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Reply #49 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 4:26pm
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Here is the Bristol Board and Balsa from my Joe Ott 22” Messerschmitt kit. The three-ply board for the tail outlines and landing gear mics .042”. The fuselage formers look to be single-ply and measure .015” thick. The balsa printwood wing ribs are dead on .050” thick.
  

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Reply #48 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 4:08pm
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See reply#26 for links to free Whitman/Ott plans
  

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Reply #47 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:58pm
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Always something to learn everyday!!! Thanks for the info... I think I'll use the 1/32" cross grain for the formers as well.  After seeing Rays's B-17 plan that's beginning to look real good.  Glad I've got to September to finalize a choice!
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Reply #46 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:56pm
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After a little research, Bristolboard is also known as paperboard, it is an uncoated and laminated machine finished paper, I would imagine if you laminated cardboard to 1/16" thick with a glue stick it would be similar to the original but I think it would be to heavy for our purposes.

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Reply #45 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:55pm
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Bristol board is an uncoated, machine-finished paper board. It is said to be named after the city where it was originally produced, in England.

Bristol board comes in two key finishes: vellum or smooth (or sometimes “plate”). Less common in the fine art world is an engraver’s finish, which is more suited for printing engraved stationery.

Within those two key finishes, you’ll find several thicknesses of bristol board. It can range from one ply (along the lines of the thickness of printer paper), or two or three ply. Two ply is more like a card stock, firm but foldable, and three ply is more like a rigid board. Sometimes, rather than being sold as two or three ply, the board will be sold by weight. A paper’s “weight” refers to the weight of 500 sheets of a paper in question. The 100-pound bristol board is a popular and versatile version.
  
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Reply #44 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:52pm
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My humble opinion (and the way I plan on building if I decide not to use a kit) is that there'd be no problem with substituting materials. The Ott-O-Formers, being made of Bristol board, were one piece and immune to cross-grain breakage. I have a couple kits, and a couple orphaned plans. My plan is to cross-laminate some suitable 1/32" sheet wood and cut the formers to match the Ott plan.
  
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Reply #43 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:45pm
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The form-o-matic formers were made out of die-cut Bristolboard? What is Bristolboard?

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Reply #42 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:41pm
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Good question, I know that the form-o-matic formers used in the Joe Ott kits were of a pressed fiber type cardboard being 1/16" thick from what I have heard and read about, do we have to use pressed board for this or can we use balsa, can we change the wing span or do we have to leave it at the original wing span?

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Reply #41 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:28pm
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Not having seen a real Joe Ott kit I'm not familiar with the former material.  So cracker box or cereal box cardboard is similar?  I know my card stock wouldn't be stiff enough for formers. 

I hadn't set any limits so I'm eager to hear the desires of all who will be participating???
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Reply #40 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 3:22pm
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Hey...this cookup involves using Joe Ott-specified materials for Joe Ott/Ace Whitman plans, right?  Wouldn't be Joe Ott without crackerbox cardboard now, would it.  Cheesy

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Reply #39 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 2:40pm
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Opps, you are right Tom, I will be building Joe Ott's B-17 not the B-29, I would like to get my hands on the B-29 plan as well.

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Reply #38 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 12:36pm
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Ray,
Thanks for the great Joe Ott plan but it's the B-17 Flying Fortress not the B-29 Super Fortress.  I'll post it for those who are interested because the formers are all complete and this is a very nice copy of the plan.  Thanks again!
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Reply #37 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 6:17am
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Thanks. I should be out of my hand cast by the time this starts. Nice thing is i been able to build laser cut kits at this time. Draw back is i can't  cover them  Tongue
  
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Reply #36 - Jun 21st, 2018 at 11:01pm
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Wait for just a while and Tom will likely put it into the plans section of the forum.
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Reply #35 - Jun 21st, 2018 at 7:25pm
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I'm a newbie here. Where  would I find the plans for this. I would like to join in. Smiley
  
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