Esaki to a frame, shrunk it a little, and then airbrushed it with a light green acrylic from Vallejo. I then laid the taut tissue in the frame over a piece of printer paper with the green camo pattern. Then I used an artist felt tip pen to color in the dark green 'lines'. This did not do well. The tissue held up OK but the marker ink ended up with some parts being darker than others. Didn't look right. I experimented a little with some Prismacolor pencils but the result was so-so as well.

Next, I printed the camo pattern on to a piece of airbrushed tissue. The dark green 'lines' aren't very dark but the overall outcome shows promise. I'm not ready to give up on this quite yet!


 
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Reply #2 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:46pm

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Nice lookin' job, Alf...ambitious scheme you've chosen.  I too tried my hand at Pres's little Fiat some years ago...the challenge for me was where the wing and fuselage meet at the leading edge.

I'd say that a coat of clear dope will do wonders for toughening up that tissue...preparatory to using markers...otherwise tissue will blot up a lot of ink.

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Reply #1 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm

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WoW AK...looks fantastic.  The fella (Starleaf) who did the B-47 did one a bit larger on SFA many years ago in the sand and spinach scheme...I'll look for that link...  Found the SFA article in the archives but the pictures were all deleted/lost.  So it's not much help just each post of the thread on the build.  Too bad.  Great looking model.  Yours will be fantastic I'm sure!
I do hope you're talking of inking with the pen after the light green spray before applying to the aircraft.  Markers tend to poke through the tissue as the ink saturates the tissue when doing large areas, don't ask how I found that out! Embarrassed Roll Eyes Grin  You'll want a good backing to the tissue for inking the dark green on!
Tom
 

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Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
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Jul 21st, 2019 at 11:27am

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An early WW2 Italian fighter, pretty mediocre at best. Still wrestling with the two-tone green camo scheme. Current idea is to airbrush a light green color on tissue and then use a sharpie -type pen to ink in the dark green stuff. Minor deviation from the picture is a yellow cowl. 13" w/s, plug in gear.

Adapted from a Pres Bruning plan that requires some imagination!!
 

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