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Reply #13 - Sep 10th, 2021 at 1:23pm
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She's stunning! Wheels set her off very nicely!
  

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Reply #12 - Sep 10th, 2021 at 11:09am
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Thanks, Ian...Tom.  Very little paint on this model...color achieved via tissue.  Nose block consists of two layers of red tissue...applied wet.

Time to call this project finished.  Wheels are held in place by small pieces of rubber band...use a pin to punch a hole...then pushed onto axle...all temporary as wheels are genuine hardwood 1" dia. from Comet!  A bit heavy...but for looks...ok.  Prop is a genuine Guillows 5" square tip coffee stir-stick...shaped and sanded to deceive the purists out there...again...it works.

Interestingly, I don't think the Curtiss Hawk was ever a record-setter...the best in the world...but the design was so attractive that it was operational from 1927 to 1939.  It was tough to let go of...very pretty...and enjoyable to fly...a show-piece.  It still is.

Speaking of "American exceptionalism," I can't imagine hanging around with anyone who would think otherwise...wouldn't be on my team for long.  Reminds me of a day in boot-camp...Sgt gets into this dudes face, "Troop...exactly how much do you think you're worth?"  Shakily the trainee responds, "Probably not very much, Sgt."  Oh boy...a question with no correct response!  Sgt. responds,"I think this troop needs some motivation...."  What's wrong with people today?  I have my opinion...they need some motivation...not their mother's love.

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Reply #11 - Sep 9th, 2021 at 4:44pm
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Outstanding work.  Love the color scheme!  I agree re: the wheel skirts. Smiley
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 9th, 2021 at 10:34am
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Another piece of exquisite workmanship!
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Reply #9 - Sep 9th, 2021 at 8:00am
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Today's "state of the onion"....

Note that I've still not gotten to that headrest....

Mounting that upper wing was a challenge this time...for some reason.  Maybe it was that the cabanes are a bit more "splayed" than usual...and I'm certain that a lack of full-sized head-on view added to the uncertainty of it all.  In the end I extended them 3/8" beyond plan elevation...looked right.  Outer wing strut lengths were then determined in-place.  Material used was 3/32" sq stock rounded.

LG to go.  Final P-6E configuration utilized half-open wheel pants...a much more sensible setup from a maintenance point of view.

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Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2021 at 8:49pm
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Don't forget the gun sounds as well!  I tend to do all those when doing the bed glide test prep.
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2021 at 8:20pm
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Thanks, Tom.  Added some markings...lends flavor to my pseudo zooms and barrel-rolls, etc.
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 7th, 2021 at 7:35pm
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Nice...and I've heard your ground loop protection for the pilot was the purpose for the headrest/turtle deck.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 7th, 2021 at 11:01am
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Here's a view of Comet's P-6E radiator...must have a cooling system for that Conqueror engine (forerunner of the famous Allison of WW2).  Of course Comet provides a paper pattern...which has resulted in a 1/32" sheet substitute. 

I'm about to tackle the headrest.  I wonder just how aerodynamic was the headrest contribution?  The windscreen already produced "streamlined parasitic drag."  Maybe the headrest had to do with redirection of the disrupted airflow back toward the empennage....  During WWI many headrests were removed "in the field" to improve rearward vision...or not made a part of the design altogether.  Probably the extreme in headrests of the era was that of the Boeing P-26...very pronounced...served more as a safety device to protect the pilot in the event of a "ground-loop."

Note the tail-wheel has been relocated to the correct position...as opposed to Comet's rudder-post location.

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Reply #4 - Sep 6th, 2021 at 7:20pm
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Craig (SnT member) constructed this same Comet P6E a couple of years ago during one of our cookups...and to his credit, followed Comet's design to the letter.  That was a tough challenge...designed so light that the finished model ends up being quite "flimsy."  That's how Craig described it himself.  The original kit design must have been a challenge as well...considering material cost constraints as well as profit and overhead for a 1936 economy...how to get a kit onto the retailer's shelves and still clear 20% overhead and profit???...all for a dime!

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Reply #3 - Sep 6th, 2021 at 3:47pm
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I think the Aviation WORLD fell in love with that owl scheme, Mike...myself included.  And sooooo...had to go a different direction this time...33rd Pursuit Squadron, 8th Pursuit Group, 1937.  Shortly thereafter they converted to the Curtiss P-40C just in time for the "Big One."

I've already fiddled considerably with Comet's old design...added some...took away not much....  Criteria for my own taste has always been looks...ability to perform is secondary.  Roll Eyes

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Re: Curtiss Army Hawk...P6-E
Reply #2 - Sep 6th, 2021 at 10:56am
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Another great subject Neal.  As a youngster I built the tiny Monogram plastic P-6E - it was the first model I really tried to make well, and took second place in the junior category at the local hobby shop's contest.  Something about the Snow Owl color scheme inspired me, and set me on a path towards craftsmanship instead of just building anything I could get as fast as I could.

There are a number of great plans for this aircraft from the 1930s, with a wide variety of complexity and fidelity.  The Comet plan (as usual) strikes a nice balance between the two.  Are you going to round off the noseblock or stick with Comet's representation?

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Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2021 at 4:19pm
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WoW...the Kerak Aviation Ltd is really stepping up aircraft production!!!  This one looks great so far!  It's been one of my favorites for years!
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Curtiss Army Hawk...P6-E
Sep 3rd, 2021 at 12:58pm
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The Curtiss Hawk was one of those rare designs that became operational with both services...Army and Navy.  I've chosen another Comet plan...this being the 1936 version that utilized a traditional box fuselage.  There's a 1935 version...slightly shorter wingspan...that uses a half-shell fuselage construction technique.  I prefer the box method, myself.  As I usually do...I've somewhat exceeded the original dimer philosophy...just can't resist my desire to tinker with the design.

Oh...I've been busy offline working on this project...fiddling while Rome burns.  Cry

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