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Re: Messerchmit Bf 109E
Reply #16 - Apr 2nd, 2017 at 11:31am
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Thank You, Lionel and John that information is happy news. I found that KRYLON has the colors needed for the Bf109's camouflage.

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Reply #15 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 3:42pm
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Lionel is correct.  Rustoleum solid colors are fuel proof.  Here in Oklahoma I only let it cure for seven days, but the humidity may be different here.  My rule of thumb is, if I can still smell it, it isn't fully cured.  The clear and metallic are NOT fuel proof (don't ask---very sad!), but Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane will spray over every kind of finish that I've tried, and will stick, even on clear dope.  I use 30% heli fuel with castor added in my 1/2a planes and the Minwax is doing fine.  Just to be safe, I wipe my planes down after each flight, but so far no problems.  All finishes are as heavy as you make them, you just have to decide how shiny your plane has to be.  On C/L planes a little extra weight can sometimes help.

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Re: Messerchmit Bf 109E
Reply #14 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 10:46am
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Rustoleum rattle can paint is fuel proof, but it must be left to cure for at least 14 days.

My sport jet speed model uses 20% nitro and 80% methanol and I have had raw fuel dripping onto the paint and it has done nothing to the finish.

The only thing is that being an enamel paint it is heavy, so go easy on the coats. I find that one, maybe two coats is all that is needed, even with white.

I also believe that the clear and metallics are not fuel proof, I have only used the standard colours and had no problem.

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Reply #13 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 10:11am
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Bob

Just sprayed the bottom of a metal can with Krylon. Placed it on top the coal stove for 2 hours. Then put it outside in 40 degree weather for 1 hour. The paint was very dry, could not press a thumb print in to it at all. Poured a little glow feul in one corner, and left sit for 1/2 hour. Wiped with a rag, and paint was sticky.

All my planes are electric, except 2. Sprayed a glow RCM basic trainer with ACE enamel. Test ran it, and the side of the airplane was sticky. Wiped off the best I could and left sit. Since then the paint has redried. Don't know what I am going to do to fix this one. Convert it to electric?

Painted the 1937 Texaco racer with acrylic house paint, then a clear coat of water based matte polyurethane. The finish is feul proof. But where the plastic wheel pants vibrated against the paint, and cut thru the paint, the feul is attacking in thru the edge of the paint. And lifting the paint.

A guy at the C/L club, said he just painted his airplane with the new mix of Krylon. He said the new mix is feul proof. What is the new mix, I don't know. And was the paint truley feul proof, I don't know.

I miss the old dopes and Ambroid glue.

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Reply #12 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 9:18am
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Pete,
how have you been doing,thanks for your input it has made me think more about a test:

I will take some KRYLON and apply some clear dope over to see if it will work or just melt the KRYLON.

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Reply #11 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 7:10am
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bigrip74 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:17pm:
Sky9pilot wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:15pm:
Bob,
This is really looking good!  From the angle of the picture I can't tell if the engine has any offset to starboard?  You gonna brush the finish or airbrush it?
Tom


1. by accident the mount has some 2 degrees of offset.
2. I may try the KRYLON spray if it is fuel-proof (the instructions state that KRYLON was used). My question is will that work?

I have seen nothing (yet) that states that Krylon (a BRAND name) is fuel proof.  I seriously doubt that it is - that is, the type we know of (Krystal Clear 1301) - but they may have a formula that will stand up to the high nitro required for small engines.

The instructions state that the designer USED Krylon, but doesn't state whether it worked...
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:17pm
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Sky9pilot wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:15pm:
Bob,
This is really looking good!  From the angle of the picture I can't tell if the engine has any offset to starboard?  You gonna brush the finish or airbrush it?
Tom


1. by accident the mount has some 2 degrees of offset.
2. I may try the KRYLON spray if it is fuel-proof (the instructions state that KRYLON was used). My question is will that work?
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:15pm
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Bob,
This is really looking good!  From the angle of the picture I can't tell if the engine has any offset to starboard?  You gonna brush the finish or airbrush it?
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Reply #8 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:14pm
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The Bf 109 bones.

1. engine is installed to hold the LG in-place.
2. need to install the bellcrank and pushrod along with the lead outs.
3. the instructions show KRYLON being used by the designer.

  

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Reply #7 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:11pm
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Sky9pilot wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Bob...time to go to Home Depot or Ace Hardware for some washers!!!  Some little kid will see that quarter and run off with your 109!!! Grin Cheesy Wink
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Re: Messerchmit Bf 109E
Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 1:09pm
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Bob...time to go to Home Depot or Ace Hardware for some washers!!!  Some little kid will see that quarter and run off with your 109!!! Grin Cheesy Wink
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Reply #5 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:09pm
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The Bf 109 it together and has one coat of dope applied.

PHOTOS:
1. all together.
2. lead out guide I came up with.
3. I did not have any large washers for the off set weight so a quarter was used.

  

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Reply #4 - Mar 24th, 2017 at 10:16am
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DAVE Q wrote on Mar 24th, 2017 at 1:47am:
Really like what you did with the grain directions on the rudder and elevator.

Dave, I cannot take the credit since the plans make the builder cut the pieces in those directions.

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Reply #3 - Mar 24th, 2017 at 1:47am
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Really like what you did with the grain directions on the rudder and elevator.
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 23rd, 2017 at 11:31pm
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Tom, the wing is flat bottom with the top razor planed to and airfoil.

I will just sit in my desk chair and let the airplane pull me around. Grin

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