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Reply #32 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 11:05am
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Reply #31 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 9:31pm
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Here is a photo of the airframe.
You will notice the tailplane that Ben covered.
Quite a lot of sanding done by me eg on the wheel spats, and nose block.  The spliced stringers were problematic.  Best idea would have been to place the spliced stringers in the fuselage mid section.  I finished up with the all the splices either between the first two formers or rear two formers.  They tended to break here during sanding and handling  All good now.  Wink

Big news is I have received some Eze Dope and can start covering the wings etc next week.  I have never used Eze Dope before.   Wink
  

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Reply #30 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 11:19pm
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Firstly thanks everyone for your comments and helpful information. 

Since my last post Ben has covered the tailplane in a brown tissue.    Smiley

I have added cross pieces and shaped the cheek cowls.
Also sanded much of the airframe and wheel spats.

Decided to simplify the undercarriage wire bends and attachment design.  Noticed on Outerzone that two people think the plan is in error.  If built as per the plan the undercarriage will be too short for reasonable clearance for the propellor.

Did a test fit of the redesigned undercarriage wire.  To check this I bent some standard blue plastic coated copper wire.  The concept works.

I have a new phone and the send photos to my laptop process is different. Will post the latest photos when I have sorted this out.

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Reply #29 - Jun 12th, 2020 at 8:23pm
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Kerak wrote on Jun 11th, 2020 at 10:33pm:
Not to belabor the wheel thing...but the point is that there is no need to ever use those dreaded hardwood units that come with kits...or even plastic for that matter (do as I recommend...not as I've done  Grin).  Balsa wheels are easily constructed...



Sometimes I use the plastic wheels on models with fixed gear to reduce the need for nose weight.   Wink

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Reply #28 - Jun 12th, 2020 at 5:39am
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Sky9pilot wrote on Jun 11th, 2020 at 11:44am:
What did you use to cut the circles?  Did you sand the small disks to a saucer shape and add them back to the wheel?  A bit more details please.  Would be helpful for our newer modelers.Sky9pilot


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Reply #27 - Jun 11th, 2020 at 10:33pm
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Not to belabor the wheel thing...but the point is that there is no need to ever use those dreaded hardwood units that come with kits...or even plastic for that matter (do as I recommend...not as I've done  Grin).  Balsa wheels are easily constructed.

The smaller disc has been left off of these wheels on the backside...and can even be added to the outside for a deeper spoke cover effect.  The process is pretty evident...otherwise.  Brisfit was an 18"ws model (plan was 15"ws) with those two wheels weighing in at 1.32g pr. Wink

True up your creation on a length of tube...then fix in place with a bit of CA.  When all set up...cut the tube off.  Beware getting CA inside that bushing!  When I was a kid, I was forever scrounging old ballpoint pen refills...wanted the brass tubing. Roll Eyes

Your model is coming along very nicely, Toulouse! Smiley

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Reply #26 - Jun 11th, 2020 at 11:44am
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Great looking wheel Neal.  What did you use to cut the circles?  Did you sand the small disks to a saucer shape and add them back to the wheel?  A bit more details please.  Would be helpful for our newer modelers.
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Reply #25 - Jun 11th, 2020 at 7:16am
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You asked about the wheels of my Heath...here's a method that does NOT involve turning them in a Dremel or drill...any size or thickness...your choice...with an aluminum tube bushing to fit the axel you're using...lots of careful sanding...but is still quick.  Wheels shown were for a peanut Hawker Fury...but ultimately not used on that model (used wire wheels instead).  The more you make the better they get. Smiley

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Reply #24 - Jun 10th, 2020 at 5:18pm
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Love cheek cowls on planes. I think they are so cool.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 9th, 2020 at 1:15pm
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Bones look good!   Smiley
  

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Reply #22 - Jun 9th, 2020 at 2:29am
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Smiley The airframe components are almost complete.
Assembled them with masking tape for the photo.
Lots of sanding to do, nose block, engine cowling, wheel spats
Have purchased some tissue in a suitable colour for Minnow Cosmic Wind #4.
Will cover the tailplane soon, so I can assemble with the fuselage, fin and rudder.
This is a fun build for me.
All the best to all you guys from down under.
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Reply #21 - Jun 4th, 2020 at 10:33am
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Thanks Kerak.
I have spliced the first full length one with a short addition as suggested.  Not fitted it yet.  Noticed the rear fuselage not quite square so remeasured and re cut one upright and one lower cross brace.  Now glued in place and all OK.  Also added the stabilizer support mounts as designed on the upper longerons.

The plan does not provide an upper stern post for the 5 x longerons to attach to.  As I have not been into the shops to get some bronze tissue, I did not want to cover the tailplane and glue it in first with the fin and rudder.  I have settled on measuring and fitting temporary upper stern post so the longerons have a fixed rear target to glue to.  When all longerons glued and secure will cut a 1/16 slot to slide the tailplane into.

Have completed assembly of the wheel spats and started shaping  and sanding to streamline.  Just like shaping a surfboard but on a smaller scale.  Smiley  Also cleaned up the tailplane and wings and started sanding.

I confessed earlier the building instruction sequence and detail instruction text blew away in the wind when I was working on the barbecue table.  Did not fully understand the wing attachment technique, however I do now.  Needed to cut rectangles in the both K1 for the wing rear spars to glue into and also two slots for the trailing edges. 

Smiley I am continually pleased and impressed with the precision of the printed balsa sheets in this old style Veron kit.  Every part has fitted together well, including both wings to the fuselage , each with with 4 x slots in each K1 for the LE, 2 x spars and TE and at the correct dihedral angle.

Stringers are next and steaming the ones for the front under fuselage curved ones.

All the best, keep safe everyone.

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Reply #20 - Jun 4th, 2020 at 10:32am
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Thanks Kerak.
I have spliced the first full length one with a short addition as suggested.  Not fitted it yet.  Noticed the rear fuselage not quite square so remeasured and re cut one upright and one lower cross brace.  Now glued in place and all OK.  Also added the stabilizer support mounts as designed on the upper longerons.

The plan does not provide an upper stern post for the 5 x longerons to attach to.  As I have not been into the shops to get some bronze tissue, I did not want to cover the tailplane and glue it in first with the fin and rudder.  I have settled on measuring and fitting temporary upper stern post so the longerons have a fixed rear target to glue to.  When all longerons glued and secure will cut a 1/16 slot to slide the tailplane into.

Have completed assembly of the wheel spats and started shaping  and sanding to streamline.  Just like shaping a surfboard but on a smaller scale.  Smiley  Also cleaned up the tailplane and wings and started sanding.

I confessed earlier the building instruction sequence and detail instruction text blew away in the wind when I was working on the barbecue table.  Did not fully understand the wing attachment technique, however I do now.  Needed to cut rectangles in the both K1 for the wing rear spars to glue into and also two slots for the trailing edges. 

Smiley I am continually pleased and impressed with the precision of the printed balsa sheets in this old style Veron kit.  Every part has fitted together well, including both wings to the fuselage , each with with 4 x slots in each K1 for the LE, 2 x spars and TE and at the correct dihedral angle.

Stringers are next and steaming the ones for the front under fuselage curved ones.

All the best, keep safe everyone.

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Reply #19 - Jun 4th, 2020 at 9:35am
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Not to belabor the issue of splices...but did this just the other day to a 3/32"sq stringer (used for Heath wing leading edge).  Instead of cutting up a new 36"length of 3/32" sq strip, I "cheated" and spliced a couple of smaller lengths together...just enough scrap to do the job.  Not a good macro-photo...but you can see the different wood tones...that's the splice.  Works very nicely.

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Reply #18 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 9:57pm
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Thanks for that information SkyPilot.
The brand is John Sands.  Tom and I used Hallmark red tissue on Tom's Guillows Cessna 150.  It was excellent.  We bought it at Whitcoulls in Wellington CBD New Zealand.

I saw both the gold and bronze colours collage paper from John Sands in a smaller local Whitcoulls suburban store.
Whitcoulls online site has only gold.
But it is headlined as Tissue and again in the sub text.
Looks promising, I will check the CBD store next time I am in the city..
Whitcouls website link for John Sands collage paper.:
https://www.whitcoulls.co.nz/product/collage-tissue-paper-metallic-gold-6213953?...
Smiley  Many thanks also for your solution with the F86 and F84 cockpit and canopy area.
I will do it the way you describe.
Thanks and regards
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