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Reply #85 - Apr 8th, 2022 at 1:09pm
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Great work! I was wondering if a paper ring under the silk would help hold the opening in the front of the cowl clean and crisp?  Just a thought.  This is still an amazing project!! Smiley
  

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Reply #84 - Apr 8th, 2022 at 12:21pm
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The cowling parts added only 0.4 grams (painted with acrylic) each to the weight of the noseplugs (2.9-3.0 g). However, the plug I formed them on was just a bit too small, and stretching them over the cardboard backs deformed them. So, I think that I'll take them off and do it in straight styrofoam instead. The nose plugs are 1/16" cardboard. The back plug is 2 layers of "cross-grained" cardboard plus a piece of 1/64" plywood. I also put a piece of 1/64" ply on the front of the nose plug under the picture of the engine, which was printed on regular paper. The Plywood was to stiffen the ends supporting the prop bearing (1/16" aluminum tubing, not yet installed, but the hole has been drilled.)
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Reply #83 - Mar 31st, 2022 at 7:51pm
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Those cowling parts are only going to be about 1/4" deep, and most of the front is cut away. They are not going to be any heavier than the same thing in plastic. I'll let you know how heavy they end up being. I was drawn to this by someone on HPA using the idea on their model. I tried tissue, but it has no wet strength, and rather than struggle with frustration, I went with the tougher 'silkspan'.
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Reply #82 - Mar 31st, 2022 at 4:39pm
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Interesting technique on those cowling.  I'll just wait to see how it comes out.  I may have a new technique for the future! Thanks for all the great construction instruction!  I'm still amazed! Smiley Smiley
  

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Reply #81 - Mar 31st, 2022 at 1:06pm
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I'm smiling at those cowlings, Ian...tried that myself years ago...way back when I was a kid.  My attempt used newspaper and flour paste.  Grin  I doped it...painted it...and wound up with a creation that was very heavy.  I wanted it to be impervious to glo fuel.  Didn't hold up well at all...but then...nothing was glo fuel impervious in those days.

Looks good Ian...I'm certain things will be successful when used for rubber powered flight. Smiley

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Reply #80 - Mar 31st, 2022 at 10:41am
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So, the wings are now up to 31 grams each with the nacelles installed. The nacelle to wing pieces are posterboard strips cut at an "L" angle  for attaching the tissue.  I am making the cowlings out of coffee filter paper formed over a styrofoam blank. I stiffened them up with a couple layers of glue. Of course, most of this will be cut off and discarded.

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Reply #79 - Mar 24th, 2022 at 10:00am
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After some procrastination and lots of thought, I decided to use bamboo for stringers, but to use posterboard for the wing to nacelle joint in order to make tissue attachment easier. I used my razor saw to make slots for the cardboard. The bamboo was split from some skewers with lots of useless mistakes and waste tossed. It reminded me of putting a tree on a lathe to make a single toothpick  Smiley . They are about .8 to 1 mm wide. I am still thinking about what the rear peg holder should look like.
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Reply #78 - Mar 16th, 2022 at 2:09pm
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Nacelles look great.  Completely understand the angled former at wing LE. Smiley
  

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Reply #77 - Mar 16th, 2022 at 11:56am
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I am slowly working on the nacelles. The cardboard 'fuselage' was first glued to the wing, then the former that goes against the LE was glued in place. This one is at an angle to get maximum strength for attachment. The rest are at right angles to the nacelle structure. I also cut out templates for the bottom and top curvature of the finished nacelle, and adjusted the formers to fit in order to make sure it will look right when finished. Wings are about 28 grams each at this point.
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Reply #76 - Mar 9th, 2022 at 7:39pm
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You can tell that they were counting on wing area to make up for the non balsa structure to get a model that at least the kids could get a decent glide from the airplane! 

Looks fantastic!  I have no doubt that yours will fly too!!! Smiley
  

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Reply #75 - Mar 9th, 2022 at 7:09pm
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Fuselage modified to take the wing. Spars trimmed to fit. I did a quick mockup of the parts. 38" W/S.
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Reply #74 - Mar 7th, 2022 at 7:40pm
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Congrats! Only 44 years for us, 45 next Christmas Eve.
I should finish some time tomorrow I hope.
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Reply #73 - Mar 7th, 2022 at 3:47pm
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I'm sure you're familiar with the saying, "Happy wife, happy life!" 
It's very true!!! After 53 years I can testify to it!
  

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Reply #72 - Mar 7th, 2022 at 2:03pm
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I am planning on joining them with butt joints and 1/64 ply shear webs. But the wife says that I have to get the taxes done before I get back to the tedious work.

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Reply #71 - Mar 7th, 2022 at 12:05pm
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Will the spars interlock in the fuselage? You've made amazing progress! Smiley
  

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