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Message started by Kittyfritters on Feb 6th, 2017 at 2:13pm

Title: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 6th, 2017 at 2:13pm
The Old Farts Flying Club meets every Wednesday morning at the Stonehurst Recreation Center gym, 9901 Dronfield Avenue, Sun Valley, California, for a club meeting and indoor flying session.  There is a contest on the last meeting of the month.  Spectators, prospective members, and desperate fliers are welcome.

This year's contest schedule is:

Jan 28    P-18   (postponed to Feb 01 per CD)
Feb 22    Minnow R.O.G.
Mar 29    Mini-Stick
Apr 26    Catapult Glider
May 31   No-Cal Pusher
Jun 14    Spot Landing and Predicted Time Flight (Outdoors)
Jun 28    Legal Eagle
Jul 26     Penny Plane
Aug 30   Peanut Scale
Sep 27   Embryo
Oct 25   One Design
Nov 29   Bostonian
Dec 27   R.O.G. Unlimited

Note: CDs may make modifications to established rules for a given contest.  These are usually announced at the first meeting of the month.

Last year's scale contest was Dime Scale.  Attached is a picture of the contestants.



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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 6th, 2017 at 2:41pm
The P-18 contest was held February 01.  It went very smoothly thanks to the efforts of the CD, Barry Dougherty.  The contest was P-18 Hawk, per plan, with any prop and front bearing allowed. (Per CD's discretion.)  All were scratch built except for Dave Gee's entry which was a Laser Cut Planes kit.

The results were:

1. Lowell Norenberg                 234.6 seconds
2. Don Martin                            228.1
3. Stan Christopher                  224.2
4. Pete Basone                         172.0
5. Wynn Hammer                      129.7
6. Dave Gee                              121.7
7. Bud Matthews                       119.9
8. John Buntin                           107.9


Some pictures,  Dave Gee launching,  John Buntin weighing in with Barry Dougherty at the scale, and Barry totaling the scores under the watchful eyes of Don Martin and myself.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 6th, 2017 at 4:59pm
Looks like fun was had by all! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:37pm
Ooops! :-[

I forgot mention the time of the Wednesday morning meetings.  The meetings are at 9:00 AM with the flying sessions from 10:00 til noon. 

As I said, if any of you are in the area you are quite welcome.  You might want to e-mail me on Tuesday if you intend to come since every once and a while the Park Department closes the gym for some maintenance issue and we usually know about it the week before,

Howard

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:09pm
Here are the rules for the Minnow contest on February 22

MINNOW R.O.G.

Contest Director John Buntin

1. Model must be built to plan.

2. Propeller - SIG, 5-1/2 inch, red or black plastic

3. Must use SIG nylon prop bearing -Bushings, washers, and beads will be allowed.

4. Tissue covering - No plastic film

5. No weight limit, but all wood sizes must be to plan.

6.  All flights must R.O.G.

7. Any attempted flight over 10 seconds is official.

8. Timing starts at release of plane.

9. Five attempts allowed.  Score is total of best two flights.

10. Contest is over at 11:40 AM.

11. Non-fliers and those repairing models must stand behind the black line.

12.  All contestants, audience, and officials must attempt to have fun.  Anyone not having fun will be directed to leave the contest site immediately.

This is one of the most popular contests.  Almost every member has a Minnow. 

Most of the members present were practicing with them during the flying session after the meeting.  There were so many Minnows in the air that there was actually a head on collision between two of them.  No damage was done.  Minnows are noted for their almost instantaneous recovery after hitting something.  My current one has been bounced off so many obstructions that I call it "Timex".

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 24th, 2017 at 6:22pm
The Minnow contest was held on February 22.  There were 10 contestants and according to the stated rules, fun was had by all. 

The results were as follows: (Times are seconds, sum of best two flights.)

1st     Will Woods                    153.8
2nd     Pete Bassone                149.3
3rd     Don Butman                   134.5
4th     Bill Watson                    123.8
5th     Howard Littman              108.2
6th     Don Martin                    107.9
7th     John Buntin                     94.5
8th     Stan Christopher              86.7
9th     Winn Hammer                  74.6
10th    Lowell Norenberg             57.5

Some members had to do double duty during the contest with Pete Bassone doing scoring and timing and Don Smith timing.  (Photo 1)

Don Butman has a leg brace so he launches and retrieves his models using a padded gripper (Photo 2)

Bill Watson displays body English when his model circled back on him right after launch.  (Photo 3)

The next contest will be on March 29.  I will post the rules next week (assuming that the CD has printed them.)   In anyone will be in the area on a meeting or contest day you are welcome to join us.



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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:06pm
Thanks for the update and the great pictures!  Looks like great fun!
Tom

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 1st, 2017 at 1:37pm
Got the rules for the Mini-Stick contest this morning.  Looks pretty straight forward.  (See photo) Several people were trimming their Mini-Sticks at this mornings session.  Some good competition for this one... 

Bill Watson brought a hot wire cutter to the meeting this morning and cut out some walk-along, flying wing gliders about .020 inch thick.  We spent almost the whole meeting before the flying session playing with them.  Sorry I didn't take pictures.  Kurt Young said we had expressions on our faces like a bunch of 8 year old boys.  Fun!
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 3:26pm
At the last meeting we received the rules for the No-Cal Pusher contest.  That isn't till May 31, and we still haven't received the rules for the Cat Glider contest in April.  Nevertheless, members were testing cat gliders and No-Cal pushers as well as the Mini-Sticks for this months contest on March 29. 

Among those who didn't have a pusher No-Cal there was much discussion about what to build with the opinions about evenly divided between actual pusher aircraft and models of jets.  Should be interesting to see what they come up with. 

Several of us already have one or two.  Looks as though Joe Whiting's Shinden is going to be very competitive this year.  I will have my F7U and Saab Viggen for this year's contest.

                   NO CAL PUSHER AIRCRAFT CONTEST
                                 MAY 31, 2017

1.     Wing span, 16 inch maximum.
2.     Aircraft with fixed landing gear must have each landing gear represented as per the original aircraft plan.
3.     All wing struts must be affixed on model.
4.     Motor sticks shall not exceed fuselage length.  Prop may be at tip of a scale profile spinner if the real plane featured a spinner.
5.     Surfaces may be single covered.
6.     Model must be colored, have control surfaces and registration numbers affixed.
7.     Official flight, 20 seconds minimum.
8.     Total six flights.  Top two flights count for score.


                   GOOD LUCK TO ALL!

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Apr 27th, 2017 at 3:15pm
I wasn't present for the Mini-Stick contest on March 29th since I had to leave right after the club meeting, however the Black Sheep newsletter published the results.  Times are total of best two flights.  This room has a 24 foot ceiling.  (Yes, Pete says he extended his 30 retrieval pole completely in the room but I measured it with my laser rangefinder.)

1     Bill Watson                    511.0 seconds   
2     Jim Luken                      422.0
3     Pete Bassone                 374.0
4     Don Butman                   209.5
5     Don Martin                      90.0
6     Lowell Norenberg               5.6  (I'll have to ask him what happened at the next meeting.  Most unusual!)

I was present, as a timer, not a contestant, for the Cat Glider contest on April 26.

The rules were:

1     3 sets of 3 flights
2     Best single flight wins
3     Launching stick (in any) 6 inches or shorter
4     Rubber loop 9 inches or shorter
5     Glider any size, material, or weight
6     One person flying at a time.  All others behind the black line.
7     All attempts count as an official flight.
8     All contestants encouraged to enjoy and have fun.
9     The contest ends at 11:40.

Bill Watson easily won the contest with an extremely well engineered glider. (Really, you have to see how he approaches building a model.)  He also had the most uncanny launching technique being able to launch the model straight up to the ceiling and getting it to roll out, the wing tip almost touching the ceiling, into level flight.

There was a tie for second place between Lowell Norenberg and Pete Bassone with the best time of each of their sets the same.  The tie was resolved by adding up the total flight times of all their sets with Pete edging out Lowell.

Dave Gee provided the comedy relief for the contest by using a tiny glider with a balsa frame and film covered surfaces which he did not catapult but simply dropped from his raised hand. The thing flew so well that I wonder how well it would have done if he had stripped some incredibly small section rubber and catapulted it.

Stan Christopher, the CD, ran an orderly contest and the results were:

1     Bill Watson               31 seconds
2     Pete Bassone            23
3     Lowell Norenberg       23
4     Don Smith                16
5     Will Woods               14
6     Don Martin               12
7     Dave Gee                 10

I was timing so I didn't get any in-flight photos, at least not any good enough to post.

However, I did get a photo of the CD calling the contest to order and the group shot afterwards.

We also had someone who read about it on a forum (this is not the only one I post with this) show up for the meeting and to observe the contest.  Looks like he will be in the next one.  If you're in the area come on down!

Next contest, No-Cal pusher.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on May 25th, 2017 at 1:04pm
Judging by what was being test flown and trimmed at the O.F.F.C. session yesterday the No-Cal Pusher contest, next Wednesday (5/31), will be a very interesting contest.  There will be at least three Hansa Jets, three F7U Cutlass, a J7W Shinden, a Vari-Viggen, and an early bird canard that I have not been able to identify. (Of course, I could have asked.)  Of nothing interrupts my building this weekend (Like, when does that ever happen?) I will have either an A7 Corsair II or a J37 Viggen to to along with my Cutlass.

If anyone will be in the area next Wednesday morning drop by Stonehurst Recreation Center.  The meeting is at 9:00 AM, all welcome, and the contest starts at 10.

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Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 8th, 2017 at 2:49pm
The No-Cal Pusher contest was held last week.  Someone made the comment that for a local club it was really amazing to have nine contestants show up for an "oddball" contest on a weekday morning.  Timing was the best two of five attempts.

The results were:

1.     Jim Lueken          Bleriot V                119.9 seconds    
2.     Joe Whiting         JW7 Shinden             89.1
3.     Bill Watson          Vari-Viggen              87.1
4.     Don Smith           Hansa Jet                82.5
5.     Dave Gee            So8000 Narval          72.0
6.     Don Butman         Hansa Jet                61.3
7.     Howard Littman    F7U Cutlass              57.9
8.     Stan Christopher  F7U Cutlass              23.3   (One Flight)
9.     Lowell Norenberg (Didn't see it)             N/A

The winning Bleriot was the smallest entry, more peanut size than No-Cal.  The model was much more successful than the real airplane which only flew for about 20 feet in 1907, although it was the first Bleriot aircraft to actually get off the ground.   

Joe Whiting had been carefully trimming the Shinden for some time and it flew flawlessly.

Bill Watson's Vari-Viggen was one of his usual flawless constructions and flew smoothly.

The Hansa Jets usually fly well.  Don Butman, who bristles at the rules requiring tissue covering (He does gorgeous work with Microlite.) won with his the previous time this contest was held.

Dave Gee's Narval was untested and, as Dave had to go to an appointment, it was trimmed and proxy flown by Will Woods.

My Cutlass was a new one built from reject parts (I save parts sheets the have flaws that I would not send to a customer but, are otherwise OK to built with, for my own use.) and was also untested.  I got it trimmed out then had the motor stick rip out while winding.  (Yes, I didn't use enough glue at just the wrong place.)  I stuck it back together with CA and Scotch tape and tried to re-trim it.  It needed more rubber to climb but I put in a little too much and had it skimming the ceiling, with all the attendant obstacles and most of my flights ended with impacts with the lights although much to everyone's surprise it recovered.  I trimmed it properly at yesterday's meeting. (So what?)

Stan was having some trouble trimming his to circle in the room and crashed it beyond repair at the site.

I didn't see Lowell come in so I don't know what happened to his model.

Anyway, it was a good contest.  Sorry, I was too busy putting my model back together to get any pictures.  I will post some as I get them from other members.

There are two contests this month Spot Landing/Predicted Time and Legal Eagle.  The first is outdoors next week and the flying starts at 8:00 AM to take advantage of the predicted (Hoped for!) dead air.

Spot Landing/Predicted Time Rules

1.  Any rubber powered model that is capable of taking off from a card table.
2.  Minimum flight on each task is 15 seconds
3.  Task one:  Predict your flight time from lift off to touch down BEFORE launching the model.  The timer will write it down then you can launch.  Timing is to the nearest 1/10 second.
4.  Task two:  Land closest to the flag planted in the middle of the field.  A tape measure is attached to the flagpole and is used to measure to the closest part of the model.
5.  There are 5 attempts allowed for each task.
6.  Both tasks can be accomplished on the same flight.
7.  The contestant may move the card table to any position on the field before launching the model.

This is really a lot of fun.  One year I predicted a 34 second flight, flew 34.4 seconds and finished third!

The Legal Eagle contest is on the 28th and is standard Legal Eagle structural rules with 5 R.O.G. flights allowed.

Meeting at 9:00 AM and flying starts at 10:00.  If you can make it, please, join us.

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 8th, 2017 at 3:44pm
Thanks for the report...any pictures?
Tom

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:04pm
I've posted the group photo, that I promised, from the No-Cal Pusher contest last month.  Quality could be better, it's a scan of a printed photo but, you get the idea.

The Spot Landing/Predicted Time contest went off this morning.  Weather was beautiful and the wind didn't blow the contest out till about 10:30.  It was quite well attended. (All 18 donuts disappeared.)  Some unusual models were flown including an obscure Comet kit called the Scorpion, a all balsa ROG that was actually designed for the contest, a Bostonian, a helicopter, and my Crash Box Special (or Junkyard Dog, if you prefer).

The results were:

Spot Landing

1.     Stan Christopher             4'4"" from the flag
2.     Dave Gee                      6'11"
3.     Bill Watson                    11'6"
4.     John Buntin                   32'5'
5.     Barry Dougherty             42'5"

No one else got close enough to measure with the 50 foot tape.

Predicted Time

1.     Dave Gee                       0.1 seconds off predicted flight time
2.     Don Butman                    0.1   Tie broken by times on next best flights.
3.     Howard Littman               0.6
4.     Stan Christopher             1.3
5.     Barry Dougherty              1.7
6.     Don Martin                     1.7   Tie broken by times on next best flights.
7.     Bill Watson                     1.8
8.     Wynn Hammer                 4.5
9.     John Buntin                    7.1

There were some other models flown but some were damaged beyond repair before getting an official flight.

My personal effort was a bit of a saga. I broke the motor stick on the Crash Box Special just after take off on five attempts!  Thinking I should give up on that one I asked Dave if he had any slip togethers so that at least I could get an official flight.  He gave me a Guillow's Jetstream.  On it's first take off it crashed breaking the prop in half.  He gave me another Guillow's red prop.  I put it on and wound the model.  Just I got it wound (F.A.I. Tan, not the "blue band") the freewheel notch broke off the prop.  So, I glued the Crash Box Special back together one more time, wound it up and, just as I took the winder off the motor the motor broke.  I made another motor and got two flights on the board before the contest ended.  Let's just say it was not my best day!  ::)

In two weeks Legal Eagle.  Come join the fun!
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 14th, 2017 at 5:33pm
Looks like everyone had a great time!  Love all the pushers.  Gotta try some of them!
Tom

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Post by pb_guy on Jun 14th, 2017 at 8:07pm
Looks like some YFF's in with the OFF's in that second pic.  ;D

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Post by bigrip74 on Jun 16th, 2017 at 9:32am
Howard, nice group that you belong to. I only have one in my club. ME! I love seeing your photos of the group and the venues. Keep them coming.

Bob

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 16th, 2017 at 1:44pm
Here's a video of Dave Gee's Comet Scorpion flying at the contest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8vBzUxq5ZU&feature=youtu.be

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Post by bigrip74 on Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm
Howard, thanks for the video. I wanted to go fly so bad it hurt after watching the beautiful Comet Scorpion.

Bob

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 29th, 2017 at 2:07pm
The Legal Eagle contest was on Wednesday the 26th.  It went smoothly but to say it went well would be overstating the case. There were eight entrants but only four of them were able to get official flights.  All flights were ROG and a minimum of 20 seconds was required for an official flight.  Each contestant had six attempts and the time was the best three of six.

The problem was that we had old guys flying old airplanes.  Light flying models only last so long.  When you keep them for years they acquire damage and repairs which adds weight and changes the trim..  A winning model from a few years back might have trim problems now that keep it from making the official flight minimum.  Example was Bill Watson who built a new model for the contest (his first Legal Eagle) and ran away with it.

The results were:

Bill Watson                           290.0 seconds
Joe Whiting                          166.8
Don Butman                          117.0
Stan Christopher                   114.0

No one else got an official flight.

Yes, I know I said I was going to have my new One Night In Jail in the contest, but I got so involved with other things that I didn't finish it in time and I destroyed the old one when I tried to put it on a diet. So, I did some timing and took pictures.

Here is the group picture from the end of the contest and a link to a video of Bill Watson flying his winning model for the camera after his official flights.    The flight was intended to be short enough for my old cell phone to transmit to my computer but it was still too long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbtuZR6REUM
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Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 29th, 2017 at 8:31pm
Congrats to Bill and thanks for the report and great video.  What a nice slow flight.  Amazing nose high attitude.
Tom

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Post by Kittyfritters on Jul 27th, 2017 at 1:39pm
Last Wednesday, July 26th, was the Penny Plane contest. 

I'll have to admit that Penny Plane is not my thing, I don't build that light.  Also, the contest can be a bit tedious since the flights and the prep between them can take some time.   Once again, it proved that these extremely light models are difficult to store for any length of time.  Several models could not complete the full number of attempted flights due to accumulated damage. 

Bill Watson built a new one for the contest and walked away with it.  He said that he was going to get four minute flights in that room and he did.  Also, there was a first, for me anyway, in this kind of flying...an in flight structural failure that actually destroyed the model! Shocked  Don Butman was not intending his fourth flight to be the last one of the day but a few seconds into the flight the motor stick simply disintegrated under the tension of the rubber (.075!) and the rest of the model simply fell to the floor in a heap.  For a contest where the flights are usually as exciting as watching paint dry that was positively horrifying!

The contest was done on a total of the best two flights of five attempts with a minimum of 20 seconds to be an official flight.  (Yes, if trimmed wrong a Penny Plane can fly for less than 20 seconds!) and all contestants models were weighed for a 3 gram minimum. 

The results were:

1.     Bill Watson              3.2 g           474.6 seconds
2.     Bud Matthews          5.13            290.36
3.     Don Butman             6.8             240                     3 flights
4.     Don Martin               6.9             226                     3 flights
5.     Stan Christopher       6.6             169                     2 flights
6.     Lowell Norenberg       4.5              97.36                 2 flights

Pete Bassone's model was damaged during pre-contest trimming and was not flown in competition.

Still, despite the frustrations it was an interesting contest and the members had fun (See smiles in group shot.).

We did have a visitor to the contest who will likely be joining the group.  The invitation still stands to anyone who is in the area on Wednesday mornings to come to our meeting and flying session.  Meetings start at 9:00 AM and flying from 10 to Noon at the Stonehurst Recreation Center gym, 9901 Dronfield Avenue, Sun Valley, California.

Next contest is August 30.  The subject is Peanut Scale.  Scale judging is modified Mooney judging not full on FAC rules.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 27th, 2017 at 5:14pm
KF...thanks for the report and the pic.  Looks like everyone had fun.  Too bad I don't live closer, it'd be fun to join in with y'all.

Keep the reports coming! 
Tom

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Post by Kittyfritters on Aug 30th, 2017 at 2:44pm
I apologize for not reporting promptly on the Peanut Scale contest.  I did not attend because of some personal business but will report as soon as I get the results.

Howard

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Post by Kittyfritters on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:20pm
I did not attend the contest so I'm copying Dave Gee's report of the contest from the Black Sheep Squadron newsletter.

Fliers were Don Martin, Don Smith, John Buntin, Joe Whiting, Don Butman, Dave Gee, and Bill Watson. 11 entries made for a wide and varied field.
The planes included 2 Fikes, 2 Piper Cubs, a Farman Moustique, Yak 5, SE5a, Pietenpol, 1910 Faris monoplane, Rearwin Speedster, and a Heath Racer. Some were old models, well-trimmed. Others were brand new and untested until the very day.

This year's rules favored flying over scale, with Mooney judging adding only a few bonus points based on how well each plane did in comparison to the others. The 10 second ROG bonus per flight was used by surprisingly few contestants.

Peanut is a challenging category, especially in the small OFFC gym. Things were complicated by a minor fuss with the leader of the preschool kids, who refused to compromise on floor space. Having a table of little kids in the middle of the room is a factor that the Reno Air Races never faced. We flew over their heads and into the table-legs, and forged ahead.

Bill Watson finished in first place with an immaculate Fike, steadily flown. Dave managed second with his long-nosed 1910 Faris eindekker. Don Butman again showed that he makes 'em fly as well as they look, with a third place Rearwin. Joe Whiting had disagreements with his SE5a, and had to settle for 4th place.

Thanks to Stan for timing, Pete for keeping such careful records of the contest, and Will for these pictures.


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Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:19am
Thanks Howard for the report and looks like inspite of the "center pylon" they had a good time and looks like some great models in attendance.

Congratulations to the winner and those who placed.  I'm sure they all had a good time!
Tom

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Post by pb_guy on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:10am
Nice looking group of planes for a short build. Perhaps the OFFC should have a Grandkids flyoff. The OFF's can do the building, but the grandkids would have to do the flying. (It would be permissible to hire/borrow a grandchild if you didn't have one on hand).  ;D
ian

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by bigrip74 on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:14am

pb_guy wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:10am:
Nice looking group of planes for a short build. Perhaps the OFFC should have a Grandkids flyoff. The OFF's can do the building, but the grandkids would have to do the flying. (It would be permissible to hire/borrow a grandchild if you didn't have one on hand).  ;D
ian


That, I would like to see ;D

Bob

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Sep 28th, 2017 at 8:17pm
Once again I did not attend the O.F.F.C. monthly contest.  This time it was because I am recovering from my birthday present last Friday, a new right hip.  I have been assured that I will be receiving photos and video to post along with the results.  I will post as soon as I get them.

Howard

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by LASTWOODSMAN on Sep 29th, 2017 at 8:47am
Hi Howard - wishing you a speedy recovery from your hip replacement surgery.   :)
LWM

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Post by Sky9pilot on Sep 29th, 2017 at 2:43pm
Ditto what LWM said.  Wishing you no pain through your physical therapy.
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Oct 5th, 2017 at 5:00pm
The O.F.F.C. Embryo contest went off smoothly.  From all I have been told, everyone had fun with this contest.  The only detraction was the lights hanging down from the gym ceiling.  The last time this contest was held the gym was lighted by flush mounted florescent lights.  The models could skim the ceiling and contact did not diminish the flight times.  It was not uncommon to get two minute flights in that room.  Now, with the hanging halogen lights, if you get up among the lights you are gambling.  Even the winner, Joe Whiting, of whom it must be said, Embryo is his event, could not get a flight of better than 77 seconds this time.

The rules were:

Model must R.O.G.
Six flights allowed.
Ten second minimum for an official flight.
Score is total of best three flights.

The results:

1.     Joe Whiting                    220.6 seconds
2.     Pete Basone                 155.0
3.     Bill Watson                    154.2
4.     Don Butman                   152.9
5.     Dave Gee                      134.9
6.     Don Martin                      87.7
7.     Don Smith                       82.5
8.     Stan Christopher              81.1
9.     Wynn Hammer                 81.0

There were 9 contestants with 11 models flown.  Scores only counted for best flying models.

The group shot show how happy everyone was with the contest.  Some of the individual shots in the heat of the contest...not so much.

Dave Gee, whose flexibility with the rules of any class can rival the Michlean Man, was setting up his unorthodox entry.  We had our doubts, but it turns out that bizarre configuration is legal.

The next picture is Bill Watson preparing to launch.

The last pictures are Pete Basone and Wynn Hammer just after launch, and Don Butman retrieving his model.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Oct 25th, 2017 at 7:27pm
Today was the O.F.F.C. One Design Contest.  Of the dozen Plain Plane kits I distributed to the members, 8 showed up for the contest.  The model soon proved to be rugged enough for that obstacle filled room.  On many flights they bounced of the lights and basketball backstops, if high enough recovered and continued flying, and only one was damaged.  Everyone covered with tissue, except Don Butman who is the master of plastic film, and most used the kit supplied blue and white tissue.  Everyone had a good time and we had some spectators that came to see the contest who seemed to enjoy themselves watching.

Here is a YouTube video of some of the contest flights. 

https://youtu.be/VLGIjD5NNh0

The results:  (Best 2 of 5 flight plus a 10 second bonus for R.O.G.

1st    Bill Watson                 116.04
2nd   Stan Christopher         105.97
3rd    Bud Matthews              88.33
4th   John Bunton                  72.75
5th   Don Butman                  71.71
6th   Barry Daugherty            71.37
7th   Dave Gee                     37.22
8th   Kurt Young                   Model Damaged

Don Smith was the timer.
Howard Littman (Me) Contest Director and Designer of the model.

Because I was the designer of the model the participants insisted that I get into the group shot.

Next Month...Bostonians!

Keep 'Em Flying!
Howard

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 26th, 2017 at 9:50am
Outstanding Howard....well done!  Congrats to all the participants! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Nov 15th, 2017 at 2:07pm
There was a disagreement with a member of the rec center staff and it looks like we will be meeting on Friday mornings for the next few weeks.  My apologies to anyone who wanted to visit our meeting this morning or made plans to visit us in the next few weeks.  I will keep you posted on any shifts in meeting day.

Howard

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Nov 17th, 2017 at 4:27pm
The meetings and contest of the O.F.F.C. will be on Friday mornings until further notice.  The Stonehurst Rec Center Gym will be closed the day after Thanksgiving, November 24, so the next meeting and the Bostonian contest will be on Friday, December 1.

Howard

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 7th, 2018 at 2:04pm
I have to apologize for my delay in coverage of the O.F.F.C flying.  Due to personal issues I was not able to attend the November and December contests.

In the November “Bostonian” OFFC Contest with a total of 8 contestants. 1st Place went to Pete Basone, 2nd Place went to Joe Whiting and 3rd Place went to Bill Watson.  Sorry, no one passed me any pictures from this one which, since it was Bostonian, should have been one of the more photogenic contests. Oh, well!

Due to a temporary issue, the O.F.F.C. meetings have been held on Friday mornings, so the last O.F.F.C. contest of the year, the Ed Slobod (Memorial) R.O.G. Unlimited Contest was held on Friday, 12/27/2017. This contest is for any rubber powered model capable of R.O.G., which can result in some very interesting entries. I was not present, however I do have the results and pictures courtesy of Bud Matthews.

Results:

1st Bill Watson               311 seconds  (combined best two flights)
2nd Bud Matthews          198
3rd Don Butman              186
4th Jim Lueken               173
5th Don Martin               164
6th Joe Whiting              140
7th Don Smith                120
8th Wynn Hammer            39
Stan Christopher             N/A

The C/D was Bud Matthews

The meetings moved back to Wednesday mornings in January.   Again, meetings start at 9 AM at the Stonehurst Recreation Center gym, in Sun Valley, CA.  Flying is 10 AM to Noon.  Any interested modeler in the area is welcome to attend.

The contest schedule for 2018 is:

Date          Contest              CD
Jan 31        Minnow ROG        John Buntin
Feb 28        No-Cal Zipper      Bud Matthews    (This is a one design for the No-Cal model of the Comet Zipper...a model of a model!)
Mar 28        Catapult Glider    Stan Christopher
Apr 25        Legal Eagle         Dave Gee
May 30       P-18                  Barry Daugherty  (This is usually a one design, the P-18 Hawk, if not I'll keep you posted.)
Jun 15        Spot/Time           Dave Gee           (Outdoor contest, spot landing and predicted flight time.)
Jun 27        Penny Plane        Jim Lueken
July 25       Dime Scale          Joe Whiting         (Joe calls this 9 cent scale since it has relaxed rules.)
Aug 29       A-6                    Howard Littman
Sep 26       Unlimited Scale     Bill Watson
Oct 31       Mini Stick             Don Martin
Nov 28       No-Cal Scale        Will  Woods
Dec 28       R.O.G. Unlimited    Ed Slobod (FBTG)

CD  issues the rules for each meet at the beginning of the month, possibly with customized requirements.  No griping!  Dissenters are invited to volunteer as a CD next year.
Other unlisted events are possible,
Anyone requesting another event will be the CD for that event!

The contest, January 31st, was for Minnow. John Bunton was the CD who specified that models were to be built “per plan.” Well you know how that goes but they all met the spirit of the plan.

Results were:
1. Bill Watson (Black Wing)         3:31.34 (Times are combined best 2 of 5 flights)
2. Don Smith                            2:26.80
3. Jim Lukins                            2:23.74
4. Pete Bassone                        2:20.08
5. Will Woods                           2:18.05
6. Bud Matthews                       2:12.35
7. Don Butman                          2:05.12
8. Barry Dougherty                    1:46.45
9. Don Martin                           1:43.90
10. Stan Christopher                 1:18.30
11. Howard Littman                   1:13.40
Bill Watson (Red Wing)               2:51.48 (Second model, only best counts.)

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Feb 8th, 2018 at 9:28am
Thanks Howard for the update...love the way you institute rule changes and new events for your meets. 
Tom

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 10:51pm
No Cal Zipper is not my contest, so I was one of the timers.  The contest went off very well and everyone had fun including the spectators.  Since I am the editor of the Black Sheep Squadron newsletter I decided to get lazy on the reporting and simply post the O.F.F.C. page from the newsletter with the results of the contest.  I also posted some of the pictures that didn't get into the newsletter.

Oh, yes.  The club motto translates very loosely to, "We Eat (donuts), We Talk, We Fly".
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 11:06pm
Here are some of the other pictures.

Bill Watson is assessing the quality of the flight just after launch.  The launch was R.O.G. and in the direction of the camera so the model has already done 270 degrees of its first circle.

Don Butman is giving the "Say what?" look to something that Jim Luekin just said.  Notice that Don was one of the color scheme "rebels".

A model from one of the other "rebels" on the stooge.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 12:09am
I've been a bit sick for a couple of weeks, something my wife brought home from the office, and didn't want to expose the old guys in the O.F.F.C. to what I had.  (Yes, the old guys, I'm only 74.)  Consequently, I didn't go to the Cat Glider contest last Wednesday.  (My canard cat glider, with the spring loaded flapper canard, wasn't flying well, indoors, anyway.)  Apparently, everyone thinks they can catch something by e-mail because no one passed on the results to me!  I have attached the O.F.F.C. page from the Black Sheep Squadron newsletter.  When I find out the contest standings I'll post them.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 11:37am
Nice of our wives being so good to share things with us...I to have been sick with an old fashioned chest cold, lots of wheezing, coughing and hacking!!!!  Thanks for sharing the newsletter and the pics of the He-100 are outstanding.  I especially like that he made a NoCal too.  Gonna have to find that issue of the FAC newsletter.
Tom

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Apr 6th, 2018 at 12:45pm
I finally received the results of the Cat Glider Contest.

O.F.F.C. CAT GLIDER CONTEST
Score is best flight of 3 sets of 3 attempts.
1.      Bill Watson                31.6
2.      Jim Leuken            24.4
3.      Pete Basone            24.3
4.     Lowell Norenberg      21.0
5.      Don Smith                    19.8
6.      Don Martin                    18.2
7.      Bud Matthews            15.0
Wynn Hammer                     n/a

I did attend the next meeting and once again Don Butman arrived with interesting models.  This time it was a Spitfire from Guillow's plans circa 1940.  The original model had a 24 inch wing span but Don doesn't usually build that large so he reduced the size to 20 inches.  He also added his own touches such as a one piece wing held on by magnets and, of course, he had to build a No-Cal version of it also.

Bud Mathews brought in an Arf-A-Senator.  He suggested that we include an Arf-A-Senator No-Cal contest later in the year.  He seems to like models of models!  Anyway, the members present agreed, and according to club rules, Bud was appointed CD of the added event.

April Contest is Legal Eagle.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:35pm
Legal Eagle was the O.F.F.C. contest for April and it was well attended with 11 contestants.  The field quickly separated into two groups, the over 100 seconds crowd and the under 100 seconds crowd.  Most of the designs flown were well known.  The iconoclasts were myself and Dave Gee.  Dave threw a new wrinkle into Legal Eagle with a scale (Well, sort of.  It's standoff scale if you're standing far enough away.) model of a Spitfire that met the rules.  I thought about this and suggested that maybe we should have a scale Legal Eagle competition in the future but I was shouted down on that idea.  I flew my One Night in Jail, an idea that I have almost given up after the showing last month.

Anyway, the results were

Place   Name                                                    Time in seconds.
1.        Bill Watson                                             220.3
2.        Joe Whiting                                            184.3
3.        Don Butman                                           146.3
4.        Pete Basone                                           104.5
5.        Howard Littman                                        74.4
6.        Dave Gee                                                63.9
7.        Don Smith                                               59.8
8.        John Buntin                                             44.0
9.        Lowell Norenberg                                      35.2
10.      Wynn Hammer                                          23.6
11.      Stan Christopher                                        7.0

Part of the spread was due to some of the guys needing to build new models because the old ones are worn out and part of it comes under the old bit of advise, "Don't Crash!"  However, everyone had fun as is evidenced by the smiling faces in the post contest group photo.

The May contest is P-18 "Hawk" one design.  CD was making noises about requiring stock, per plan, front ends this time.  We shall see...
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by bigrip74 on May 4th, 2018 at 8:33pm
I like that Spitfire [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Bob

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on May 16th, 2018 at 10:21pm
At today's O.F.F.C. meeting the question of the P-18s for the contest being built "to plan" was settled.  Stan gave out the official rules and they specified the North Pacific prop and front end "with no upgrades".  Dave Gee surprised everyone by supplying, from his amazing stash, a new, unused, North Pacific front end to everyone who said they were going to fly in the contest.  I do have some in my "stash" but they are all used and a bit sloppy.  This will ensure as level a playing field for this contest as can be had!

Error in my last post...Stan Christopher did not fly in the Legal Eagle contest.  Someone entered his name on the score sheet, with an insulting 7 seconds, and I did not question it.  My apologies to Stan!
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 4:05pm
The P-18 contest was held on April 30.  Although a contest for models that tend to float around in a stately fashion it was quite exciting to watch.  Maybe this is even more so because of the obstructions in the flying site.  More interesting are the varying techniques used to try to get maximum performance in this site by modelers flying essentially the same model.  Some contestants tried to keep their flights just below the hanging lights while others went for the ceiling while attempting a tight enough turn to circle the center light while avoiding the other lights.  The launch techniques varied from a normal hand launch to trying to launch as low to the floor as possible.  Of course, any contact with the lights or the backstop hoisting cables destroyed any planned flight pattern, but because of the P-18 design's phenomenal recover characteristics, did not usually end a flight simply made it more interesting.

The pictures:

The group shot after the contest,

Bill Watson doing a low to the floor launch,

Stan Christopher watching his model climb.


The results were:
Place      Name               Time in seconds
1.      Pete Basone          191.3
2.      Lowell Norenberg   170.9
3.      Will Woods            166.9
4.      Bill Watson            166.0
5.      Don Smith             138.2
6.      Don Martin            124.6
7.      Stan Christopher    111.3
8.      John Buntin             88.5

CD      Barry Dougherty

June has two contests, the outdoor Spot Landing/Predicted Time contest on the 13th and Penny Plane on the 27th.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 4:08pm
And, a few more pictures from the P-18 Contest.

The timing table with Kurt Young timing, Barry Dougherty (CD) recording, and Bud Matthews kibitzing.

Pete Basone's little corner of the gym getting his model ready.

Jim Leuken assisting Bill Watson winding his model.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 4:12pm
Great stuff...thanks for sharing!
Tom

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 30th, 2018 at 7:15pm
June was the two contest month for the O.F.F.C., Spot Landing/Predicted Time and Penny Plane.

Spot Landing/Predicted Time is the only outdoor contest in the O.F.F.C. schedule.  There was an interesting selection of models flown from Guillow's slip-togethers to scratch built models done just for the competition. I put a new motor stick on my Crash Box Special but didn't get a chance to test it before the contest day. I arrived late after dropping my grandson off at Cooking Camp (He didn't want to go to Science Camp this year.) and the wind was up.  The best I could do was 5th in both Spot Landing (49 feet on a 50 foot max) and 2 seconds off my predicted time.  This year you didn't just call out your time at launch, you had to write your time on the tally board before you took your model out to the field for an attempt.  Five attempts were allowed.

I've attached the pages on the contests from the July Black Sheep Newsletter for photos and details.  There is a picture of my model riding a thermal at the outdoor contest, I got it a bit too high going for a 36 second time.  The end of that flight is shown by the photo I posted.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Jun 30th, 2018 at 8:11pm
Great stuff, thanks for sharing this with us.  I see in the last picture that plane eating fences as well as plane eating trees are prevalent no matter where you fly!! ;D ;)
Thanks again Howard!
Tom

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jul 29th, 2018 at 3:10pm
July 25th was the O.F.F.C. Dime Scale Contest, or as the CD, Joe Whiting says, 9 Cent Scale, due to the relaxed rules.  In this case, it was judging only for extra points, 5 points for low wing, 10 points for biplane, and an extra 10 points for ROG. The contest was for best single flight of unlimited tries,  The model had to have a maximum 16” wing span, be made of only 1/16” stock and be a “recognizable scale” model of an aircraft that flew before 1945.  Reproduction dime scale models with additional plastic parts were allowed, (“Sure, if they don’t mind the extra weight, let them fly.” Joe)

Only five members had models ready for the event.  That was partially because we were not sure it was going to happen since the refinishing of the gym floor was supposed to commence on the 25th. Even with only five entrants there were nine models flown.  The outside temperature was 110°(F) so the air conditioning was on full in the room. The turbulent air made for some interesting flights and despite the small number of contestants it was fun to watch.

Results:  (Only best flying models of multiple entries counted.)

1,   Joe Whiting      Howard DGA           56.7
2.   Bill Watson       Wiley Post Biplane   50.3
3.   Don Butman     Farman Moustique   40.0
4.   Don Smith        Rearwin Speedster  17.4
5.   John Buntin      J-3 Cub                  12.3

Will Woods recorded times.  Kurt Young and Howard Littman did the timing.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Aug 1st, 2018 at 5:48pm
We thought that we were going to be out of the Stonehurst gym for the month of August while the floor was being refinished.  Didn't make sense that the floor needed refinishing let alone that it would take a month to refinish the floor, but OK.  We looked for another temporary venue and were offered the gym at Branford Park, 13306 Branford St., Arleta, CA 91331, for our meetings August 15 and 22.  We decided to meet today and next week, August 08, under the trees on the Stonehurst field and have an outdoor session.   We don't know yet where the August 29 A6 contest will be held which particularly bothered me since I am the CD for that event.  I will make a post when that is decided.

When we got to Stonehurst this morning it became obvious why the "refinishing" of the floor would take a month.  They are not refinishing the floor, they are replacing it with an entire new flooring system.  The meeting went well this morning. We brought our camp chairs and a couple of camp tables and had our meeting in the shade of the trees and walked out into the open field to launch outdoor models.  It was a little breezy but we had no flyaways and only one model, a cat glider, had to be poled out of a tree. 

More later,

KF

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Aug 8th, 2018 at 3:19pm
We had another outdoor meeting today.  It was too breezy to fly anything not radio controlled so while we sat under the trees and had the meeting we were entertained by Ira Ratner with two RC foamies a T-28 and a Cessna and by Bill Watson with his Jetstream glider.  He is a master at Hy-start launches.

More later,
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Aug 15th, 2018 at 10:47pm
We met at the Branford Park gym this morning.  No meeting room, as we have at Stonehurst, but the gym, as a flying venue is better.  The air conditioning is gentle and, although it has an open truss roof, the bottoms of the roof trusses are noticeably higher than the ceiling at Stonehurst.  If a model gets stuck in the roof trusses we can retrieve it with a pole whereas if it goes into one of the "black holes" in the Stonehurst ceiling it gone until something up there needs maintenance.

Unfortunately, there was a notice on the gym door informing us that the gym will be closed for two weeks starting on the 27th to refinish the floor!  We're still looking for a venue for the A6 contest on the 29th.

Howard

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Aug 30th, 2018 at 9:12pm
For the month of August the O.F.F.C. was a club in search of a venue. We were chased from the Stonehurst Rec Center because the gym floor was being replaced. The first two meetings were held outdoors, under the trees, on the Stonehurst field. This did not provide an environment for trimming an A6. Thanks to the efforts of Don Martin and Kathy Mader from the Seniors Programs at the Parks Department we were able to hold the next two meetings at the Branford Park gym. Then we were barred from there because that gym floor was being refinished. So, effort was made again and we held the A6 contest at the Panorama Park rec center, probably the smallest venue we have held a contest.

The results were:
1. Bill Watson     272 seconds
2. Pete Basone   206.8
3. Jim Leuken     182.5
4. Don Butman   148.3
Howard Littman was the CD and along with Kurt Young and John Buntin did the timing.

The next meeting will be on September 5th and, as far as we know, will be at the Panorama Park rec center, 8600 Hazeltine Ave, Panorama City.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Sep 11th, 2018 at 1:04pm
It appears that we will be in the Panorama City Park location for the next few weeks.  The floor renovations at Stonehurst and Branford are going slowly.  This is not good for the upcoming Unlimited Scale event since the Panorama venue is minimal size.  At tomorrows meeting we will discuss the possibility of making it an outdoor event at Stonehurst.

Two weeks ago, we had a discussion about the Black Sheep Squadron having a rubber powered dirigible at the AMA EXPO in November.  During the following week Bill Watson built one and brought it for testing at the O.F.F.C. meeting.   (See photos)

Howard
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Sep 21st, 2018 at 10:54am
We did not have an  O.F.F.C. meeting this week.  Don, our president, could not contact any of the three venues we have on the phone to confirm availability.  We are still searching for a venue for next week's Unlimited Scale contest.  Panorama is unsuitable being the smallest venue we fly in since some of the indoor scale ships have 30 inch wing spans and do not turn that tight, and it has a really fierce air conditioning system that we cannot shut off for the contest.  The floor replacement at Stonehurst is progressing slower than predicted and painting the markings on the new floor may still be in progress next week.  We have not yet heard if Branford will be available.  We have approached the CD, Bill Watson, with the possibility of having the contest outdoors at Stonehurst or postponing it again.  Will post the decision by Tuesday.

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Sep 24th, 2018 at 4:21pm
Per Don Martin, President, and Bill Watson, CD,

The Unlimited Scale Contest will be held Wednesday, Sept. 26, 9:00 AM, outdoors, at Stonehurst.

Don called the park staff and they will turn the sprinklers off Tuesday and Wednesday morning so that the field will be dry for us.

Don't be too enthusiastic about what you bring to fly...its outdoors, but the field is a bit smaller than the Grassy Knoll.

KF

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Nov 9th, 2018 at 10:40pm
OK, I did compete in the Unlimited Scale contest on September 26th, but did so badly that I was embarrassed to post about it.  For continuity's sake I may as well get it over with.

The contest was, indeed, held outdoors at Stonehurst.  It really was a beautiful morning, clear, and only a slight breeze.  The wind held off until 11:00 AM.  Eight people flew but there were 13 models.  Amazingly enough, Bill Watson brought only one entry.  Dave Gee brought a Dumas T-34 and a Clipped Wing Monocoupe.  Barry Dougherty brought a Piper Cub as did Bill Watson and Don Butman who brought two and a peanut Pilatus Porter.  Don Smith had a Comet Porterfield.  Don Martin showed up with a Guillow's Cessna 180 and Hugh Lnaghans ahd an Aeronca Champ.  I had nothing new to fly my SE5 being framed but uncovered (I did start the covering at the AMA EXPO but that's a post of another thread.) so I took a couple of my Beaver prototypes and a Pilatus Porter prototype down from the ceiling and put fresh rubber in them.

The strange thing was that with all the experience there and good weather everyone was having trouble getting anything to fly.  It was nearly the end of the session when models started flying.  Scale judging was a Mooney linup

The results were:


    1. Dave Gee                Monocoupe                                 101.2 seconds  (includesl 16 scale points)
    2.  Don Smith              Porterfield                                   96.1 seconds  (10 points)
    3.  Bill Watson             Piper Cub                                    62.0 seconds  (14 points)
    4.  Don Butman            Pilatus Porter                               59.7 seconds   (6 points)
    5.  Barry Daugherty      Piper Cub                                    46.8 seconds   (15 points)
    6.  Don Martin             Cessna 180                                  46.1 seconds   (12 points)
    7.  Howard Littman       Beaver (U-6B)                              38.7 seconds   (8 points)
    8. Hugh Langhans        Aeronca                                      36.8 seconds   (4 points)




My Porter and one of my Beavers ended up cartwheeling in and tearing their wings off.  Should have left them on the ceiling. Six years ago, when they were built, I could get a minute out of them.  Oh, Well!

I did not go to the Mini-Stick contest on October 31.  It was Halloween and I had to put up the decorations before the Trick-or-Treating started.  No one gave me any pictures or any times.
  The results were:


    [li]1. Bill Watson
    2. Bill Watson  (With so few entries the CD decided to let both of his count.)
    3. Jim Leuken
    4.Bud Matthews
    5.Don Butman
    [/li]


The next contest, No-Cal Scale, will be on November 28.  With the Pearl Harbor No-Cal contest coming up on December 7 I expect that there will be many Pearl Harbor models at this contest.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Dec 15th, 2018 at 2:23pm
Time to catch up with the year.  When we last left our intrepid fliers they were getting ready for the No-Cal Scale contest at the end of November.  The usual location, Stonehurst Rec Center gym, was available.  After the one hour meeting the contest commenced.

Firstly, the designated CD was not present.  Kurt Young, who did not bring a model, "volunteered" to be the CD, record keeper and timer.  The contest, for some reason (Remember, we're a bunch of old guys, @#%^ happens!), was not as well attended as one expects for a No-Cal contest with only five members bringing models. Some brought more than one, but the CD decided only the best flying model counted for scoring.

The only new models were the Zero by Bill Watson and the Heinkel 119 by Dave Gee.  Bill also brought a Fike which is usually a "sure thing" at a No-Cal contest.  The Heinkel, by proportion and layout, and at just over 5 grams, looked like a sure thing but proved almost impossible to trim.  Jim Leuken brought a Bucker Jungmeister being proxy flown for Dave Saks.  Jim Leuken's gentle flying Bleriot pusher (A model of the first airplane Bleriot actually got to fly, although the No-Cal model can stay in the air longer than the real airplane.) has been at previous contests and Don Butman's PZL (Actually, he, being a bit OCD, brought two of them.) is an extremely reliable flier.  I was going to bring my new F2A to fly and trim for the upcoming Pearl Harbor contest, but since I had not built it yet I patched up my much trashed, old P-36/Hawk 75 with Scotch Tape and tissue and flew it.

The results were:

1.  Bill Watson          Zero    191.4
2.  Jim Leuken          Bleriot 154.8
3.  Don Butman        PZL      133.2
4.  Howard Littman   P-36       71.6
5.  Dave Saks           Bucker    69.7
6.  Dave Gee            Heinkel   14.1

The December contest is, as usual, the Ed Slobad Memorial R.O.G. Unlimited contest for any rubber powered model that will R.O.G.  This can be very interesting since the Penny Planes with landing gear don't always win.



 
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Dec 29th, 2018 at 1:05am
The December O.F.F.C. contest is ROG Unlimited.  The CD is listed as Ed Slobod (FBTG).  The FBTG stands from From Beyond The Grave since the contest is a memorial to Ed.  The contest is for any rubber powered model airplane that will ROG.  It was held on Boxing Day this year and was attended and due to timing and circumstances attracted five entries.
 
Bill Watson flew a model that he designed just for the contest.  It was a small ROG with film covered wings and a rolled tube motor stick.  His best two out of five flight score was 341.4 seconds!  That’s 5 minutes and 69 seconds in the Stonehurst gym with the air conditioner/heater running.  His best flight was a little over 4 minutes.

Joe Whiting came In second at 107.2 seconds flying an Embryo.  I was third at 80.2 seconds flying an old Minnow with patched tissue and wings that had so many breaks that half the weight of the airframe was glue.  Don Smith had an equally old Minnow.  I had to leave early so I don’t know the significance of the notation on the timing sheet “STOMPED ON PLANE” in the third flight column in Don’s row.  Winn Hammer got in some flights but could not get the model to ROG.

At this writing I have not received any photos from the contest.

The members have decided the schedule for 2019:
Month            Model                        CD
January 30              Minnow                          Will Woods
February 27      Bostonian                          Hugh Langhans
March 27              Delta Dart (Build on Site)      Dave Gee
April 24            Catapult Glider                  Howard Littman
May 29            Legal Eagle                   Bud Matthews
June 12            Outdoor Spot/Time            Dave Gee
June 26            A-6                               Jim Lueken
July 31            Dime Scale                          Joe Whiting
August 28              Phantom Flash                  Don Martin
September 25      One Design                  Dave Gee and Bill Watson
October 30              No Cal                        Don Butman
November 27      P-18                         Barry Dougherty
December 18      R.O.G. Unlimited                    Ed Slobod (FBTG)

Don Martin has retired from the presidency of the group and Bill Watson has assumed the office.

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 7:02pm
The first O.F.F.C .  contest of 2019 was for the old, reliable Minnows.  On Wednesday, January 30 seven members battled for supremacy.  It’s hard to get a really bad flight with a Minnow but getting great flights under a 24 foot ceiling that only has 22 feet of clear space (Yes, the dangling halogen lights are an improvement…Not!) takes real skill and some luck.  Some of us were flying new ones built in the last two weeks and some old and patched.

The results were:
1.      Bill Watson                  220.39   seconds
2.      Pete Basone                    145.00
3.      Don Butman                    132.00
4.      Howard Littman                    131.84
5.      Don Smith                  123.39
6.      Don Martin                  113.39
7.      Wynn Hammer                      52.19

The February contest will be Bostonians.

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 2nd, 2019 at 4:01pm
The second O.F.F.C. contest of the year, Bostonian, was held on February 27th.  Hugh Langhans was the CD.

There was a mix of new and old reliable models.  Bill Watson brought a new model that was not only a brilliant example of a built to the rules Bostonian but used innovative structural techniques.  Other models, new or not, were proven designs.  Bill also brought a Bostonian T-craft.  I don't know which one he got his best flight with.

I flew my original Irish Jumping Bean but only got two flights with it.  The first was under wound and too short.  The second was over wound and made like a pinball between the lights hanging from the ceiling.  I figured I had the winding dialed in but while putting in in the stooge to wind for my third flight I broke the wing tip and while trying to fix that broke the landing gear out of the fuselage. (I didn't start flying indoor until 2009 and don't have well developed motion control synergies for handling smaller, relatively delicate models.  Have to work on this.  Getting old ain't for sissies!) Oh, well, I have another Jumping Bean on the bench and I had to leave early anyway.

The results were:

1st  Pete Basone.          105.7
2nd Joe Whiting.          104.6
3rd Bill Watson.              90.5
4th Don Butman.            80.3
5th Howard Littman.      61.5
6th Don Smith.                23.6
7th Wynn Hammer.        N/A

The pictures are Pete Basone waiting his turn to fly, Bill Watson with his new model, Bill's Bostonian T-craft, the timing table with Kurt Young, Stan Christopher, Hugh Langhans timing and John Veal watching.  When I get the group picture I will post it.

The next contest will be Build-On-Site Delta Dart.  Materials supplied by CD but we can bring our own rubber.  Should be interesting!
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 2nd, 2019 at 4:22pm
OK, Hugh Langhans just sent me the group picture so here it is. The other pictures are Joe Whiting winding his model, and Don Butman checking on the time of his last flight.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 21st, 2019 at 3:43pm
Well, the Old Farts have done it again!  There will be an off the schedule contest in August shoehorned between the Dime Scale and Phantom Flash contests.  Jim Leuken came up with the idea and, according to club rules, since he came up with it, he has to be the CD for it.   ;D

The contest will be RUBBER PAYLOAD.  Jim brought the proposed rules to the meeting, yesterday, and the group discussed it.  In spite of (or maybe because of) Dave Gee's attempts at rule bending the group came up with only one change, the payload weight must be clay.  Everyone seemed to be excited about the engineering challenge involved and there was a lively discussion about which approach to take for the contest. 

RUBBER PAYLOAD RULES (Provisional)

1. Model may be any size with any structural materials.

2. Model may use any wood, plastic or paper prop.

3. Model must be powered with a single loop of 1/8", flat, tan sport rubber of any length.

4. The payload weight must be made of clay.

5. The payload weight must be removable for weighing.

6. Flying will be indoors.

7. Flights must be R.O.G.

8. The model must demonstrate a flight of at least 20 seconds without the payload.

9. The model must make a flight of at least 20 seconds with the payload to have an official flight.

10. The winner is the model that makes a flight of at least 20 seconds with the heaviest payload.

Bill Watson, who had been working with Jim on the proposed rules, came to the meeting with a model built to the rules as they stood before the change.  It was an all balsa, ROG type, with a high aspect ratio, extreme camber, wing of about 24 inch span.  It flew fairly well but looks as though it will need a larger prop to carry a significant load and longer landing gear to clear the larger prop.  Many approaches to the problem were discussed from designing a new model to using a P-18 with landing gear and a payload holder. It will be interesting to see the different models that are built.

Think about it, what would your approach be?

KF

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 4:46pm
Got an email from Jim.  The rule about the flight without the weight will be eliminated.  It really doesn't prove anything and would be a waste of time at the contest.

KF

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 12:12am
Sounds like fun, I look forward to seeing your post of the meet and the results.  Thanks for posting!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 28th, 2019 at 3:51pm
Wednesday, March 27, 2019, the scheduled March O.F.F.C. contest, Build On Site Delta Darts was held.  Everyone coming to the meeting was given their choice of Delta Dart materials, skins printed with various national insignia, sticks, motor sticks, glue sticks, pins, prop assemblies, CA and kicker, and rubber all supplied courtesy of the CD, Dave Gee.  The meeting was spent building the models (with very few expletives) and at the end of the meeting we went out into the gym to fly.  The contest was the best two of unlimited attempts and an end of contest mass launch.

To everyone’s surprise, since the motor sticks were, apparently, too short, they all seemed to fly well!   Most of the flights were in the 30 second range. There were some flights that were dramatic with the plane bouncing off the walls and various other obstructions but, even those had decent times.  Dave Gee had a 39 and a 41 second flight for the win.  Bill Watson had a 40 second flight, Stan Christopher had a 41 second flight and Don Butman and I had 43 second flights.  I thought I had it in the bag when I got the 43 second flight and was winding for another one when I broke the motor, and proceeded to break two more motors in a row.   Someone made the remark that I had fallen prey to competition lust.  By that time I had to put another motor in for the end of contest mass launch.

The end of contest mass launch was a riot with two models being flown right and the rest left, but amazingly no collisions!  There was a video of this but it hasn't been posted yet.  Bill Watson's Delta Dart was the last one up so he won the mass launch.

The results were:
            (Total of best two flights)
1.   Dave Gee                80 seconds
2.   Don Butman            79
3.   Bill Watson              77 (Winner of end of contest Mass Launch)
4 .  Howard Littman       77 (tie broken by time of next best flight)
5.   Stan Christopher      50
6.   Barry Daugherty      32
7.   Pete Basone            31
8.   Don Martin              22
9.   Don Smith               15

There were a couple of others that were broken test flying.  The results might have been quite different if some of the members test flying had called for a time.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 28th, 2019 at 4:03pm
Here are more pictures from the Delta Dart contest.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:09pm
The O.F.F.C. Cat Glider contest happened, as scheduled, on Wednesday, April 24.  Although several members brought gliders some were deemed not working that day and were not flown.  The contest started with 5 contestants.  One of them, Charlotte, is an eleven year old girl who was brought to the meeting by her grandfather.  (Yes, our contests are open to anyone.)

The rules were any glider, any size or materials, with rubber limited to a six inch loop and if a catapult stick is used it is limited to six inches in length.  The contestants had three sets of three flights (nine flights total) with the best single flight counted.  Cat gliders, being somewhat cantankerous if not launched just right provided an interesting, if not entertaining, variety of flights with one flight soaring gracefully near the ceiling and gliding majestically and the very next flight being shortened by slamming into the ceiling or the wall.  Charlotte did quite well.  She was coached by her grandfather but did all the flying herself.

The results were:
1.   Bill Watson         29.8 seconds
2.   Jim Leuken         22.9
3   Charlotte Acosta      17.9
4.   Don Smith         16.2
5.   Bud Matthews      13.7

CD           Howard Littman
Timers      Howard Littman, Will Woods


The next contest is Legal Eagle on May 29th.  Bud Matthews is the CD.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:27pm
The Legal Eagle contest happened on Wednesday, May 29.  There was a very good turnout for the meeting but only six members brought models for the contest.  Bill Watson, once again, proved what can be done with a light, carefully trimmed model by winning , but it wasn’t a runaway with Paul Avery coming in a close second.  Joe Whiting had an interesting design that had some structural issues but after repairs it turned in a good performance for third place.  Don Butman finished  fourth with a usual competent performance but had trouble breaking a minute.  Howard Littman brought a development of his last Legal Eagle design but he finished and trimmed it at the contest and was only able to get three flights of around 40 seconds in before the end.  Don Smith finished sixth.

Results:  (Total of best 3 flights out of 6)

1.      Bill Watson                  335.9  seconds
2.      Paul Avery                  320.2  (5 total flights)
3.      Joe Whiting                  203.2  (4 total flights)
4.      Don Butman                  175.5 
5.      Howard Littman            117.7  (3 total flights)
6.      Don Smith                    65.2  (4 total flights)

The next contest is A-6 on June 26.

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by bigrip74 on Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:06pm
To have an indoor venue. WOW! Great times posted, thanks for sharing KF.

Bob

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:18pm
I was out of the country for the A-6 contest on June 26 so I can't give you a description of how it went but I was given the results and a few photos.

The results:

1. Bill Watson            272   seconds
2. Jim Leuken            182.5
3. Pete Basone          179.8
4. Don Butman           148.3
5. Bud Matthews        N/A

The photos are the finishers, Bill Watson, Jim Leuken, Kurt and Barry who were timing, and Will Woods.  I don't know how Will didn't end up finishing.

The next contest was the outdoor Predicted Time/ Spot Landing contest on July 17.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 18th, 2019 at 1:57pm
Thanks for the report and the pictures.  Congrats to the winners and keep em flying!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jul 18th, 2019 at 7:27pm
I was at the Predicted Time/Spot Landing contest yesterday.  This is the OFFC's one outdoor contest that is always held in the middle of summer on the Stonehurst Recreation Center field.   It was a bit windy but flyable. The contest is open to any rubber powered model that can ROG (Yes, in the past helicopters have been entered!)  You have four flight attempts, each. to accomplish two tasks.   The flight for, either task. must be at least 15 seconds to count. The two tasks may be accomplished by a single flight.

The first task is predict the duration of your model's flight before launching your model from a card table.  The second task is to get the model to land as close to an American Flag on a pole in the middle of the field.  The pole has a 50 foot measuring tape attached to it for measuring the distance from the pole to the closest part of the model.

An interesting variety of models was flown, the usual Minnows, a few designed for the contest models and for those without anything to fly, Dave Gee brought a box of Guillow's Jetstreams. I brought one of my Double Trouble prototypes but discovered that I had left the front end back on the bench and ended up flying a Jetstream. 

Every once and a while you get a Jetstream that won't climb. This is a bit of a problem in a contest that requires ROG (ROT?) takeoffs.  I ended up extending the wing slot all the way to the prop hanger to get it to climb.  The next flight it flew straight to the trees and treed itself 20 feet up on the back side of a tree.  I got Bill Watson's modified kite pole, which acted like it was a prop from a Buster Keaton movie, and retrieved the model.  My last flight, predicted for 20 seconds, flew 31 seconds and bounced off a tree on the other side of the park...FOGETTABOUTIT!  There is always next year!

Dave Gee, the CD for the contest was feeling a bit poorly and had to leave in the middle of the contest.  Kurt Young took over as timer and CD

The results were:

Flier                                         Model              Seconds off predicted     Distance from pole

1. Barry Dougherty                      Zipper                 .2                            10' 11"
2. Bill Watson                             Own Design          .2                            16'
3. Jim Leuken                             Own Design         1.2                            50'+
4. Don Butman                            Peck ROG            4.0                           12' 10"
5. Kurt Young                             Jetstream            4.0                           50'+
6. Howard Littman                       Jetstream          11.6                           50'+
7. Stan Christopher                      Minnow              N/A                           50'+
8. Marylin Commer                       Jetstream            N/A                          N/A

The next contest is Dime Scale (Joe Whiting's 9 Cent scale rules) on July 28.  If you have a Dime Scale model and can make it that Wednesday morning, come on out!         


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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Jul 18th, 2019 at 10:44pm
Looks like everyone had fun and that the weather cooperated this year.  Hope your CD is feeling better and back flying soon.  Thanks again for the pics and contest results!
Sky9pilot

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jul 30th, 2019 at 10:41am
REMINDER

Wednesday, July 31, (That's tomorrow, folks.) is the 9 Cent Scale (Joe Whiting's relaxed Dimer rules) contest at Stonehurst.  If you have a dimer that flies come on out!

Also, for those who enjoy a challenge, the OFFC Payload contest will be at Stonehurst on August 14.  See attached poster.

OFFC  contests are open to all interested modelers.

Stonehurst Rec center is at 9901 Dronfield Ave, Sun Valley, CA 91352.  It's one of those hidden parks so you will have to Google Map it to see how to get there.

The OFFC meetings start at 9:00 AM and the flying sessions are 10:00 to 12:00.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jul 30th, 2019 at 11:32am
CORRECTION!


I was sent the wrong photo of the A-6 contest score sheet.  Here are the correct results.


  • 1.Bill Watson                                457.5     Seconds
  • 2.Will Woods                                408.1
  • 3.Norm Furutani                           391.3
  • 4.Paul Avery                                 340.6
  • 5.Jim Leuken                                276.0
  • 6.Don Butman                              224.5
  • 7.Pete Basone                              175.8


Again, I wasn't at the contest.  Sorry about the error.

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:44pm
On Wednesday, July 31, the Dime Scale Contest (9 cent scale) was held in the Stonehurst gym.  We had a great meeting before the contest which ended with a few surprised, "The contest is today?" remarks.  As it turned out only three people brought dimers.  But, following the FAC three contestants makes a contest rule it went ahead anyway.

Bill Watson brought a freshly made Heath Parasol.  Joe Whiting brought a SIPA S.11 (French Arado 96) and a Fokker DXVII.  Don Butman brought his SB2C-3 and a Howard DGA-15.  Once Bill got the Heath trimmed it was evident that he would win the contest.  Joe's Fokker had been finished the night before the contest and was in need of more trimming that could be done that morning so he flew the reliable SIPA S.11.  Don's SB2C-3 was beautifully stable in flight but he couldn't get over 30 seconds out of it so he switched to the DGA-15.  (Although he held the more colorful Curtiss for the photos.)

The contest was for the best single flight of unlimited (well, completed before the 11:30 cutoff time) attempts.

The results:


  • 1. Bill Watson         80.3  seconds
  • 2, Joe Whiting        52.41
  • 3. Don Butman       36.1


CD Joe Whiting, Timer Howard Littman

The next contest is the Rubber Payload Contest on August 14.               
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Aug 15th, 2019 at 9:04pm
RUBBER PAYLOAD CONTEST - AUGUST 14TH


If not the best attended OFFC contest it was certainly one of the most fun.  Everyone agreed that we will have to do this one again.  There were only two entries, Bill Watson and Jim Leuken.  Now, that may not sound like much of a contest but everyone there was fascinated and many more will participate the next time. Bill and Jim took two different approaches to the problem.

Bill took the high camber airfoil approach.  His model was sturdy but only weighed 10 grams and had a low wing design reminiscent of a 1930s ROG model.  He installed a small keel, under the wing, to attach the clay payload, keeping the CG centered.  His motor was 1/8” flat, tan rubber, as required by the rules, and the final motor weighed 2.4 grams. The last flight lifted 25.6 grams of clay.

Jim’s approach was a high winged, contemporary ROG type model with a pylon, tip dihedral and an airfoil with a very small camber.  He wrapped the clay load around the pylon to maintain the CG position.  His last flight, with essentially the same motor as Bill’s model lifted 25.3 grams of clay and might have lifted more except he ran out of time.

This contest was more closely fought than would appear with only two contestants.  The biggest problem was getting the heavily laden models to turn inside the gym.  There were many flights that did not lift off and became high speed taxi runs.  Several flights did not make the 20 second minimum (leading to an observation that ’20 seconds can be a long time’).   And, of course many flights ended against the wall.  Hitting the ceiling was not an issue here.

This contest was a successful experiment and it was agreed that the next time there will be many more contestants.

The next contest is Comet Phantom Flash, plan stock except for thrust button, prop shaft and prop, on August 28th.

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Aug 15th, 2019 at 11:12pm
Outstanding report and I wish I could have been there.  I'm sure there was a lot of strategy discussed by all on "how to" for next time.  Thanks for keeping us informed!!!

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Post by Kittyfritters on Sep 27th, 2019 at 4:07pm
The contest for August was Phantom Flash.  Embarrassingly enough, I didn’t get to the contest until the very end.  And, not knowing how long my prior commitment would take, I didn’t bring my model.  Neither did a lot of other people and the contest was between our usual three stalwarts, Bill Watson, Jim Lieuken and Don Butman.   They finished in that order.
I took a picture of the score sheet and a picture of the group at the end.  However, when I got home I could not find those pictures on my phone, so I don’t have the detail times or the group picture.  Mia Culpa!

The next O.F.F.C contest is the One Design the design in question being the Mini Sonic.  A dozen members bought kits and we will see how many are flown in the contest.  Incentive to finish and fly is added because the contest is a do-back.  It was to be held on Wednesday, September 26 but was postponed to Wednesday, October 2 due to floor work in the gym.

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Post by Kittyfritters on Oct 11th, 2019 at 12:18pm
The One Design contest, for Mini-Sonics, went off, as scheduled, on September 25.  There was a good turnout with nine entrants out of the twelve kits sold.  (I could not find my model!  It's in my shop somewhere.)  The nine entrants got their dough back.

The contestants, flying what is essentially an outdoor model indoors, still achieved remarkably good times with seven of the nine models posting times over one minute.  The contest was decided on the best flight of unlimited trys so there were few moments when there were no models in the air.

The results were:

    1.   Pete Basone             83.7 seconds
    2.   Don Butman             80.7
    3.   Joe Whiting              79.5
    4.   Bill Watson               74.5
    5.   Don Smith                66.8
    6.   Jim Leuken               64.8
    7.   Bill Blanchard            62.9
    8.   Wade Wiley              44.0
    9.   Wynn Hammer          11.6


CD(s)    Bill Watson, Dave Gee
Timer     Howard Littman

The next contest will be on October 30, for No-Cal models.  Don Butman, wizard of No-Cals, is the CD and he has come up with an interesting set of rules including ROG from, rolling wheels, required.  Since the annual Pearl Harbor No-Cal contest will be the next week there are many Pearl Harbor eligible models being tested with landing gear.
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Oct 15th, 2019 at 11:28am
The NoCal contest gets more interesting.  Rules specify a 16 inch span (Legal) NoCal model but with a 12 gram minimum weight.  Fixed landing gear with rolling wheels required, no drop off gear, and all flights must start ROG.

KF

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Oct 15th, 2019 at 2:20pm
Sounds like fun, I eagerly await the report on the event! 

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Post by Kittyfritters on Nov 6th, 2019 at 4:48pm
The O.F.F.C. NoCal contest for 2019 happened on October 30.  Unfortunately, there were a few astonished, "The contest is today?" remarks at the meeting and there were only 4 entries. The four of us that did fly had a lot of fun.

Now. Pete Basone and I were trimming models we expect to fly in the Pearl Harbor NoCal contest in December so he had a Zero and I had a Brewster Buffalo.  Bill Watson, for some reason, probably because it was appropriate to the Black Sheep Squadron, and the model would be displayed at the AMA EXPO the following weekend built a Corsair.  Don Butman, the CD for the event, brought a high winged Farman with a big barn door of a wing.  With the 12 gram minimum weight and all the fighters flying gear down you could easily predict the winner.

The contest was for the total of the best two flights out of five attempts.

The results were:

  • 1.   Don Butman           Farman             13 grams         159 seconds
  • 2.   Bill Watson             Corsair              12 grams         134.7
  • 3.   Howard Littman       Buffalo              12 grams          77.8 
  • 4.   Pete Basone           Zero                 14 grams           52.4 



Winn Hammer brought his Zipper, not really legitimate since it is a model of a model, but he couldn't get it flying well enough to compete.

The November 27 contest will be a one design, P-18 Hawk, with a stock North Pacific front end.  (Yes, we have a supply of them.)
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Nov 29th, 2019 at 10:17pm
The November 27th P-18 contest was rescheduled to December 4th.  This was due to the weather being so bad that it would have been dangerous for many members to drive to the meeting!

December becomes a very busy contest month with the P-18 contest on the 4th, the Black Sheep Squadron's Pearl Harbor NoCal contest on the 13th and the ROG Unlimited contest on the 18th.  This last because there will be no meeting on the 25th.

Keep 'Em Flying!

KF

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Sky9pilot on Nov 30th, 2019 at 11:05am
WoW...lots of activities...great stuff, I look forward to the reports.  Thanks KF!!

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Dec 10th, 2019 at 10:55am
I didn't witness the P-18 contest because I had to leave right after the meeting but do have the results. 

So, without the usual drama, the results were.


    1.  Pete Basone               209 seconds
    2.  Don Butman               195
    3.  Will Woods                 194
    4.  Bill Watson                 187
    5.  Don Smith                  175


Don Butman's other P-18 flew 185 seconds.

The next contest is the Ed Slobad Memorial ROG Unlimited, open to any rubber powered model that can ROG, next Wednesday.  Here you can find anything such as Penny Planes with landing gear.  Fun!
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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Dec 23rd, 2019 at 6:22pm
ED SLOBAD MEMORIAL ROG UNLIMITED CONTEST

Since it is open to any rubber powered model that can ROG this is always one of the more interesting contests of the year.  You never know what kind of model that people will bring.  There were designed for the job models, P-18s with landing gear, Legal Eagles, and even an Embryo. 

Bill Watson and Jim Leuken brought designed for the job models.  Bill flew away with it, to no one’s surprise.  Jim got some tough competition from the Legal Eagle and P-18 fliers.  There wasn’t a dull moment with models in the air right to the end.  This was a fitting end to the OFFC ‘s 2019 year. 

At the meeting, the contest schedule for 2020 was finalized.  We’re short CDs for three contests but we can Shanghai members as needed.  OFFC members will get the contest schedule with the 2020 directory.  The contest for January is Minnow on January 29th.

The contest results were:  (Best single flight)

1.      Bill Watson            Own Design            186.0  seconds
2.      Paul Avery            Legal Eagle            111.0
3.      Don Butman            P-18                     97.0 
4.      Jim Leuken            Own Design               88.0
5.      Howard Littman      Legal Eagle               83.0
6.      Joe Whiting            Legal Eagle               76.0      

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Jan 22nd, 2020 at 1:40pm
At today's O.F.F.C. meeting the 2020 Directory and Contest Calendars were distributed.  The Contest Calendar is as follows:

















Date           Event                               CD Name                   
Jan 29        Minnow                            Bill Watson                
Feb 26        Delta Dart (Built on Site)    Dave Gee                  
Mar 25        Embryo                            Will Woods                
Apr 29          No-Cal                            TBS*                         
May 27        Dime Scale                      Joe Whiting
June 10 Outdoor Spot-Time Dave and Ralph
Jun 24 A-6 Howard Littman
Jul 29 Peanut Scale Dave Gee
Aug 26 RTP Rubber Speed Jim Leuken
Sep 30 Legal Eagle TBS*
Oct 28 One Design Bill and Dave
Nov 25 P-18 Paul Avery
Dec 30 R.O.G. Unlimited Ed Slobad (FBTG)


CD will issue rules for each meet, possibly with customized requirements.  No griping!
Dissenters invited to volunteer as a CD next year.

Other unlisted events are possible. Anyone requesting another event will be CD for that event

TBS* indicates that the CD for this event will be shanghaied from the membership.

There was quite a bit of discussion about the RTP speed event.  It looks like there will two classes, Unlimited and Racing Plane Profile Scale.  The profile scale event will be No-Cal models but with all sheet construction allowed.  Another possible rule for the profile scale class is to have all models use the 5 inch, Guillow's, red prop.  This would keep the speeds in the 25 mph range.

We shall see...

The Minnow contest is next week.

Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:44pm
On January 29 the OFFC Minnow contest was held at Stonehurst.   Five contestants participated.  Some of the models were new builds and some had been flying for over a decade. 

The results were:


    1.      Bill Watson                                    206 seconds
    2.      Don Butman                                  120
    3.      Will Woods                                    106
    4.      Howard Littman                               77
    5.      Don Martin                                      45


Bill Watson was CD.

I would have put the group picture on this post but we can’t seem to get it off Barry Daugherty’s phone..

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Feb 29th, 2020 at 9:47pm
On the morning of February 26th the OFFC once again held one of the most popular and fun contest events on its schedule, the Delta Dart Build on Site contest.  Our esteemed Black Sheep Squadron President, Dave Gee, provided the materials and building boards for the mad scramble to build the models in the hour before the contest.

Of course, when Dave prints up the plans/skins for Delta Darts he can’t resist having a bit of fun with the markings!  The contest was for the total of the best two attempts so there was a constant trimming effort during the contest and the times got better as the contest went on.  The end of the contest was the traditional Delta Dart mass launch. 

The results were:

    1. Bill Watson......................82.0 Seconds
    2. Don Butman....................77.3
    3. Dave Gee........................73.6
    4. Barry Daugherty...............66.6
    5. Howard Littman................58.9
    6. Will Woods......................53.9
    7. Don Smith.......................33.7
    8. Kurt Young........................9.8

The mass launch winner was Dave Gee.

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Title: Re: Indoor Flying With The O.F.F.C.
Post by Kittyfritters on Mar 17th, 2020 at 2:28pm
OFFC meetings and contests are postponed until further notice due to the virus situation.  The park gyms and all other available venues are closed.  The building season has been extended.

KF

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