Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 Send TopicPrint
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) Hand Drill to Winder conversion (Read 7988 times)
thymekiller
Administrator
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 3234
Location: Missouri
Joined: Jun 14th, 2008
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #11 - Sep 11th, 2013 at 8:00pm
Print Post  
My bad. Missed it where you had already done the bench test.

Nice work Pete. Really nice work. Gonna have to try something like that myself.
Really nice work! Thanks for sharing it with us. Smiley
  

",,,The road goes on forever, and the party never ends..."
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Sky9pilot
Administrator
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 11637
Location: Kelso, WA 98626 USA
Joined: Jan 9th, 2010
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #10 - Jul 27th, 2013 at 11:28am
Print Post  
I figured you'd already thought about this.  Sounds great.

Really nice job Pete!

Tom
  

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
Back to top
IP Logged
 
staubkorb
5 Star Member
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 1328
Location: Germany
Joined: Oct 22nd, 2008
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #9 - Jul 27th, 2013 at 5:54am
Print Post  
The bench test went  fine with the 1 Kilo load (35 oz/in), and the "box" hadn't been wrapped (it is now, with fiberglass - more "peace of mind").

The pin can, at present, be forced out over the rear shoulder on the drill frame (NOT easily), but once a proper grip is installed it will be captive.  Unscrewing the grip will allow the pin to be swapped out - if needed.
  

WWWoFF
Wonderful Wacky World of Free Flight
(with a bit of rc thrown in for giggles)

Comparing Spammers to a pile of organic waste is an insult to the organic waste!
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Sky9pilot
Administrator
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 11637
Location: Kelso, WA 98626 USA
Joined: Jan 9th, 2010
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #8 - Jul 26th, 2013 at 6:36pm
Print Post  
Pete,

Is there any thing to keep the locking pin from coming completely out of the locking base?  If that fell out at the field, I'd bet it would be next to impossible to find, especially over grass!
Otherwise looks great and makes me want one!!!!
Tom
  

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
Back to top
IP Logged
 
thymekiller
Administrator
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 3234
Location: Missouri
Joined: Jun 14th, 2008
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #7 - Jul 26th, 2013 at 4:32pm
Print Post  
All looks pretty stout to me. Wrapping the lock unit with something couldnt hurt. Of course a bench test would be in order.
Looks like a really nice setup. Nice machine work.

Thanks for shareing this with us.
  

",,,The road goes on forever, and the party never ends..."
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
staubkorb
5 Star Member
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 1328
Location: Germany
Joined: Oct 22nd, 2008
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #6 - Jul 26th, 2013 at 7:08am
Print Post  
I had a comment by a F1b great to the effect that the locking gizmo is probably not necessary and would likely not hold up to a fully wound motor.  Possibly correct in the first instance and more than likely in the configuration shown in the previous photos.  Wood is not the best material for the lock, but this one is made with aircraft ply and maple - the ply being impregged with CA and the whole unit glued together (clamped) with aircraft grade Epoxy.  After the first practial tests, the "woody" will get a wrap of glass or Kevlar thread.  If I get access to some decent machining tools I'll make on out of Aluminium.

This morning, I stuck a 1 inch "arm" in the winding attachment an hung a 1 Kilogram jug on it (a bit over 35 oz.) with the lock engaged.  NO issues!

The lock also gives me peace of mind...
  

( 267 KB | 3 Downloads )
2013_0726Drill-to-Winder_conv0001.jpg
( 244 KB | 3 Downloads )
2013_0726Drill-to-Winder_conv0002.jpg

WWWoFF
Wonderful Wacky World of Free Flight
(with a bit of rc thrown in for giggles)

Comparing Spammers to a pile of organic waste is an insult to the organic waste!
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Sky9pilot
Administrator
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 11637
Location: Kelso, WA 98626 USA
Joined: Jan 9th, 2010
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2013 at 12:13pm
Print Post  
Great bit of engineering Pete...

I look forward to your reporting on it's successful use!

Tom
  

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
Back to top
IP Logged
 
staubkorb
5 Star Member
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 1328
Location: Germany
Joined: Oct 22nd, 2008
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2013 at 12:03pm
Print Post  
I worked up a simple lock mechanism for the winder.  Don't want the thing to start spinning in the event it has to be disengaged from the motor Roll Eyes.  This is something that I've not noticed on any winder, tho the big bucks units may have something.  In my opinion it is also a safety issue (the indoor crowd uses a "winding brake", tho all seem to be aftermarket additions).

Here's how I've addressed the issue (note: NOT yet "finished" - top retaining plate to be added):
  

( 217 KB | 4 Downloads )
2013_0725Drill-to-Winder_conv0001.jpg
( 204 KB | 3 Downloads )
2013_0725Drill-to-Winder_conv0002.jpg

WWWoFF
Wonderful Wacky World of Free Flight
(with a bit of rc thrown in for giggles)

Comparing Spammers to a pile of organic waste is an insult to the organic waste!
Back to top
IP Logged
 
staubkorb
5 Star Member
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 1328
Location: Germany
Joined: Oct 22nd, 2008
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #3 - Jul 23rd, 2013 at 6:52am
Print Post  
thymekiller wrote on Jul 22nd, 2013 at 8:25pm:
Nice work! Are you going to put a hook on the end for the rubber?

Yup!  That is getting worked into the Ali piece being fitted into the busness end.  I have the unit ready for its first tests, hopefully today, but there are still a few tidbits that have to be added.  The spade grip, crank extension and one part I almost forgot till I reviewed Eduardo Yamin's conversion - namely a winding lock mechanism to keep a wound motor wound while fumbling with the hook release.  In some instances, a simple hook on the winder is/may be better.

Here's where it is now:
  

( 321 KB | 3 Downloads )
2013_0722Drill-to-Winder_conv0001.jpg
( 357 KB | 5 Downloads )
2013_0722Drill-to-Winder_conv0002.jpg
( 372 KB | 4 Downloads )
2013_0722Drill-to-Winder_conv0003.jpg

WWWoFF
Wonderful Wacky World of Free Flight
(with a bit of rc thrown in for giggles)

Comparing Spammers to a pile of organic waste is an insult to the organic waste!
Back to top
IP Logged
 
thymekiller
Administrator
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 3234
Location: Missouri
Joined: Jun 14th, 2008
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #2 - Jul 22nd, 2013 at 8:25pm
Print Post  
Nice work! Are you going to put a hook on the end for the rubber?
  

",,,The road goes on forever, and the party never ends..."
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Sky9pilot
Administrator
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 11637
Location: Kelso, WA 98626 USA
Joined: Jan 9th, 2010
Re: Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Reply #1 - Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:48pm
Print Post  
Great job Pete,

Thanks so much for sharing that with us!

Tom
  

If God is your Co-pilot...switch seats...
Your attitude will determine your altitude!- John Maxwell
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Jn 8:32
Back to top
IP Logged
 
staubkorb
5 Star Member
*****
Offline


Stick & Tissue

Posts: 1328
Location: Germany
Joined: Oct 22nd, 2008
Hand Drill to Winder conversion
Jul 20th, 2013 at 6:34pm
Print Post  
Not sure haow many of the members here follow along in the other FF Forums, so I'll post my hand drill conversion here also.

Since making the jump to the "larger" FF rubber planes, my little Peck winder would no longer be adequate Roll Eyes, so, I made use of one of the oldie hand drills I had been given.  I'll be making a captive winding fixture - the beginnings shown in this first couple of posts - a spade grip and an extended winding crank,  The photos are captioned and tell the major story of "howie dooddit".
  

( 196 KB | 4 Downloads )
2013_0720Drill-to-Winder_conv0001.jpg
( 201 KB | 5 Downloads )
2013_0720Drill-to-Winder_conv0002.jpg
( 187 KB | 4 Downloads )
2013_0720Drill-to-Winder_conv0003.jpg
( 206 KB | 7 Downloads )
2013_0720Drill-to-Winder_conv0004.jpg
( 166 KB | 5 Downloads )
2013_0720Drill-to-Winder_conv0005.jpg
( 128 KB | 4 Downloads )
2013_0720Drill-to-Winder_conv0006.jpg

WWWoFF
Wonderful Wacky World of Free Flight
(with a bit of rc thrown in for giggles)

Comparing Spammers to a pile of organic waste is an insult to the organic waste!
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send TopicPrint