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Re: Be'be' To The Rescue
Reply #28 - May 22nd, 2021 at 5:23pm
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Neale,
I enjoyed your build a lot.

Thanks for the time and effort you put into the builds and posts.

Lights up our days.   Smiley

The colour scheme is very attractive for me.

Enjoyed also your write up of the French Aces.
I also like Nieuports and have a plan in my stash.
All the best

Smiley

RE:   PS...I might add, next time you're in Paris and drop in at Fouquet's, don't forget to take your bankroll.

I will if I am in Paris again.

The place I go to in Paris which is the WW1 and WW2 hangout for RFC, RAF and RNZAF ANZAC etc is the Cafe de la Paix, 5 Place de l'Opera. 

Excellent. 

Take your wallet also. 

I can understand why guys who had survived action and were on leave would go there to enjoy and relax.
  
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Reply #27 - May 22nd, 2021 at 12:50pm
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To close the story...and build...Jean Navarre was a twin brother.  Obviously, he was the more aggressive of the two and served as his sibling's protector.  He adored his 'little' brother...whose loss during the war proved psychologically devastating.

Found these pics of Jean Navarre at the Bar de l'Escadrille - Fouquet's Paris...where the "plot" was hatched to fly through the Arc de Triomphe.  To the right of Navarre is Nungesser...amongst many other celebrities from the past.

For the pilot who ultimately did "the deed," there were no punitive consequences for the act.  He did however, promptly retire back to his family wine-distilling business.  Someone did it again in 1981...this time...the perp got jail time.

It's been a fun build...thank you all.

Neal

PS...I might add, next time you're in Paris and drop in at Fouquet's, don't forget to take your bankroll.  Wink Grin Smiley
  

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Reply #26 - May 21st, 2021 at 6:19pm
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c'est magnifique

or in 'merican..

that is right purdy

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Reply #25 - May 21st, 2021 at 12:51pm
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As Inspector Clouseau would say, "nous avons une conclusion," before I become even more "ham-handed" than I am.  Wink Smiley

There are those who speculated that Jean Navarre was a victim of the war, that his death in a flying accident was actually a suicide in 1919.  There is little doubt that his personality certainly changed.  Along with his good friend Charles Nungesser, he'd been a hell-raiser, a chance-taker, and a lady's man...living for the moment.  When it all caught up with him, his status a France's leading ace was established...in fact he was France's first double-ace.  His wounds were very serious...and then he lost his brother to the war...and suffered further mental and physical setbacks.  Finally, he regained active duty status...flying once more...when the war ended.  He was then employed by Morane-Saulnier as a lead test pilot...but the zest for life had ebbed away.  Accidents happen...but he was a very respected pilot.  So who knows the real ending to the story...except that it would have been very nice had he had the honor of flying through the Arc de Triomphe on the big day....

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Reply #24 - May 21st, 2021 at 9:46am
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Looks great.  Well done! Smiley
  

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Reply #23 - May 20th, 2021 at 7:42pm
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Kerak wrote on May 20th, 2021 at 4:16pm:
need those french roundels....


enh... use a british target  no one will notice...


one day I will learn to keep a straight face.
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Reply #22 - May 20th, 2021 at 6:08pm
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After a short search, it seems the German aces were mostly holding the rank of Leutnant. Most surprising.

Nice Bebe
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Reply #21 - May 20th, 2021 at 4:16pm
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need those french roundels....
  

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Reply #20 - May 20th, 2021 at 10:37am
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Rank seems to be controlled, not by merit alone, but by political connections. Those with the connections get the promotions. And with the army in control of rank, they may have been a bit jealous of the adulation of the public for the pilots, therefore the slowness of advancement.

  It would be nice if pilots were allowed to design their own colour schemes, but it would make country identification of opponents quite a bit harder on observers, thereby more 'friendly-fire' incidents.

Looks like the Bebe could take flight with only the upper wing. The lower wing was mostly part of the 'bracing' necessary.
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Reply #19 - May 20th, 2021 at 7:48am
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I like the red n' silver as well.  Seems that in the French Air Service...when one was "ROOSTER o' the walk," not only could one fly the aircraft type that one preferred, but it could be finished to suit personal taste as well.  Although Navarre began the war as a corporal-pilot (flying certificate obtained privately in 1911), the red finish was his personal challenge to the Germans.  Later he attained the rank of second lieutenant.  The French were very stingy with rank...even Fonck ended the war as a mere captain.

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Reply #18 - May 18th, 2021 at 8:22pm
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Red and silver are quite a good combo. Engine looks good in there.  Smiley
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Reply #17 - May 18th, 2021 at 7:22pm
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movin' along
  

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Reply #16 - May 17th, 2021 at 3:34pm
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Covering has begun....

Plastic model is something of a stretch...looks like a Lewis mounted like a Vickers...don't think so.
  

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Reply #15 - May 16th, 2021 at 8:26am
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As in all things aviation...design seems to be a matter of give-and-take...and in the case of an early rotary engine, it was weight-to-power ratio.  An in-line engine had all the answers except...that it was heavy...too heavy.  A rotary had the advantages of being air-cooled as well as having an "open lubrication system," no oil sumps/pumps, radiators or coolants to haul around.  As a disadvantage, a rotary was a precision piece of machinery with all that such creations entail....  Radials were the next step...and did begin to make an appearance toward the end of WWI...but weight-to-power ratio was the big factor that limited powerplant size throughout the war.  Give-n'-take...how to get the most for the least.

Cockpit interior pic shows carb air-intake/throttle linkage/fuel system connections and a magneto back there somewhere.  Also note Be'be' has a welded metal tubing fuselage...not standard.

Here's a Guillows Be'be' that I constructed once upon a time...went a bit crazy with the rotary....  Was looking for alternatives to dope at the time...finish is floor polish/GlowCoat.  Hated it...decided to suffer through with dope thereafter.

Neal
  

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Reply #14 - May 15th, 2021 at 11:27pm
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more about engines.

... I had a coworker talking about building a radio controlled
world war 1 pusher plane.  we got to talking about engines
and he called an engine a 'rotary.' 
I recall thinking it an odd way to refer to the engine,
as he did not misplace words and I asked if he meant a radial.
Then he described a gnome rotary.

Gotta comment here that I was pretty sure he was pulling my leg.
I went on to share my thinking aloud that that was a damn poor idea
to have that much weight swinging around.
I had not thought of the gyroscopic effects....
He agreed and then added the problems pilots had with the engine including
some maneuvers being difficult from that gyroscopic action.

so I went relooking at the books I have on the subject...
I had assumed the engine was a radial type.

Kerak, you make it look easy.
  

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