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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #87 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 4:59pm
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Go with what pleases you.
Thats the point anyway.
Those Guillows cockpit sets are just an approximation† anyway.† There where several versions used in many places.
They had only one pilot bust, and it looks funny if the plane used a wheel rather than a stick.
But its close, kinda.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #86 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 4:49pm
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Really like the way the balsa version looks and going to use some balsa build up for the flaps and trim levers as well as the bottom of the instrument panel and rudder pedals. It won't be scale or look perfect but going for the squint your eyeball and pretend test Grin Should have gotten some interior green at my last trip to the store since I'm going to need that before adding the extra build up pieces. Read something about Testors discontinuing that color so I am hoping I can score some somewhere or find similar online. I think this re-build is actually going better than I had hoped going over familiar ground so to speak. Really thought about using the card stock like Sky 9 suggested but the balsa version just spoke to me.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #85 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 12:38pm
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I've used card stock or manila folder material to make those kind of things!  Old file folders etc.  Stiffer than paper so it holds it's shape pretty well and easily modified.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #84 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:39am
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Built 3 versions of a box for experimentation ended up really liking this last version out of balsa the best. Aluminum version really did not care for... too hard to achieve the look I wanted. The paper version was easiest but looked too flimsy and not 3 dimensional enough for my taste.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #83 - Nov 7th, 2022 at 8:06pm
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As far as covering go, monokote comes in chrome.
Its a plastic film that you iron on. Shrinks with a hair dryer.
A site with alot of serious detail stuff is Williams Bros.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #82 - Nov 6th, 2022 at 8:56pm
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Amount of detail is up to the modeller!! Skydiamonds is an ultra detail modeller!!! I don't build stick and tissue models for static display.  I plan of flying them even if it's just a chuck across the yard.  Detail is limited to outside of the airplane.   Like panel lines, antennas, flying wires, tail gear/skids, canopy lines etc.  So do as much as you want to commit to.  Change your mind mid stream if that's what you decide.  Remember this is a "FUN" hobby. Grin Cheesy Wink
If it's not "FUN" for me I stop and try something different or another plane type.  I think you'll find most modellers have partial finished/started models hanging around the building area.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #81 - Nov 6th, 2022 at 5:30pm
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Thinking of using your method with the vinyl chrome for the covering but still not sure of which way to go yet on the cockpit and retractable landing gear boxes. Had another idea to use the black plastic container my salad from Pilotís comes in for the instrument panel since I can have a ready supply of them out here and negates the need to paint afterwards so now I just need to address the rest of the cockpit area box. Kit supplied cockpit doesnít match the photo I am using for the instruments on the forward panel but actually a good approximation on the sides. How much detail or scale should I be going with???
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #80 - Nov 5th, 2022 at 3:13pm
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You might want to check out Skydiamonds' P-51D build here: Click Here
He has some great ideas for a metal finish.† You can go back to the begining of the build by clicking on the small white numbers at the top of the posts.
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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #79 - Nov 5th, 2022 at 3:05pm
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Have a progress report on my rebuild. Starting the cockpit area and had two ways of going forward with that. One is to use heavier gauge aluminum foil like a disposable baking pan and the other one is a balsa build up. The foil would look nicer but the balsa box would be easier so hit me with some good options guys!!
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #78 - Oct 20th, 2022 at 7:24am
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Sorry thymekiller should have clarified the part pictured is actually over or on top of the drawn part and a close up of the photo would show the difference in the lines the drawn photo above the part is of a different part. I should have gotten a better photo or done a better closeup. In any case the the original part matches up with the keel better than I thought it would leading to suspect that the drawn part on the plans are the culprit.

  Thank you for the offer will be on the road until the 28th then home time to winterize the camper. This version is going to be a bit different and some changes will be made to the cockpit area and landing gear areas to get a better outcome I am hoping. Nothing ventured nothing gained right?? Had some ideas gleaned from other posters and hope to incorporate them into this new version.
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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #77 - Oct 10th, 2022 at 6:30pm
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   Maybe I'm wrong, In my opinion, The part in the pic is NOT the part drawn in the same pic. Those are 2 different parts. Guillows drawings are generally pretty good.  Something else about those 1000 series models, there are parts in there that only apply if you build that option, for example the moveable wing surfaces have parts and procedures you wont need if your just building static.  Same with landing gear. I think there may even be a separate plan set for static rather than flyable.


    I'm home this week if you need some help. Home till friday. I just live in Springfield, by the Budweiser place. West bypass and Chestnut.  Maybe 15 minutes from you, give or take.  Not trying to get into your business or anything, but we do share alot in comman.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #76 - Oct 10th, 2022 at 9:34am
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As you can see parts fit does not match up to the drawn plans and not sure if this is due to bad artwork or die cutting. Also there are several areas notably on the lower keel where a longeron is simply not shown either on the part plan or the part itself but is shown on the building directions and on the B2 Part. Iíve already covered this in my earlier build attempts before the catastrophic destruction occurred. However I donít think I took photos so am including this go around. Not sure if it matters since I will be doing complete infill but thought I would mention it.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #75 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 9:38am
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† Well folks Iím back to rolling the road and have now gotten to the point of starting my rebuild. I donít know how much of it to post since I did put up photos of the original build. Going to be using the old wrinkled up plans so I can save the new ones for a future build of a flying version.

  I also want to add that I will be probably making some changes from my original version in some areas since much of the original was uncharted territory but I have since gained more insight and help from others here achieve the best look.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #74 - Aug 8th, 2022 at 9:30am
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    There has been alot of companies change hands lately in the business. I glad your not one of them that got dumped.  Several folks have just been shut down with no pay card or fuel card.
    I found that small companies are better than the mega giants. Good luck and stay safe.
  

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Re: P-38 Lightning 1st static build
Reply #73 - Aug 7th, 2022 at 9:10pm
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Outstanding and hope to see progress as soon as you can find the time in all that's on your agenda!
  

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