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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #62 - Jun 6th, 2012 at 11:17pm
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Thank you, Tom, for your comment and the link to your catapult gliders.  We checked on the link and looked at your gliders.  They are very colorful and nicely built.

We tinkered a bit with tiny gliders in the backyard.  But their flights tended to the quick and short and if they flew for a longer time they tended to escape the confines of our back yard, so after at time we converted most of them to tether flying.

Some of our results with these as cat gliders may be seen at:

http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1133235468/20

and pages 6 and 7 at:

http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1193608427/120

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #61 - May 28th, 2012 at 8:27am
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Love the Avia...

Thanks for the link to guillows...a lot of the models look like they could be converted to catapult launched gliders as well....have built a few of them and they are great fun as well. 
Here's a link to them on HPA: http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php/topic,3985.0.html ; under the name Sky9pilot.

 Thanks again for sharing these great models with us. Smiley

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #60 - May 28th, 2012 at 12:06am
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Another model in the group picture is this profile Avia C-10.  It is based on yet another line of Guillows nocals.  these had sheet fuselage and tail with a tissue covered wing.

More info about these models can be found at the end of page 3 and the start of page 4 of the thread at:
http://balsamodels.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1646
These models are about 12 inches wingspan and have proven to be fine flyers.
  

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #59 - May 27th, 2012 at 11:55pm
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Tom, your comment is appreciated and I'm glad that you  like the models.

Another model in the picture in msg #51 is a small profile model of the Turbo Commander.  Below are a couple pictures of the model.  It is of all sheet construction of about 8 inches wingspan.  The profile swing control models were based on a couple of series of nocal gliders and rubber powered models that Guillows produced in the 1950s.  More information about them is on page 1 of a thread at:
http://balsamodels.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1646
  

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #58 - May 27th, 2012 at 7:48pm
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Outstanding Simpleflyer....thanks for sharing the fleet and the pics in flight....indoors and out. Smiley

Fiddler'sgreen has a full spectrum of planes from the beginning of flight to the present....wierd to the sublime Grin Wink

Thanks again for sharing....

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #57 - May 23rd, 2012 at 8:41am
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I have been meaning to try Fiddlers Green models.

btw, cool that you have all those jets to look at. What a great place to have lunch or gather with the family.

Soon as I get a ceiling fan hooked up, I may try it myself.  Looks cool in the pic!!! Cool Cool
  

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Reply #56 - May 23rd, 2012 at 1:46am
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In the group photo posted in msg #51 in the upper right there are some card models that we flew as 'swingers'.  The best flyer was the J-3, the tailless models not so good.  They are all Fiddlers Green card models.

Today we took the three models pictured below for some backyard flights.  The J-3 and the sailplane are Fiddlers Green models.  The B-17 is a Rigby model.  I have a faint recollection of trying to construct one of these as a youngster.

The sailplane is a poor flyer.  The wings are too long and skinny and warped.  How ever it looks good in the flight pic.

The B-17 and the J-3 fly well for being card models.  Looking forward to building them again.  These are cheap and easy flyers.  Many of the digital files for printing these out are free on the internet. 

To build them, all one needs is card stock, Elmers white glue and a pair of sharp scissors.  No additional covering or decorating is needed.  A little nose weight for balancing and a piece of string and a pole and your're ready to fly.
  

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #55 - May 23rd, 2012 at 12:49am
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So we wiped off the fans blades and added a model to each one with a bit of clear tape and thread.  Flipped on the switch and gave them a whirl.  They are kind of hard to see them as they swing about.  The Kodaks flash stops them in the digital pic but they are kinda tiny
  

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Reply #54 - May 23rd, 2012 at 12:38am
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I remembered that a few years ago we built a number of Fiddlers Green card model airplanes in 1/100 scale.  These ought to be strong, light and small enough to be connected to the fans blades and flown.  So we selected the models in the picture to give it a try.

First we took the F-22 Raptor and attached it to a blade with some tape and a piece of thread and gave it a try.  It went well enough.
  

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #53 - May 23rd, 2012 at 12:26am
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Makes me wonder if a man could hang a couple from a ceiling fan.  ?


Your question started me to thinking.  I looked up at our ceiling fan and wondered, can one fly some 'swingers' with it.  Even at low speed the blades were rotating at a good clip.  At the same time I remembered the 'Pole Line Flyers' by Ken Bale.  The models would have to be small and tough if they were going to be swung by the fan blades.
  

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Reply #52 - May 22nd, 2012 at 7:51am
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Flying in the living room!!!  Now that's comfort.
Makes me wonder if a man could hang a couple from a ceiling fan.  ?
  

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Reply #51 - May 22nd, 2012 at 1:42am
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Ok, here is the 'tiny swingers' fleet when it started around 2009.  These were a study of tiny simple airplanes that could be flown, simply, easily, and cheaply.

The two models in the upper left corner are simple gliders folded from paper and flown on a piece of thread. 

The illustration shows how easily this can be accomplished.

The last 2 pix show the gliders flying in the living room Smiley
  

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Reply #50 - May 22nd, 2012 at 1:16am
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Seems that it has become quiet on the tether flying page.  So, I guess it is time to liven it up a bit.  Since March, we've built a  couple of small 'swingers' of about 12 inches wingspan.  We will post a bit about our work with these little aircraft. 

First we will post a few more pix of the Javelin.  Eric, you may find some of this interesting. 

The first is the Javelin flying in the company of a F-105F Wild-Weasel.  This aircraft is on display at the 23rd Fighter Group Memorial at England Airpark in Alexandria, LA.  England Airpark used to be England Air Force Base which was shut down in Sep 1992.  Now it serves as the commercial airport for Alexandria.

Tne next 2 are of the 23rds group emblem.

The last is a pic of all the aircraft on display:  F-86 Sabre,  A7D Corsair II, A-10 Wart Hog, F-105F, and F-84F Thunderstreak.  All of the aircraft were flown by the 23rd except the F-84F and all were flown at EAFB over the years. 

We have a special attachment for the F-105, in that in 1962 we spent 40 weeks at an AF school learning the weapons control system on this bird, only to be assigned to an Air Base in Japan to work on the F-100 for the rest of our short stay in the AF.  The ways of the military sometimes work in mysterious ways Huh  There is also an attachment for the F-100, gut that story is for later.
  

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Re: Tether Flying for S&T models
Reply #49 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 12:49am
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A while back we built a Guillows Javelin and converted it for tether flying.  We made it with removable wing and tail surfaces.  Initially they were held on with rubber bands.  Later the wing was changed and held on with magnets and the tail was a slide-on mount.  The Javelin is a fine tether flying model which we fly regularly.
  

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Reply #48 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 12:12am
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Ken Horne in his Old Time Model Magazine at:

http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/~idesign/archive.html

Has  downloadable PDF of the Wright 1903 Flyer in Jan-Feb 2003 Vol 4 #3 of the OTMM.  The Curtiss Pusher PDF is in Dec 2003 Vol 5 #1 issue of the OTMM.

Below are a couple of reasonably simple plans for a rubber powered Wright 1903 Flyer.  All of these are beyond my skill level to build as a flying model. Smiley
  

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